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Old 11-30-2019, 07:55 PM   #1
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As a beginning collector i have a lot of questions:

-what are the most usual scales in the "bigger" models? 1:72, 1:100, 1:144; 1:150,...?
I see a lot of different scales.. the most scales in "normal" models are 1:200, 1:400 and 1:500?

-is resin the best quality in scale models?

-what are the best manufacturers, the one's i have already are Pacmin, Lupo Models en LHS models. Wich one's are the best brands?

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Old 11-30-2019, 09:23 PM   #2
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It all depends on your style and what you really want out of this hobby.


For me when I started last year, I want heavy models that depict the planes in which I am buying. I didn't want a small plastic model that looked like it came from Walmart. But, with that criteria comes a price. I went with Gemini jets, Inflight, and JC Wings 1/200 scale. Phenomenal products but each one you buy is a $100 bill, sometimes two or three depending on the model you want.


At this point, I'm pretty much over this hobby. I am getting ready to put up half-ish of my collection for sale. I'd rather do other things with whatever money I can get out of them. I will tell you his hobby is addicting, in a fantastic way. Once you get your hands on your first diecast model, you'll love it.


I don't know if this helps at all but if you have any other questions or concerns of getting into this hobby I'll do my best to help you. Others on here have waaaayy more money and time invested in this hobby than I do and are super easy to talk to or ask questions. Best of luck and happy collecting!
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:53 AM   #3
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Thanks for your personal info!

What's interesting is that i also don't want to buy the plastic models, and i like the bigger scale models a lot.
But, the small one's are mostly diecast and then they're becoming interesting again
Strange thing, the little scale models have wheels, is there a specific reason for that?
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When I first started collecting my biggest mistake was I bought any model I could find. My collecting lacked focus. I would ask yourself this question. What would my ultimate dream collection look like? Think about that for awhile and establish what you really want. Then start collecting with that goal and focus. After I figured that out, I actually made a list of models I wanted and by gosh it's nearly complete after 20 years. Nothing is set in stone and likely as time progresses and you learn more about your hobby, that focus will evolve until you just know you're on target.

Some people focus on one type of airplane. Others focus on Inflight200, others on vintage models. My focus is on airplanes I remember back in the day when I worked at the airport. I used to watch the airlines taxi by, the corporate or military aircraft I used to service when I worked on the ramp at an FBO. The airliners I used to fly on when I romanticized flying. I look for older authentic non restored models. Many of my models have really interesting stories and backgrounds and are far from perfect, condition wise. To me that makes them more interesting. Others take poor condition models like some of mine and and spend countless hours repairing and restoring them, turning them into works of art. Everyone is different.

Be patient the hobby is constantly changing. Collectors decide to sell off collections, estates sell holly grail models with amazing histories, museums go bankrupt. Network here with other collectors. Let people know if you find something. Other collectors will see your model and offer to trade one which fits your collection better. Buy the best quality you can afford. A few really good models are much better than a room full of not so good models. Good stuff very seldom drops in value.
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I’ve spent forty five years collecting these large scale airliner models, and I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. During my twenty six years in the airline industry I made connections with individuals, some of whom were to become good friends, who on finding out of my interest in these models sourced many for me. I’ve also found friends on this forum who’ve also helped me acquire certain models, I’d like to think I’ve helped some of them too if only with advice. Initially I had no overall collecting theme but after a few years I began to ‘zero in’ on types and airlines relevant to me and my career.

Over time I began to build collections of my favourite airlines, Aeroflot, Interflug, JAT, Finnair, Iraqi Airways, Royal Jordanian, and of course Egyptair. I’ve also accumulated some 1/48 Gulfstreams. I rarely collected anything smaller than 1/100, and in fact I recently sold off the last of my 1/200 diecast airliners. I’ve got models by Pacmin, Space, Atlantic and Lupa, as well as a few Skymarks Supreme models, and some models made in Russia. Ref your comment about landing gear, It’s not common to find landing gear on the larger models such as those by Pacmin, Space, Lupa etc. My collection is a mix of fibreglass, plastic, resin, and some older models I have are made of wood. I finally stopped collecting around six months ago, time to let others ‘get to the trough’

This is a great hobby, though often a pricey one. If I had my time over again, would I collect model airliners a second time? Yes, in a flash. Happy collecting!



