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Old 10-26-2019, 11:06 AM   #1
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Just when you think things in the plane couldn't get any stranger. This happens.

Interesting to see the outcome of this lawsuit by the flight attendant. Would like to hear the defense attorney discredit the photo the FA took of the pilot in the bathroom that was being streamed to the pilot's IPad. Good luck with that. Her photo would capture the date/time it was took, and the cockpit voice recorder would indicate what time the pilot left the flight deck to take a whiz or dump. T7


Southwest Airlines flight attendant says pilots streamed airplane bathroom video to cockpit


https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ms/2460937001/

A Phoenix-based Southwest Airlines flight attendant has sued the airline, accusing the carrier of retaliation after she reported two pilots for livestreaming video from the lavatory to an iPad in the cockpit on one of her flights.

A suit filed in federal court for the District of Arizona alleges that on Feb. 27, 2017, Renee Steinaker was working as a flight attendant on Flight 1088 between Pittsburgh and Phoenix.

The suit alleges that 2½ hours into the flight, the pilot, Capt. Terry Graham, asked Steinaker to come to the cockpit so that he could leave to use the restroom. Southwest Airlines policy requires two crew members in the cockpit at all times, so Steinaker was asked to staff the cockpit with co-pilot Ryan Russell in Graham's absence.

The suit states that when Steinaker entered the cockpit, she spotted an iPad mounted to the windshield to the left of the captain’s seat. On it, she reportedly could see a live stream of what appeared to be Graham in the bathroom.

The filing states that Russell looked panicked and told her the cameras were a new top-secret security measure that had been installed in all Southwest Airlines planes, which Steinaker did not believe to be true.

"They led her to believe that she and others had been filmed — had been videotaped if you will — while they were using the lavatory. It's really hard to imagine a more outrageous kind of conduct," aviation attorney Ronald L.M. Goldman, who is representing Steinaker, told the USA TODAY network.

According to the court filing, Steinaker took a photograph of the iPad with her cellphone to document the incident.

Upon landing, the pilots violated airline protocol and "disembarked, leaving the aircraft unattended by piloting staff," Steinaker alleges in the suit. It also claims that Graham "left a loaded firearm unattended in the cockpit, a violation of FAA regulations."

Steinaker and other crew members reported the incident to the airline. The suit claims the pilots were allowed to proceed to their next flight and they continue to fly with the airline today.


Steinaker claims she was told not to talk to anybody about the incident and was warned that "if this got out, if this went public, no one, I mean no one, would ever fly our airline again."

Goldman also represents Steinaker's husband David, also a Southwest flight attendant.

The suit alleges the Steinakers have faced retaliation through stalking, being monitored by managers in a "threatening and bizarre manner" and being subjected to an increased number of performance audits.

"In my view, Southwest Airlines has treated this as 'how dare they report it' rather than 'thank you for letting us know," Goldman said.

Southwest Airlines responds
In an emailed statement to the Arizona Republic, part of the USA TODAY Network, a representative for Southwest Airlines said:

"The safety and security of our employees and customers is Southwest’s uncompromising priority. As such, Southwest does not place cameras in the lavatories of our aircraft. At this time, we have no other comment on the pending litigation."

We reached out to the attorney representing the two pilots named in the suit by email and phone. We will update this story when we receive a response.

In court, attorneys for the pilots have denied that the two engaged in livestreaming the lavatory. Court filings also deny that the two violated any airline policy or protocol.

To Goldman, the incident indicates both privacy and safety concerns.

"In my opinion as an aviation lawyer with many years of experience, this does compromise the safety of flight and the safety of passengers, not even to mention for the potential of violating the privacy of all of the passengers as well as the crew," Goldman said.
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Old 10-26-2019, 05:04 PM   #2
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Whistleblower protection is a Federal rule. There should be absolutely no retaliation from SWA or anyone else.
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Whistleblower protection is a Federal rule. There should be absolutely no retaliation from SWA or anyone else.
Unfortunately, once a whistleblower comes forward there is no going back and their lives are never the same with their employer, co-workers, family, etc.

Check out this response from SWA:

Southwest Airlines responds
In an emailed statement to The Arizona Republic, a representative for Southwest Airlines said:

"The safety and security of our employees and customers is Southwest’s uncompromising priority. As such, Southwest does not place cameras in the lavatories of our aircraft. At this time, we have no other comment on the pending litigation."

On Saturday afternoon, a spokeswoman for Southwest Airlines sent the Arizona Republic an additional email, stating:

"Southwest will vigorously defend the lawsuit. When the incident happened two years ago, we investigated the allegations and addressed the situation with the crew involved. We can confirm from our investigation that there was never a camera in the lavatory; the incident was an inappropriate attempt at humor which the company did not condone."

We asked for clarification about why the airline believes it was a bad attempt at humor, how it knows there was no camera and whether the pilots faced discipline.

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ded: "At this time, we have no other comment on the pending litigation."

I am puzzled by the response from SWA. First they state they found no camera, but then add it was a bad joke on the pilot's part? So the pilot must have recorded the video earlier of himself in the Lav with a camera and downloaded the vid to his iPad, and as a joke with the co-pilot requested that the FA come to the cockpit while he takes a potty break. With this bad joke reply, there was a camera that was in the Lav for the single purpose of the joke/prank from the pilot. SWA should revise their offiical respone to 'a camera was only used 1 time by the pilot for the bad joke; which did not go over well with the FA'.
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So true re whistle blowers! Somehow the name in most cases gets out and then the person is ruined!

Didn't know Southwest had SCAT PACKS like Mopar!
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I am puzzled by the response from SWA. First they state they found no camera, but then add it was a bad joke on the pilot's part? So the pilot must have recorded the video earlier of himself in the Lav with a camera and downloaded the vid to his iPad, and as a joke with the co-pilot requested that the FA come to the cockpit while he takes a potty break. With this bad joke reply, there was a camera that was in the Lav for the single purpose of the joke/prank from the pilot. SWA should revise their offiical respone to 'a camera was only used 1 time by the pilot for the bad joke; which did not go over well with the FA'.
I had no problem understanding SWA's statement. Clearly, they are saying there was no hidden camera found to be installed in the lav, which is what the initial complaint was. If you're going to parse things out so literally, as you have, then every time someone uses the lav, and happens to have their phone with them, there is a camera in the lav.

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I had no problem understanding SWA's statement. Clearly, they are saying there was no hidden camera found to be installed in the lav, which is what the initial complaint was. If you're going to parse things out so literally, as you have, then every time someone uses the lav, and happens to have their phone with them, there is a camera in the lav.
I think after a few days of this being out, a couple of things are a bit puzzling:

1. Why did it take 2 years for this to come out now? Guessing, the FA was not pleased with SWA's response to her grievance.

2. I now really think it was a prank that missed it's mark with the FA. I agree with SWA that there was no actual camera in the LAV. However, if it was a prank that both pilots were in on; why didn't they come clean in the cockpit with her? Instead, they let her go back into the main cabin without enlightening her about the prank as if nothing had happened. As a result, things snow-balled from there when the FA initiated the complaint.

3. Guessing the 2 pilots informed HR that it was only a prank on their part, after the FA filed the complaint. HR eventually told the FA about the prank gone wrong, and HR hoped that would be the end of it. HR was wrong, and that's where we are today with this story.

Will see what comes out of this mess, but life with SWA has certainly taken a a 180 degree turn for her and the hubby.
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