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Old 07-28-2019, 11:39 PM   #1
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Here's my HM F/A-18E custom fully loaded out for air superiority

12x AIM-120 AMRAAM and 2x AIM-9X

That will put some fear into any mig or sukhoi ...
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That's proper fangs out! I'm wondering if this full load out was anything similar in weight to the Tomcat with 4-6 Phoenix's? At a guess, I think the latter would still be heavier!
Very impressive load out for the SuperBug however and does look like it means business!
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That's proper fangs out! I'm wondering if this full load out was anything similar in weight to the Tomcat with 4-6 Phoenix's? At a guess, I think the latter would still be heavier!
Very impressive load out for the SuperBug however and does look like it means business!
12x AMRAAM = 4080 lb
2x AIM-9x = 400lb

6x AIM-54= 6000lb
2x AIM-9L= 400lb

So this loadout on the superbug is much better. and with the aim-120d, I would dare to say the actual hit probability and reliability and capability is probably better than the aim-54

superbug bringback load is 9000 lb according to being site: https://www.boeing.com/defense/fa-18-super-hornet/

so it can bring back this whole load if needed unlike the tomcat where they have to eject 2 of the aim-54 to land.

Cats does beat superbug a little in combat radius... then again if you have inflight refuel, that's less of an issue anyway

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I've seen max. 10 AMRAAM missiles on the older Hornets with two sidewinder missiles on the wing tips but i think this configuration is done more for Combat exercises.. i doubt this load of so many AMRAAM missiles is used in real Combat situations..
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well, given that a lot of the countries that buys a lot of the cheaper older mig that are now somewhat obsolete but you still do need at least one missile to kill one plane so a loadout like this would be still be needed to go against a numerically superior force even if their quality is not good.


I want to do the F-35 in beast mode, but i would need HM to make multi aam weapon pylons for f-35. if they can get 3 amraam into each internal bay then you would only need dual missile pylons for the wings, if you can only do 2 amraam in each internal bay, you would need to have at least 2 triple missile pylons for each wing.


I think there's somewhere a note about a proposed F-15 missile boat carry more than 2 dozen missiles:


https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...ing-new-f-15x/



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I've seen max. 10 AMRAAM missiles on the older Hornets with two sidewinder missiles on the wing tips but i think this configuration is done more for Combat exercises.. i doubt this load of so many AMRAAM missiles is used in real Combat situations..
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That will put some fear into any mig or sukhoi
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Not likely

14 vs 12 missiles. The su-30's probably has significantly bigger RCS though.

i guess migs is out of running? migs used to be synonymous with russia AF, i guess it's now all sukhoi....
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As Surinam pointed out, it's more like 12 vs 12 in reality so I call it even but neither the Flanker or Hornet would ever be maxed out in a combat situation anyway.

Yeah the MiG-29 is on par with the F-16 but with the MiG-35, the Viper loses out, 8 vs 6, you could argue the inner most pylons which typically stores the external tank could be the 7th and 8th missiles but again it's not common or ever configured that way and certainly not for combat.

As for the model, defo looks cool armed to the teeth.
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Perhaps HM should work on a F-18XT model that will include weapons pods like these increasing the loadout even more

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https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.w...-super-hornet/




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12x AMRAAM = 4080 lb
2x AIM-9x = 400lb

6x AIM-54= 6000lb
2x AIM-9L= 400lb

So this loadout on the superbug is much better. and with the aim-120d, I would dare to say the actual hit probability and reliability and capability is probably better than the aim-54

superbug bringback load is 9000 lb according to being site: https://www.boeing.com/defense/fa-18-super-hornet/

so it can bring back this whole load if needed unlike the tomcat where they have to eject 2 of the aim-54 to land.

