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Old 03-11-2015, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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First time poster in this forum. I have a chance to buy this model. I'm told it is a 1:48 or 1:50 scale IL-62. Condition doesn't look great, perhaps some sun damage. Owner says it was 1/150 built in 1977 for the USSR Soviet Aviation Adminstration. Thoughts on this model? Obviously value is subjective but I'd take any advice. Thank you.
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Maggie, and welcome to the forum, I think you'll enjoy being here

Your model is a 1/50 one, and rare, I used to own one myself. It was made by a Soviet era concern called Aviaexport. These models were made for exhibition and display, at events where there was a requirement to promote products of the Soviet aerospace industry. They were also made for the airlines of the old 'Eastern Bloc' to display in their headquarters and travel agencies/ticket offices. They are usually hollow fibreglass or plastic, and not very durable, so finding one in good shape is not easy. In the main, they had decals of the vinyl 'stick on' type, and were often not stuck on that well! They peel and discolour a lot, again making a nice clean and 'fully stickered' one, a bit of a rarity. Some of the Communist airlines had models made 'at home' these were usually smaller than the Aviaexport models, and some of those were truly horrible. Some airlines such as Malev, Balkan and Interflug, also used to use the old East German VEB 1/100 plastic kits of the Soviet airliners, professionally finished in East Germany, for display at their premises.

I used to own three Aviaexport 1/50 models. They were an Aeroflot IL62, an Aeroflot IL86, and a LOT Tu134. All are now in the care of a fellow forum member. I have this picture of the IL86, you can see the IL62 and the Tu134 in the background.

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Old 03-11-2015, 02:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you for the information. As far as restoration, I assume folks just use paint since the stickers are long gone. Asking price is $300. Is that too far out of line? I don't need a great deal, I just don't want to get robbed. Thanks again.
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Welcome to the forum. This is a very interesting model. I have a similiar model in scale 1/50 made out of fiberglass:



Unfortunately "your" model is in need of a total restoration. The only company I know in the States that does restorations is Atlantic models. I heard that you have to wait up to one year until they take care of your order. For a restoration decals are basically needed. I guess it is next to impossible to find decals for a Il-62 in scale 1/50. Therefore you have to prepare the decals yourself or the restorator has to do it. It gets more expensive if the restorator has to prepare them. You can prepare the decals yourself based on decals for a smaller scale models. I did that in Photoshop for a 1/50 Yak-40 and a 1/50 Boeing 720B.

Before I would buy the model I would check the cost for a restoration unless you can do that yourself.

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Thank you for the information. As far as restoration, I assume folks just use paint since the stickers are long gone. Asking price is $300. Is that too far out of line? I don't need a great deal, I just don't want to get robbed. Thanks again.
Concerning the price. I paid a lot more for my model. A reason was that the seller was from Switzerland so shipping cost was no big deal (seller brought the model personally). If I would buy a model of that size in a foreign country I would have to pay a FORTUNE to ship it to Switzerland ...

USD 300.-- is a bit on the expensive side for the model considerung the condition but you are not getting robbed (in my opinion).

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As Scipio has said, it probably comes down to the level of restoration you're happy with. Based on your pictures, the model itself looks to be intact, and IMO the price is not bad. If the paint itself is in good shape, then it may be just a case of getting some decals sorted. None of the Aviaexport models I've seen have a nice 'Pacmin style' mirror finish to them, and that goes for the ones I saw in the airline offices too. So, are you looking at doing a restoration retaining the original standard of the finish of the model, or a total respray, with a higher quality, shiny and more expensive finish?

I did forget to mention in my earlier post, that some of the various design bureaux of Antonov, Beriev, Ilyushin, Tupolev and Yakovlev etc, have their own 'in house' model shops, which manufactured models for presentation to various VIPs and perspective customers. Scipios gorgeous IL62 looks like one of those, and is the best one I've seen in my 35 years of collecting.

Here's an interesting site if you've not come across it already:

http://www.ussr-airspace.com

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Old 03-12-2015, 12:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi Maggie,
I guess the IL-62 is a bit different the 62m but i thought of posting in case it helps you.
ilyushin company made a few of the IL-62M in 1:50th, and they made them of metal. I have one. They were made of light sheet metal and have removable engines (they slide off the pods). I am including pictures of what mine looked like when I purchased it many years ago (before in bare metal and after primed and ready for paint). The after pictures have the engines removed. I took it to a fellow that refinishes antique automobiles. Why re-invent the wheel, I ghought. He did a magnificient job. It has a weight to size ratio that if you put engines and controls on it it could fly.
Anyway, I do have 1:50th decals for it in LOT, CUBANA and Aeroflot. I'd have to tesearch to see if any of these would help you.

Nice find!

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Definatly looks like an Ilyushin design bureau model, as opposed to an Aviaexport one. I have seen a video of a big display of Tupolev design bureau models, put on show for the Soviet Premier Alexander Kruschev, back in the late 50s. Some of those models were bigger than 1/50 including a huge cutaway of a Tu114, just amazing!

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Thanks for everyone's input, very helpful. Assuming I get it, I don't know which direction I would go. Normally, I prefer things to be left alone and kept as original as possible. Perhaps I would just try and track down new decals. If I decide to buy, I will get it on Saturday.

This is the first time I've found something like this before so have not done much research on the topic. Lots of great stuff on this forum. I really like the models with cutways.
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Hi Maggie. The type and level of restoration you decide on, has to be your decision of course. I did very little to my two 1/50 Ilyushins, other than a good but careful cleaning, and it was worth doing. If you do buy that model. Please keep us posted with how you get on.

Here's a good site for airliner display models, with some cutaways too, in case you haven't seen it.

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Hi Maggie,

Welcome to the board.

Thanks also for starting this thread concerning your Ilyushin model airplane.

Appreciate you sharing the pic of your model with all to see.



Best of luck if you eventually intend on selling it.

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Aeroflot Iljoesjin II-62 model made by IMC, scale 1/50. Material vacuform plastic. Photo courtesy of Marcel Duijn.
Aeroflot Tupolev TU-204 made by IMC, scale 1/50. Material vacuform plastic. Photo courtesy of Marcel Duijn.

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