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Old 08-04-2021, 09:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Panzerkampf is doing SU-30 !!!

.... SU-30MKK to be correct.

https://www.facebook.com/PanzerkampfModels/

http://www.panzerkampf.com/

.... and not doing, but preparing mold right now, to be more correct.
Panzerkampf say they currently are making the tooling, and indeed, these facebook pictures show 3D rendered computer graphics, not prototype or pre-pros.
But what I see right now looks already really impressive. From the first look I can say - yes, this looks like SU-30 (... hoping without that "HM inhouse style" superfugly horizontal front seam line). If so, this mold could be a winner.

So I can only say: OMG, wow ! I´m so excited! One of rare and already badly needed good news (after the Hobbymaster dirty play with deleting dorsal air brake on their SU-30SM ...).

I loudly applaud to Panzerkampf and look forward to many attractive schemes.
JC Wings missed opportunity here. Their (old Witty´s) SU-30 is actually still very good mold with only one, but very prominent big mistake - wrongly angled radome seam line (and as recently proved out, also slightly longer nose than should be). And just that longer nose could be maybe good prerequisite for fuselage modifications to correct the nose seam line (+ making completely new radome tooling). Missed opportunity.


Really glad Panzerkampf looks to be new and more and more serious player on the modern jets diecast scene. And as their existing toolings already proved, they have the passion to make their models right and very correct (... ok, rare exceptions like colors on their latest Rafale B exist ).

So - lets go, Panzerkampf!
(... and when making the mold, please don´t miss the fact that on the wingtips there can only be either ECM pods OR wingtip missiles, not both at the same time! ... ).





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Old 08-05-2021, 03:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The missille under the ecm is impossible....Ecm only or wing tips and missille. The model look good.
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My humble explanation is that this possibly merged Panzerkampf´s graphic designer on the artwork, only to show that both ECM pods and missiles are planned. I´m sure that Panzerkampf will make it correct on final model.
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll hope.
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Old 08-06-2021, 06:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Its interesting you like the JC mould. I have one JC SU-30 (Indonesian Air Force). The biggest problem with it is that it is far too heavy in the back so it falls on its arse all the time. Plus the camo is poorly done. Im hoping I can replace it with a Hobby Master.
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Old 08-06-2021, 12:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Cannot confirm my JCW SU-30 is tail heavy. Not even close. Just from the position of the main landing gear, maybe some 70% of the model´s weight is in front of MLG, not behind. At least my models. I cannot even imagine how SU-30 could be tail heavy. Also on Witty stand it behaves very well.

Typical tailsitter in my collection is Mig-15 from Hobby Master, for example.


And yes, even with the wrong seam line and moving rudders I like JCW SU-30 more than any future possible HM SU-30 models. For sure JCW SU-30 has its mistakes, but:
- has not horizontal seam line in the front, which perfectly spoils the look of every HM Fanker, but has nice and accurate one-piece construction.
- has not trenches instead of panel lines, and has even rivets, which is the feature which Hobby Master is not able to master.
- has openable dorsal air brake, which moreover has a nice smooth fit on my pieces.

.... and all this is on maybe 15 years old tooling.

With the colors I can understand you. I have one F-15 from Hobby Master in ugly blueish hue instead of correct grey, so I know how this can be annoying.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Its interesting you like the JC mould. I have one JC SU-30 (Indonesian Air Force). The biggest problem with it is that it is far too heavy in the back so it falls on its arse all the time. Plus the camo is poorly done. Im hoping I can replace it with a Hobby Master.
All my JC Su-30`s sit quite happily on their feet too. Not sure what issue you have. Have you any pic`s?




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Really glad Panzerkampf looks to be new and more and more serious player on the modern jets diecast scene. And as their existing toolings already proved, they have the passion to make their models right and very correct (... ok, rare exceptions like colors on their latest Rafale B exist ).

So - lets go, Panzerkampf!
(... and when making the mold, please don´t miss the fact that on the wingtips there can only be either ECM pods OR wingtip missiles, not both at the same time! ... ).
I love your enthusiasm for this Ladia! It does look great. However, i`m going to sit optimistically on the fence for now!!!!! Until we get some more info on schemes, colours and such like.
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Hopefully Panzerkampf brings out the Dasault models that Hobby Master doesn't make:

Mirage III, F1, Super Étendard, Super Mystere...
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I'll hope for the mirage III, Super etendard ect.
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I hope it doesn't take another Bruce LEE to give us that nice model.
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A Sukhoi SU-30 with movable canarads is surely a definite hit.

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Wow it looks amazing! Grooves (panel lines) dont look so deep either which is good.
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It's a 3D CAD model for the moment in the image.....But the shape is promising and their last tools are great.
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I hope that the fairing between the front and rear seat is taken out in black, because if it does not diminish the appearance of quality with the open dome a lot
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