Cats does beat superbug a little in combat radius... then again if you have inflight refuel, that's less of an issue anyway
Cool,thanks for those interesting facts! It's great to see these comparisons!
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Here's my HM F/A-18E custom fully loaded out for air superiority

12x AIM-120 AMRAAM and 2x AIM-9X

That will put some fear into any mig or sukhoi ...
Looking at this model and some of the Witty versions,I always looked at the 'outward' angle the missile pylons seemed to have and thought it odd. But then again,I hadn't done much research or reading up on the Super Hornet so I just though it was a more effective innovation for launching? However..looking at the pics below with the max load out its obvious that they are meant to be straight like every other fighter and this is obviously a model manufacturers gaff ( **** up!). What's your opinion guys?
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Here's my HM F/A-18E custom fully loaded out for air superiority

12x AIM-120 AMRAAM and 2x AIM-9X



That will put some fear into any mig or sukhoi ...


Reminds me fully loaded out Lindemann :







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Looking at this model and some of the Witty versions,I always looked at the 'outward' angle the missile pylons seemed to have and thought it odd. But then again,I hadn't done much research or reading up on the Super Hornet so I just though it was a more effective innovation for launching? However..looking at the pics below with the max load out its obvious that they are meant to be straight like every other fighter and this is obviously a model manufacturers gaff ( **** up!). What's your opinion guys?
Weapon clearance. The Super Bug crams two more pylons onto the wing over the Legacy Hornet, in order to meet weapon clearance requirements for safe release, they had to be canted away from the aircraft.
Source: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=141815

You can also google F-18 Super Hornet pylon angling for more info.

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Thank you for that explanation. i thought it was a manufacturer defect regarding the angled pylons too.

However it still bothers me that there is asymmetric angling of the innermost starboard pylon compared to the innermost port one, Anyone else with HM super hornet should be able to also verify this.

I also have a dragon superhornet. i will maybe check this out also...
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Thank you for that explanation. i thought it was a manufacturer defect regarding the angled pylons too.

However it still bothers me that there is asymmetric angling of the innermost starboard pylon compared to the innermost port one, Anyone else with HM super hornet should be able to also verify this.

I also have a dragon superhornet. i will maybe check this out also...
Somewhere there is a thread here discussing the pylon angles.....

The word is actually "canted" for the word angle..... Google it .... There is info about it....



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Here ya go.....

..."Why are the pylons on Super Hornet canted outward?"

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-the-py...canted-outward

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I've always been a fan of the original F/A-18 Hornet. Love those rounded intake inlets. The Super Hornet's square shaped ducts look hideous.

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..."Why are the pylons on Super Hornet canted outward?"

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-the-py...canted-outward

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I am still concerned that there's a manufacturer defect on our HM superhornet. Is it me or can someone else also verify that the innermost starboard pylon is more canted or angled outward compared to the innermost port pylon on our HM superhornet? shouldn't they be symmetrically canted? I didn't read anything about asymmetrically canted pylon on the real plane
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Thanks for that info Ladia. That's cleared it up now!




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Weapon clearance. The Super Bug crams two more pylons onto the wing over the Legacy Hornet, in order to meet weapon clearance requirements for safe release, they had to be canted away from the aircraft.
Source: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=141815

You can also google F-18 Super Hornet pylon angling for more info.
Thanks for that info Ladia. That's cleared it up!
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Wildpig thanks for sharing too!
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Comparison between HM, FOV, and Dragon superhornet

only HM has the canted pylons. HM and Dragon have serrated main gear bay and door edge. Dragon and FOV have all moving horizontal stabs

Dragon has AMRAAM on wingtips which is unrealistic as this will break the wing folding mechanism real fast in real life which is why pretty much no hornet ever carry amraam on wingtips even though the wingtip launchers on superbug can handle them. I suppose for those countries that use superhornet as land based only without using the folding wings then you can use amraam on wingtips?

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It's actually for weapons separation, from the aircraft, not for weapons spacing from each other. The spacing is the same regardless of angle. However the new wing of the Super Bug was a bit 'stickier', so bombs missiles were not separating away from the aircraft as quickly as desired once fired, therefore the pylons were canted outward to give an added aerodynamic push away from the aircraft.


Not good to have 2,000 lbs of live, armed high explosive flying in very close formation with the aircraft, you want to to go AWAY once released.

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