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Old 12-01-2019, 02:28 PM   #6
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When I first started collecting my biggest mistake was I bought any model I could find. My collecting lacked focus. I would ask yourself this question. What would my ultimate dream collection look like? Think about that for awhile and establish what you really want. Then start collecting with that goal and focus. After I figured that out, I actually made a list of models I wanted and by gosh it's nearly complete after 20 years. Nothing is set in stone and likely as time progresses and you learn more about your hobby, that focus will evolve until you just know you're on target.

Some people focus on one type of airplane. Others focus on Inflight200, others on vintage models. My focus is on airplanes I remember back in the day when I worked at the airport. I used to watch the airlines taxi by, the corporate or military aircraft I used to service when I worked on the ramp at an FBO. The airliners I used to fly on when I romanticized flying. I look for older authentic non restored models. Many of my models have really interesting stories and backgrounds and are far from perfect, condition wise. To me that makes them more interesting. Others take poor condition models like some of mine and and spend countless hours repairing and restoring them, turning them into works of art. Everyone is different.

Be patient the hobby is constantly changing. Collectors decide to sell off collections, estates sell holly grail models with amazing histories, museums go bankrupt. Network here with other collectors. Let people know if you find something. Other collectors will see your model and offer to trade one which fits your collection better. Buy the best quality you can afford. A few really good models are much better than a room full of not so good models. Good stuff very seldom drops in value.

Very interesting to read your point of view! Thanks for that!
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I’ve spent forty five years collecting these large scale airliner models, and I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. During my twenty six years in the airline industry I made connections with individuals, some of whom were to become good friends, who on finding out of my interest in these models sourced many for me. I’ve also found friends on this forum who’ve also helped me acquire certain models, I’d like to think I’ve helped some of them too if only with advice. Initially I had no overall collecting theme but after a few years I began to ‘zero in’ on types and airlines relevant to me and my career.

Over time I began to build collections of my favourite airlines, Aeroflot, Interflug, JAT, Finnair, Iraqi Airways, Royal Jordanian, and of course Egyptair. I’ve also accumulated some 1/48 Gulfstreams. I rarely collected anything smaller than 1/100, and in fact I recently sold off the last of my 1/200 diecast airliners. I’ve got models by Pacmin, Space, Atlantic and Lupa, as well as a few Skymarks Supreme models, and some models made in Russia. Ref your comment about landing gear, It’s not common to find landing gear on the larger models such as those by Pacmin, Space, Lupa etc. My collection is a mix of fibreglass, plastic, resin, and some older models I have are made of wood. I finally stopped collecting around six months ago, time to let others ‘get to the trough’

This is a great hobby, though often a pricey one. If I had my time over again, would I collect model airliners a second time? Yes, in a flash. Happy collecting!



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Very interesting, and thanks for answering the question about the wheels
Also thanks for the the name's Space and Atlantic, didn't know them..

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Searching for the official website's of Space and Atlantic, anyone?
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Searching for the official website's of Space and Atlantic, anyone?
Its actually SPACE MODELS (no longer in business) and ATLANTIC MODELS who still are I believe.


this is a good source of used models. all sizes various makes.


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Its actually SPACE MODELS (no longer in business) and ATLANTIC MODELS who still are I believe.
Thanks, found Atlantic models!
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Oops, almost forgot Graphideco, the main supplier to Airbus, they make some very nice models indeed. See Pinto’s latest post showing his wonderful Graphideco A380 models.

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Hi Procar,

You might also take a look at Executive Series Display Model as well:

https://www.airplaneshop.com/brands/executive-series

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You might also take a look at Executive Series Display Model as well:

https://www.airplaneshop.com/brands/executive-series

Hope that this info helps.

Thanks, nice models, will keep an eye on this brand
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Do your best to stay with a plan. Aircraft type, airline(s), region of globe, scale. When I started some 20 years ago, very few choices. Now, many choices. Nothing wrong with a little of each. One thing, unless money is not an issue, you will need to say no quite often. Welcome to our hobby.
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Do your best to stay with a plan. Aircraft type, airline(s), region of globe, scale. When I started some 20 years ago, very few choices. Now, many choices. Nothing wrong with a little of each. One thing, unless money is not an issue, you will need to say no quite often. Welcome to our hobby.
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