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Old 05-25-2021, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Corgi recent releases may show the company is going through difficult times.
Besides a very decent Bristol Fighter, most other recent models show significant shortcomings, a clear sign nobody is really in control:

- A Bf 110F, in an immaculate white paint, somewhat unrealistic. It is apparently sold only via their website, which does essentially restrict it to the UK domestic market as shipping and/or post Brexit import duties make the whole thing unaffordable everywhere else.

- Their latest B-17 release made from a mould showing its age - but don’t worry, they charge a full price for it.

- An awfull P-38G, no QC whatsoever, with curved machine guns and showing more gaps and trenches as the worst magazine production ever seen, but for 10 time the price.

- And the cherry on the cake, the P-51 D with one drop tank only, with no real solution to install the missing one, or remove the present one, since the right attachments points normally imbedded in the wing casting are completely missing.

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With such blatant, repeated incompetence, it is very likely the joke will not last very long. The pandemic might not help, but others have not shown anything similar. Even if Corgi does not disappear, there is golden opportunities for anybody to jump on the WWI/WWII market.
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Old 05-30-2021, 01:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Corgi has been in a downward spiral for years. It was around the time a number of years ago when they had a brain fart and changed the stands with those god awful awkward bulky metal stands and QC was nowhere to be seen when I knew they'd lost the plot. And wasn't that because Hornby took over? It's a shame because they were once a nice brand.
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Old 05-30-2021, 01:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I bought the “Snake Hips” B-17. What’s wrong with that one? Haven’t opened it yet...
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Old 05-30-2021, 04:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Corgi recent releases may show the company is going through difficult times.
Besides a very decent Bristol Fighter, most other recent models show significant shortcomings, a clear sign nobody is really in control:

- A Bf 110F, in an immaculate white paint, somewhat unrealistic. It is apparently sold only via their website, which does essentially restrict it to the UK domestic market as shipping and/or post Brexit import duties make the whole thing unaffordable everywhere else.

- Their latest B-17 release made from a mould showing its age - but don’t worry, they charge a full price for it.

- An awfull P-38G, no QC whatsoever, with curved machine guns and showing more gaps and trenches as the worst magazine production ever seen, but for 10 time the price.

- And the cherry on the cake, the P-51 D with one drop tank only, with no real solution to install the missing one, or remove the present one, since the right attachments points normally imbedded in the wing casting are completely missing.

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With such blatant, repeated incompetence, it is very likely the joke will not last very long. The pandemic might not help, but others have not shown anything similar. Even if Corgi does not disappear, there is golden opportunities for anybody to jump on the WWI/WWII market.
But on the other hand they've done an excellent 1/48 E E Lightning & improved the 1/48 Phantom to the same grade as the Lightning. Gotta agree with you on the other issues though, the Mustang drop tank being the rotten cherry on a decidedly mouldy cake!
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Rumours of Corgi's demise in the diecast market have been around ever since I've been collecting! Yeah they've gone through rough times, they've cut back drastically on the amount of releases each year, but having been headed up by the old Oxford Diecast head honcho they seem to have steadied the ship and produce models people want, along with new and improved moulds. Yeah they'll have some stinkers, but which company doesn't. Unless covid has hit them badly they'll keep shuffling along I'm sure.
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Old 05-31-2021, 08:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I bought the “Snake Hips” B-17. What’s wrong with that one? Haven’t opened it yet...
I have 2. "Bit of Lace" and "Little Miss Mischief"

The problem is the mold is very old and dire need of retooling. For example you can see quite noticeable gaps in the frame between the nose and cockpit some collectors have been begging Corgi to fix this for years.

Corgi sometimes redoes the tooling of their older models the last one was the P-51. Not every model needs it but the B-17 does.

However a new mold is expensive and there is no guarantee on a return for Corgi since the B-17 is a model they have produced for decades (meaning their are tons in circulation).

If we are talking about a new tooling It's probably money better spent for Corgi to focus a new airplane than to redo an existing one. Between redoing the B-17 and the upcoming Bristol Beaufort (first time it has been done), most people rather have the Beaufort (myself included).
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Corgi recent releases may show the company is going through difficult times.
Besides a very decent Bristol Fighter, most other recent models show significant shortcomings, a clear sign nobody is really in control:

With such blatant, repeated incompetence, it is very likely the joke will not last very long. The pandemic might not help, but others have not shown anything similar. Even if Corgi does not disappear, there is golden opportunities for anybody to jump on the WWI/WWII market.
Well we all know that you have an extreme distaste for Corgi, which you seem to feel the need to constantly repeat, here and elsewhere.

Corgi have always dropped clangers, this is absolutely nothing new. They’re far from having a monopoly on this habit. Let’s look at a sample of HM’s work this year.

GN-A Eurofighter colours well off, continuing their regular series of wrongly coloured models. We can add every SEA camouflage release and F-22 for the last several years to the list. Consistently incorrectly painted nose camo demarcation lines on their Flankers (apart from the first few, after which they literally could no longer be bothered), not the only repeated fault either. Known faults on the Tornado that again, they just couldn’t be bothered with for three releases. U-2s with HUDs. Forgotten strakes on the F-104S (well, it’s not an “S” without strakes, so less obvious but much worse than Corgi’s P-51). Growlers with gun vents. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the point. Are HM in a death spiral? I don’t think so.

Fact is, people on forums are a tiny minority of customers. Even those on forums will purchase Harriers with ground set aux air doors, whilst the airbrake is welded closed; to say nothing of Chicken Pox F-35s. The majority seem to keep on buying. So long as runs aren’t silly large, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. What may bring Corgi down eventually is Hornby.

