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Old 01-21-2019, 03:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is the second time in 6 months that I get a model back, that I had sold to a friend. No better feeling!.
Now, I will let you guess who(m) the maker is. It is in 1:50th and I believe only 20 were ever made. This is number 20. I have seen only 2 others and don't know where the other 17 are.
I have the stand but it is coming later.


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Old 01-21-2019, 04:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Gary Field!
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No! This is not a reproduction model but a totally original and very rare model. This company only made DC-8's and DC-9's


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Thats a gorgeous model Al. I have no idea who the maker is. I always love seeing your pictures. I'm always a bit snoopy checking everything in the background around your shop. I love your Tudor!
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No idea but that's a beautiful model, love the baby -9
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi, I would say Nifty model of Finland! Do I win the model...? !
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I am not an expert on these large metal models but over the years I have seen this DC-9 as well as several others just like it at shows and they are always listed or sold as Douglas Factory Models. Is it possible that they were made by Douglas themselves??
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I have to admit that DFM was my first thought. I don’t know much about these metal models, it’s a very nice one though.

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Old 01-22-2019, 07:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thrust me guys, NIFTY MODELS, 100% sure, but let's Al confirm the answer!

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I'm not sure they are the manufacturer..perhaps had them made for Finnair as others are circulating that are not Finnair..
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes!! David is right.
The company is Nifty of the town of Pori Finland. They are or were a gun making company. Might still be active, I don't know. I checked Pori for any factory of that name and nothing comes up. Anyway, in the 60's, they made a few DC-9's and DC-8's (I have a Nifty DC-8 blank) in FINNAIR livery. I hear the reason was "Just because they could" :-) True story.


Now, I know Anthony Lawler has one, although not in this good a shape and there is one in the Netherlands. I don't know about the others.


The rumor goes that they only made 20. Mine is serial 20.


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Then I stand corrected, however there are dozens of similar DC-9s floating around exactly like that one in other airline markings manufactured by Douglas Models...

http://www.aircraftdisplaymodels.com...+the+Photos%21

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It is quite the same story with Nucci Funderia of Roma, who produce some nice metal
models between the mid 50's to the mid 60's. They produce DC7, DC8 as well as Caravelle for Alitalia. But I think far more models were produce than the low Nifty production.
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Then I stand corrected, however there are dozens of similar DC-9s floating around exactly like that one in other airline markings manufactured by Douglas Models...

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I don't quite get your post. Of course I know that other companies have made DC-9's. I have original DFM dc-9's, Fermo's, Pacmin's etc in my collection. The point of my post was historical. Something called knowledge. Did you know about NIFTY before this? If you didn't and now you do, then mission accomplished. This is what a FORUM is all about. BTW, there are none exactly as this model. NIFTY's are a special breed. That would be like saying that Pacmin DC-9's are exactly like Douglas Factory DC-9. Or FERMO DC-9's are exactly like Douglas Factory Model DC-9's.....etc...........


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Whoa Al slow down... I guess I hit a sour note with you. I know nothing about Nifty models. I googled them and absolutely nothing comes up. I was only implying that maybe they bought blanks from Douglas Models and as a favor had them made for Finnair since it is their home country airline. The cost to cast that mold only to make 20 models seems nuts that's all and it looked just like a DM model to me....I cede! I give up! I lose...Is that better??:
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Whoa Al slow down... I guess I hit a sour note with you. I know nothing about Nifty models. I googled them and absolutely nothing comes up. I was only implying that maybe they bought blanks from Douglas Models and as a favor had them made for Finnair since it is their home country airline. The cost to cast that mold only to make 20 models seems nuts that's all and it looked just like a DM model to me....I cede! I give up! I lose...Is that better??:
Damn, Russ. You lit his fuse.
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Damn, Russ. You lit his fuse.
its all good, and yes I will take you up on the drink offer in Atlanta but it has to be a coke!
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If that is the original stand they could have done a lot better! Wow!
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If that is the original stand they could have done a lot better! Wow!


I love that stand. The airplane is almost floating in the air. And very steady with a perfect center of gravity. Plus it is welded stainless. No distractions. Let the model speak for itself and not the stand.
I guess, different taste!


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A beautiful historic piece Al and thanks for sharing.
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Damn, Russ. You lit his fuse.


Russ didn't light any fuses. Russ is a fine collector and I respect him. This is a discussion place. A place to share and learn. Collecting and restoring for me it isn't about putting models on a shelf. It is about history. It is about rare pieces. It is about analyzing a model from all sides and see its good and its bad, and its charm. Its about painting a model correctly without having the cabin windows way out of place etc... My library is worth more than my models. I get great joy out of learning. I am 70 and been at this since I was 8.
I am not about buying a model for $500 and try to get $4000 out of it. I usually sell my stuff for less than I paid. The reasoning for this is that if I enjoyed it for 8 years, that is my profit.
I digress :-) As for NIFTY, it is part of the modelling history. Some of you will say, way after I'm gone, "Oh yea! I remember Al having one of those" It is about knowledge.
So, no fuse lit here. I speak my mind and I'm too old to care whom I may or may not offend. And actually, when I see a piece of crap model posted on here, from now on, you will hear about it. No more sanitizing to keep everyone happy. So strap yourself in


