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Old 06-03-2015, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wanted to share pics of my new addition. The paint is original and in very good condition. Only needs restoration to the cabin seating but that shouldnt be too hard as i can use the other plastic seats as a template.

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Old 06-03-2015, 03:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi stratoliner,

The model airplane itself is in very good condition.

I'm sure that once the interior cabin seating is restored, the model will look fantastic!

It's a really nice edition to your collection. Best of luck!



Thanks for posting the pics.

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Old 06-03-2015, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A real piece of airline history you have there, I'm sure she's going to be well looked after.

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Old 06-03-2015, 05:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Very Nice!
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
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very cool !
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Old 06-04-2015, 01:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Stratoliner,

You know, at first I was skeptical that the fuselage paint was original. Well I apologize for even thinking this. So, I researched the model (like I always do) and it is exactly the way Raise Up painted them. One of my trusted mentor in Germany got back to me with pictures and this quote regarding your model: "one of the latter Raise Up models and better moulds (took an actual FERMO mould).A nice specimen, apart from its cond. and parted wing-construction".
Here is a link to another like yours as the paint goes.
https://www.facebook.com/1448871665348601/photos/pcb.1654476804788085/1654476084788157/?type=1&theater

Personally I don't mind those wings. So if you can get some seats and figurines and restore the inside you will end up with a beauty.

Here is a link to the very same moulding and what Fermo did with it.

http://www.aviationmodels-online.com/Featured_model6/3905.htm

Great find!!! I am jealous.

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Old 06-04-2015, 04:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Nice model. I saw it for sale.

Will you restore the model yourself?

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Old 06-04-2015, 06:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for all the feedback! Yup this was a great find and it actually looks better in person. I just wonder that if it is the same mold as Fermo then why did Raiseup not polish the wings and make it look shiny like the SAS model posted by 707Boeing ? That SAS looks awesome!
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Raise Up took over several molds from Fermo, e.g. the "standard" DC-8 in 1/100 by Raise Up is an old Fermo mold as well.

As far as I know, Raise Up never polished. This could have different reasons. Costs for example, since polishing is more expensive than painting.
Another reason might be customer specification. Maybe KLM specified "all painted" for their models.
Last but not least mold condition. If molds were worn out, the castings may not be suitable anymore for polishing.

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PS: Nice model, indeed.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Raise Up took over several molds from Fermo, e.g. the "standard" DC-8 in 1/100 by Raise Up is an old Fermo mold as well.

As far as I know, Raise Up never polished. This could have different reasons. Costs for example, since polishing is more expensive than painting.
Another reason might be customer specification. Maybe KLM specified "all painted" for their models.
Last but not least mold condition. If molds were worn out, the castings may not be suitable anymore for polishing.

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PS: Nice model, indeed.


Thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense. Would you happen to know how the clear plexiglass was a ttached to the model? was it glued or did it hav tabs that inserted into the model cutaway frame? Thanks
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Anyone know how to remove the extra oversprayed silver spray paint from the right wing? i tried a touch of nailpolish remover and it was starting to get at the original varnish underneath the silver. is there a better way?
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I have no idea, how the perspex is fitted to the fuselage. I have never seen a complete model in reality.
You may have to find your own way.

To remove not original paint, I always start with cleaning wax coming from the automotive. If that does not work out, industrial ethanol (alcohol) is the next step. But ethanol is already very risky. Good luck!

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Thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense. Would you happen to know how the clear plexiglass was a ttached to the model? was it glued or did it hav tabs that inserted into the model cutaway frame? Thanks
Very nice model, congrats.

The plexiglass on an original model won't need tabs or glue. It fits into the small space between the floor and the casting at the bottom, and at the top it will fit in between the casting and the galley dividers, once they're in place.
The space is easy to see on your picture no. 3.

Because of this, the plexiglass needs to be a bit wider than you think. It's made to fit.

The plexiglass originally used on Fermo versions was quite thin, probably about 0.5-0.75 mm, which was made to shape using hot air and pressed between two halfpipes. The thinness of the plexiglass makes it flexible enough to bend into the mentioned spaces between casting and galley dividers/floor.
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Very nice model, congrats.

The plexiglass on an original model won't need tabs or glue. It fits into the small space between the floor and the casting at the bottom, and at the top it will fit in between the casting and the galley dividers, once they're in place.
The space is easy to see on your picture no. 3.

Because of this, the plexiglass needs to be a bit wider than you think. It's made to fit.

The plexiglass originally used on Fermo versions was quite thin, probably about 0.5-0.75 mm, which was made to shape using hot air and pressed between two halfpipes. The thinness of the plexiglass makes it flexible enough to bend into the mentioned spaces between casting and galley dividers/floor.


Hi,
Thanks for the info. I checked the framework where the plastic would fit and it certainly looks like it was not a snug fit nor did the plexiglass align with the contour of the fuselage. I feel using small tabs on the plexiglass would allow the plexi to be better aligned with the frame of the fuselage rather than bend into the non-uniform spacing. Also i saw that there appears to be dried glue residue on the forward and rear of the plexiglass attachment sites, perhaps to hold it in place firmly.

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It's very possible that Raise-Up used a different technique than Fermo did. I know that Fermo used the mentioned hot-air pressing technique to shape the plexiglass to the contour of the fuselage, and no tabs or glue was used by them, probably to make access easier when changing bulbs or repairing the interior. The slightly oversized plexiglass made it a nice and snug fit on their models.
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