I wish all the manufacturers would sort their acts out. As much as you hate Corgi, they’ll probably be here a bit longer.
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Old 05-31-2021, 04:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Well we all know that you have an extreme distaste for Corgi, which you seem to feel the need to constantly repeat, here and elsewhere.

Corgi have always dropped clangers, this is absolutely nothing new. They’re far from having a monopoly on this habit. Let’s look at a sample of HM’s work this year.

GN-A Eurofighter colours well off, continuing their regular series of wrongly coloured models. We can add every SEA camouflage release and F-22 for the last several years to the list. Consistently incorrectly painted nose camo demarcation lines on their Flankers (apart from the first few, after which they literally could no longer be bothered), not the only repeated fault either. Known faults on the Tornado that again, they just couldn’t be bothered with for three releases. U-2s with HUDs. Forgotten strakes on the F-104S (well, it’s not an “S” without strakes, so less obvious but much worse than Corgi’s P-51). Growlers with gun vents. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the point. Are HM in a death spiral? I don’t think so.

Fact is, people on forums are a tiny minority of customers. Even those on forums will purchase Harriers with ground set aux air doors, whilst the airbrake is welded closed; to say nothing of Chicken Pox F-35s. The majority seem to keep on buying. So long as runs aren’t silly large, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. What may bring Corgi down eventually is Hornby.

I wish all the manufacturers would sort their acts out. As much as you hate Corgi, they’ll probably be here a bit longer.
Spot on! NONE of the manufacturers have much to be proud of at times- Calibre with ill fitting loadouts & tailplanes on the F-16 & Noel having a petulant paddy at the customers;
Air Commander Phantoms with ill closing canopies;
Dragon jets with sparse loadouts & no way to retro fit any, & divebrakes on their Superbugs;
Witty Legacy hornets with incorrect nose shape & incorrect F-16 nose cross section shape.
Corgi on the other hand have made some superb recent moulds as well as clangers- the 1/48 Brisfit, Lightning & upgraded Phantom, & the forthcoming Beaufort will no doubt be a success too.
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Old 05-31-2021, 08:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It seems like Corgi is slipping in the quality department, but these are usually $35-$75 planes so you get what you pay for. Its not like their quality is as bad as Roadchamps, Motormax or Zylmex. Their quality is good enough for these planes to be sold in an air museum gift shop or a hobby shop. It might not pass muster for Diecast enthusiasts like us, but its a great entry level model for novice collectors or kids. So let it be what it is. Treat them as if they are on par with Ertl or Matchbox. Are they the best? No. Are they serviceable for people on a budget? Sure.

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Old 05-31-2021, 11:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thought that I should speak up in defense of "Miss Virginia:"





In the way of offering an alternative point-of-view, I should mention that I started out as a HM/CW/Hogan collector. However, I've slowly evolved into a Corgi devotee. In fact, I've spent more money on Aviation Archive offerings in the last year than on any other brand. Among other qualities, I appreciate the fact that Corgi treats its models like true collectibles, rather than "this month's knockoffs." Beyond that, all that I really have to say is, hey Mr Pooch, sends us more of these OD, USAAF birds!
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It seems like Corgi is slipping in the quality department, but these are usually $35-$75 planes so you get what you pay for. Its not like their quality is as bad as Roadchamps, Motormax or Zylmex. Their quality is good enough for these planes to be sold in an air museum gift shop or a hobby shop. It might not pass muster for Diecast enthusiasts like us, but its a great entry level model for novice collectors or kids. So let it be what it is. Treat them as if they are on par with Ertl or Matchbox. Are they the best? No. Are they serviceable for people on a budget? Sure.
1. No, they're not, not always- some of their far more expensive models like the Lanc, B-17 & Vulcan have had bad faults. & no, you don't get what you pay for- Calibre & Air Commander are not cheap, & they have faults.
2. Corgi are supposed to be above entry level & are aimed at true collectors, not novices & kids. They are intended as & should be miles above Ertl & Matchbox. Let's NOT let it be 'what it is', because it's what it shouldn't be for a brand that's capable of better.
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Thought that I should speak up in defense of "Miss Virginia:"





In the way of offering an alternative point-of-view, I should mention that I started out as a HM/CW/Hogan collector. However, I've slowly evolved into a Corgi devotee. In fact, I've spent more money on Aviation Archive offerings in the last year than on any other brand. Among other qualities, I appreciate the fact that Corgi treats its models like true collectibles, rather than "this month's knockoffs." Beyond that, all that I really have to say is, hey Mr Pooch, sends us more of these OD, USAAF birds!
Hi Rudy, thanks for posting a pic of Miss Virginia, it's the first one I've seen of the real thing. It may be just the lighting on the model, but it looks like rear of both tail booms are a different shade of OD than the front of the plane. Is that correct, or just an illusion?
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Hi Rudy, thanks for posting a pic of Miss Virginia, it's the first one I've seen of the real thing. It may be just the lighting on the model, but it looks like rear of both tail booms are a different shade of OD than the front of the plane. Is that correct, or just an illusion?

There's a subtle difference in the OD, but I don't think that it's the entire boom(s). Rather, I think that it's the radiators. This isn't uncommon when you mix painted plastic parts with painted zinc. Put another way, the same paint was likely applied, but the result is slightly different because of the materials to which it was applied.


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Thanks for your reply, I do think it’s a good looking model.
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Thanks for your reply, I do think it’s a good looking model.

You're very welcome.


I think that it's cool that Corgi converted its J/L models to the earlier model G. In the old days, I suspect that they'd have simply marked up an L with "Miss Virginia" decals and left it at that. As to the quality of Corgi P-38, in general, the models hold up nicely when compared to the Witty (and lesser) offerings in 1/72, in my opinion.
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