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Russ didn't light any fuses. Russ is a fine collector and I respect him. This is a discussion place. A place to share and learn. Collecting and restoring for me it isn't about putting models on a shelf. It is about history. It is about rare pieces. It is about analyzing a model from all sides and see its good and its bad, and its charm. Its about painting a model correctly without having the cabin windows way out of place etc... My library is worth more than my models. I get great joy out of learning. I am 70 and been at this since I was 8.
I am not about buying a model for $500 and try to get $4000 out of it. I usually sell my stuff for less than I paid. The reasoning for this is that if I enjoyed it for 8 years, that is my profit.
I digress :-) As for NIFTY, it is part of the modelling history. Some of you will say, way after I'm gone, "Oh yea! I remember Al having one of those" It is about knowledge.
So, no fuse lit here. I speak my mind and I'm too old to care whom I may or may not offend. And actually, when I see a piece of crap model posted on here, from now on, you will hear about it. No more sanitizing to keep everyone happy. So strap yourself in


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Glad I’m all out of crap models to post

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The fun part of this hobby is learning from everyone. I have learned a great deal from you Al and I enjoy your models. You are a master and head & shoulders above some of us here. But I have also learned from some of the "fools" you choose not to suffer. I do understand your pain. I personally like seeing every model. The good, the bad, the spectacular and the been there and done that already examples. You know the ones where you want to be careful not to get your eye lashes caught in the ceiling fan.

Al may I kindly ask you to remember most of us here do not have the experience you do. It would be sad to dampen someones excitement and enthusiasm when they proudly post their new model on here for everyone to see. Yes you might personally think it's crap because you are so far beyond that level- but to the newbie person (me) who feels that excitement and pride it would be devastating to receive a beating from someone you hold in high regard and respect. Hey I'm all for fixing stupid and stopping arrogance in it's place. I already know from experience that your a witty man with the ability to make me smile at you after you just told me to "sex & travel".

I know there are some folks here who feel obligated to post nice comments about every model. And thats OK. For me it's ok if nobody posts too. Hearing the crickets when nobody posts sends a very loud message to me about my post and perhaps my model.

Al I hope things are great for you and your having a fun day. Keep :-) lol..........

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Wow I don't think that anyone will ever receive a beating from Al! Should Al decide to criticize a model he will have a valid reason for doing so. The owner of the model should consider themselves lucky to have received some good constructive criticism. At this early stage in my modelling adventure I need all the criticism I can get. My ongoing experience with decals on the Canadian North model would be a good example. I can't thank Al enough for his input on the matter, not forgetting Neil and Pierre. People should expect criticism when they put a model on for viewing and take the lessons learned on to their next project. Also nobody should feel obligated to post a positive comment if they don't really mean it. In doing so they are doing that modeller a great disservice. Personally I have learned a lot from Al along the way and he knows that I am grateful and as I always say to Al lets have some fun along the way.
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Wow I don't think that anyone will ever receive a beating from Al! Should Al decide to criticize a model he will have a valid reason for doing so. The owner of the model should consider themselves lucky to have received some good constructive criticism. At this early stage in my modelling adventure I need all the criticism I can get. My ongoing experience with decals on the Canadian North model would be a good example. I can't thank Al enough for his input on the matter, not forgetting Neil and Pierre. People should expect criticism when they put a model on for viewing and take the lessons learned on to their next project. Also nobody should feel obligated to post a positive comment if they don't really mean it. In doing so they are doing that modeller a great disservice. Personally I have learned a lot from Al along the way and he knows that I am grateful and as I always say to Al lets have some fun along the way.

Thanks for the kind words Anthony. After reading what Skythings wrote (I can read in between the attempt at being kind) I decided to never come back here again, except for this last post. It is time for me to move on. I have started a Facebook page "Airplane model collectors and restorers" (It is a closed group, so you need to ask to join. Only way to keep non hobbyist, and jerks out). Already going real good. The description of the group is: ""This group is for Airplane model collectors and restorers. I want it to be a place where we can comment on a model, good or bad, as long as it is courteous, respectful and honest. No hurt feelings! Just honest opinions. A place to show your last projects or your last rare find. A place to show your models. No politics, please. Example would be " I think the passenger windows on this model are too low etc....""A place where you can ask opinions on the pricing of a model listed somewhere like Ebay, from a lot of experts. I have been collecting and restoring for 3 or more decades. I have mentors and well known collectors from around the World that will be joining this group."""

Just time to move on. I will not let anyone on that group that are in it for money (buying a model for 700 and selling for $4000 a few weeks later. I have gone sour in the hobby after someone took advantage of me a couple years ago. He knows who is. He can have sex and travel like Skythings would say. I just can't handle the patronizing that is going on in here. Anyway, good luck everyone. Whatever posts comes after this one, will not be read by me. So save your fingers and thoughts for another day.


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@ Al.
what a shame,,,,
Pls. rethink your decision.

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