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Old 10-09-2015, 01:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just added a "new" 1/50 model to my growing American Airlines collection. Its a very rare Airbus A300 and it looks very accurate. It does not have a model makers label but i'm guessing it may be a westway based on the hollow fiberglass wings with no flap etchings. The major flaws include missing engines and a hole drilled into the nose.

The question I have for you fellow collectors is that in your opinions, do you think it would be wise to just fix and touch up the irritating hole on the nose and just leave the rest of the model as is, or should i send it out and get new engines mounted as well? Paint and varnish looks very good and may only need a few touchups to a few chips at the wing tips and roots. Someone also painted the bottoms of the wings skyblue for reasons of their own but the paint is removable with an alcohol wipe.
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That's a lovely model, and I'm sure very rare too. If it was mine, I'd obtain a pair of engines for it, and fix the nose up myself. It shouldn't be too difficult a job, but not all of us are into doing that kind of thing. I think the rest of the model is in very good condition, and IMO needs nothing more doing to it. Is there the original paint underneath that blue paint? If not, then I'd maybe send the wings out for attention, and have the engines fixed up at the same time. Just my five cents worth. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and keep us posted!

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Old 10-09-2015, 04:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's a lovely model, and I'm sure very rare too. If it was mine, I'd obtain a pair of engines for it, and fix the nose up myself. It shouldn't be too difficult a job, but not all of us are into doing that kind of thing. I think the rest of the model is in very good condition, and IMO needs nothing more doing to it. Is there the original paint underneath that blue paint? If not, then I'd maybe send the wings out for attention, and have the engines fixed up at the same time. Just my five cents worth. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and keep us posted!

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Neil, thanks for the feedback! Yes there is original paint under the blue and luckily the overpaint did not adhere well to the original gloss and so it can be taken off either by washing or a more risky process of scraping little by little with a fingernail as it just pries off without damaging the gloss coat underneath.

I just may putty and touch up the nose myself but as for the engines i might send it out to Atlantic.

I just wasn't sure if it should remain original (with missing engines) or if it is ok to add aftermarket parts and make it "unoriginal".
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IMO, I think it would be quite ok to get some replacement engines sorted for this one, it's in such good overall condition, it would be a shame not to replace them. Good news about the wing paint!

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Old 10-10-2015, 04:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi, perhaps try cut and polish for the wings. It works a treat. Start with something you would use on a car - if its not working, try something you would use on a launch / power boat. Re the engines, perhaps consider 3D printing if you have another 1/50 with the correct engines. I 3D printed the horizontal stabilizers on the attached model.
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3D printing, wow! That's an amazing result. That'll revolutionise the repair of these types of model, amazing.

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Hi, perhaps try cut and polish for the wings. It works a treat. Start with something you would use on a car - if its not working, try something you would use on a launch / power boat. Re the engines, perhaps consider 3D printing if you have another 1/50 with the correct engines. I 3D printed the horizontal stabilizers on the attached model.

Are you serious? 3D printed stabs? WOW you could put Westway out of business lol. I'd surely buy parts from you if you make them. And thanks for the advice on the cut and polish. Ill give it a shot.
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I have been seriously looking into this 3D printing thing but cannot find anyone with a printer large enough that could churn out say a complete 1:100 model.



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I have been seriously looking into this 3D printing thing but cannot find anyone with a printer large enough that could churn out say a complete 1:100 model.
That's why you build it like a real aircraft: sections
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That's why you build it like a real aircraft: sections
I have always wondered if there was any way to take a 1/144, 1/200, or other small plastic model kit and just enlarge each piece to a make a large scale kit and put together to complete a very accurate and detailed travel agency sized model.

Perhaps 3D printing may be the answer. No more bulky one piece fiberglass models with a lack of detail. I see the potential for huge highly detailed cutaway models that can be taken apart in sections for easy portability and storage. This could be the new beginning of travel agency type aircraft models!
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I agree, this could be a significant developent for the hobby. I wonder what the guys at Pacmin make of this, be interesting to know. Personally, I'm not into cutaways, though works of art they most definately are. I just like the look and feel of the Westway, Space, Skyland, AMI Phelps and Pacmin models, after all, they were the original 'travel agent' type models.

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I have access to a laser scanner, I can scan anything, and then get a model to be 3D printed. Problem is I don't think the lower end 3D printers print 'clean' enough, and would require a hobbyist to do more work like sand parts, etc.

But the scale you wanted, the pieces you wanted, it's all possible.
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I have access to a laser scanner, I can scan anything, and then get a model to be 3D printed. Problem is I don't think the lower end 3D printers print 'clean' enough, and would require a hobbyist to do more work like sand parts, etc.

But the scale you wanted, the pieces you wanted, it's all possible.

So youre saying you can scan a large model and save the file for possible 3D printing? I'd be interested in your scanning services.
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So youre saying you can scan a large model and save the file for possible 3D printing? I'd be interested in your scanning services.
drop the "possible" because it can be done. There's a series of steps involved, not easy, but totally do-able. And I use the same scanner that other companies have used to scan and rebuild aircraft parts, but actually scanned entire aircraft.

Scanning is the easy part. Then the scan data needs to be retopologized for and built with 3D printing in mind. Once that's done, then you can 3D print.
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drop the "possible" because it can be done. There's a series of steps involved, not easy, but totally do-able. And I use the same scanner that other companies have used to scan and rebuild aircraft parts, but actually scanned entire aircraft.

Scanning is the easy part. Then the scan data needs to be retopologized for and built with 3D printing in mind. Once that's done, then you can 3D print.
And now the big question!!!!!!! How much?
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And now the big question!!!!!!! How much?
Contact me offline. There are too many variables.
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It's only a matter of time before a specialty "Print" studio will start doing this-!
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As a number of members have pointed out, the main issue is the finish. The more you pay the less obvious the 'lines' are. I needed to spend quite a few hours and a number of different grades of sandpaper to get the parts in a position where i could prime them. I found the cost was in the vicinity of what i paid for the model and what i would have paid if i had asked a restoration company to hand make the parts. It really depends on how much you value the model, i had been chasing this particular model for a long time and bought the model knowing that 3d printing was an option as i have another model with the same parts so scanning was not an issue. The parts fitted like a glove! I agree with one members comment that this will revolutionize the restoration business, technology will improve in time with an associated reduction in cost. So much for intellectual property! If you have an outstanding model, print it. Just gotta find the decals...

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