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Old 07-24-2020, 11:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since Gemini has only produced one release with this mould in 1/400, would you buy one of these if produced? Curious we haven’t seen another release in over a year. Photo from Wikimedia.
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Doesn't the dash 8-100 look exactly the same externally as the dash 8-200? Ergo, the mould has been used a lot.

Not recently though.

I would like to see some -300 releases in 400 scale
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Old 07-25-2020, 12:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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When they released the U.S. Airways Express DHC-8-200 in the final livery way back in 2010, I was very hopeful we would eventually see a version in the "Snazzy Darth Vader" 90s livery. It's 10 years later now and that hope expired many years ago.....

To answer your question, no, I wouldn't buy a Qantas version as I have no personal connection/experience with Qantas.

Would anyone buy a version in the 1990s dark blue U.S. Airways Express livery?

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Old 07-25-2020, 04:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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There are lots of nice DHC-8s that could be made. Yeah I'd probably get a QF example and also a US Airways 90s scheme too.

It featured in my most under-used moulds blog from way back in 2017 and got in at no 6:

https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/m...1400-scale-pt2

Here were several I would like:
  • Air Atlantic (Canadian Express)
  • Air New Zealand Link (Air Nelson)
  • Ansett New Zealand (multiple schemes)
  • British Airways (Brymon)
  • Brymon Airways
  • City Express
  • DLT
  • Eastern Airways (UK)
  • Eastern Metro Express
  • Hamburg Airlines
  • Horizon Air (multiple schemes)
  • Island Air
  • Jersey European
  • LIAT
  • Northwest Airlink
  • QantasLink
  • Southern Australia Airlines (Australian livery)
  • United Express (multiple schemes)
  • USAir Express (multiple schemes)
  • Tyrolean Airways
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Old 07-25-2020, 05:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yesss please, A Qantas 737-400 hasn't been release yet either.
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Old 07-25-2020, 05:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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There are lots of nice DHC-8s that could be made. Yeah I'd probably get a QF example and also a US Airways 90s scheme too.

It featured in my most under-used moulds blog from way back in 2017 and got in at no 6:

https://www.yesterdaysairlines.com/m...1400-scale-pt2

Here were several I would like:
  • British Airways (Brymon)
  • Brymon Airways
  • Eastern Airways (UK)
  • Jersey European
I would buy all these seen in UK
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Air Zimbabwe (rainbow scheme), Air Niugini.

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Surinam Airways, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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It has props, ergo I'm in.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well here is a Brymon European but it’s in 1/200 scale.
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Northwest Airlink? Yes...please
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Exactly. Like the Air New Zealand Q300
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So how does one effectively prod GJ to dust off the tooling and use it? A large order a la Emirates?

Crowd funding to raise money is a thing. How about a "crowd modeling" site to raise interest in a model to get produced. If it hits a minimum certain number, everyone who "committed" gets their credit card automatically charged. Price per model goes down from there if number of people interested hits additional milestones. This is, of course, for getting models produced with existing moulds. Maybe this already exists?

Getting a new mould produced would be another story.

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  • British Airways (Brymon)
  • Brymon Airways
  • Eastern Airways (UK)
  • Jersey European
I would buy all these seen in UK

Add Hamburg Airlines and Tyrolean Airways for me.
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So how does one effectively prod GJ to dust off the tooling and use it? A large order a la Emirates?

Crowd funding to raise money is a thing. How about a "crowd modeling" site to raise interest in a model to get produced. If it hits a minimum certain number, everyone who "committed" gets their credit card automatically charged. Price per model goes down from there if number of people interested hits additional milestones. This is, of course, for getting models produced with existing moulds. Maybe this already exists?

Getting a new mould produced would be another story.

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in one of those yesterdays airliners today articles the author said it can cost anywhere from 30-60k to produce a new mould. Obviously we all wouldn't be the only ones buying them but idk if enough people would crowdfund something like that
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That seems a tad high for mould development cost. I’ve heard between $12-15K for developing a new one.
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Yeah, I would buy a QANTAS one for sure. And an Ansett & Air New Zealand if they were released one day too. Great liveries.
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Old 07-26-2020, 02:20 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Given how quickly the GJ Q400 sold out and how rare it is now (check this price out!)
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gemini-J...QAAOSw4A5YoEC6
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gemini-J...AAAOSw-XRe8Crc

You'd think GJ would get it through their heads that the sales will most definitely be the same for a Q-link Q200, all other dash 8's seem to sell well.
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Not a Qantas one - but I'd be very open to some British / Euro airlines..
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I would like one of these.
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Old 07-26-2020, 03:05 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That seems a tad high for mould development cost. I’ve heard between $12-15K for developing a new one.
New mould development is a different animal. Existing moulds! The manufacturers already have them and own them. How do we get them to use them?

How about this? GJ, for example, adds a new feature to their website that requires anyone interested to create an account that also requires registering a credit card. In this section of their site, "members" can propose models using existing moulds GJ has. GJ looks at each proposal and determines if it would be possible or not. Impossible ones get disapproved (i.e. Cathay Pacific will absolutely not let us make their models). If it's even remotely possible, GJ determines the minimum run and price (factoring royalties, middlemen retailer's cut etc.), and puts it out in an area of the site where "members' can view a list of proposed possible models and commit to getting a desired quantity. If only 10 people are committed to a model that requires a minimum run of 150, it never gets made and people can see for themselves how much a model they think would sell like hotcakes would actually sell. Commitments with actual money don't lie.

Once enough members commit to a model, GJ is commissioned to produce the model. Less whining by people about the monthly releases GJ puts out that no one cares about and more models that people want. We hear about how Delta, Emirates, etc. help GJ keep paying the bills with the large orders. Here's another way for the small guy to do exactly that. And it puts a new meaning to "Made for Collectors...By Collectors".

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