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Old 03-25-2021, 12:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I got my monthly newsletter from Jumblies and right there in the headlines is the announcement of PMA new Tooling

A Horton GO-229 in 1/72 Scale

Doesnt look took bad, there are alot of small bits but it looks like you can remove the engine cowling and see the engines. There is also options for landing gear up/down. I dont see a stand but it doesnt mean there isnt one.

Price is 60 Pounds

I don't know this company, they main do vehicles and figures this appears to be their first airplane.

Anyone know if they are good? Might still get it as I think the GO-229 has never been done before.
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Old 03-25-2021, 05:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Diecast, really? If so count me in!

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Old 03-26-2021, 09:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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PMA (Precision Model Art - Germany) is the company that put out the very nicely details V-2 rockets a couple of years back. I have one of them and it is excellent. It is however all plastic and my guess is this model would be plastic too. I think you would find the quality to be excellent though. This is an very interesting subject and I would think many collectors would want one.
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Old 03-27-2021, 12:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I got my monthly newsletter from Jumblies and right there in the headlines is the announcement of PMA new Tooling

A Horton GO-229 in 1/72 Scale

Doesnt look took bad, there are alot of small bits but it looks like you can remove the engine cowling and see the engines. There is also options for landing gear up/down. I dont see a stand but it doesnt mean there isnt one.

Price is 60 Pounds

I don't know this company, they main do vehicles and figures this appears to be their first airplane.

Anyone know if they are good? Might still get it as I think the GO-229 has never been done before.
It has- Luft-X made one. But theirs wasn't well detailed & was u/c up only, on a stand. PMA's tanks, guns, rockets & other military vehicles are very good indeed- intricately detailed with panels/bodywork that lift off to display the detailed engines/cabs. They are mainly plastic/resin- only the chassis are diecast. But that doesn't matter considering the detail & paint finish of the models.
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Old 03-27-2021, 02:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It has- Luft-X made one. But theirs wasn't well detailed & was u/c up only, on a stand.
I bought the Luft-X version only to return it......

Made of resin and poorly sculpted moulded in some area’s for my tastes.

The PMA looks to be better.

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Old 03-27-2021, 05:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Plastic or not, this looks very interesting to me. Will need to see actual pictures before making a decision.
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes. Looks great. have a couple of their V2`s. Excellent quality. Would recommend to anybody.
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Old 03-27-2021, 08:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Here are some of their AFVs. Detailed!

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Old 03-28-2021, 04:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I bought the Luft-X version only to return it......

Made of resin and poorly sculpted moulded in some area’s for my tastes.

The PMA looks to be better.

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PMA's version will also be mainly resin/plastic- only the bottom part of their models are diecast. But their models are nevertheless brilliantly finished & detailed.
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Old 04-07-2021, 07:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The nine-inch wingspan would not fit in my space for my WWII theme shelf.
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Old 04-07-2021, 07:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The nine-inch wingspan would not fit in my space for my WWII theme shelf.
I think for the detail of this model, die-cast or not, i would make space for this. As well as being an outstanding model, it`s the fore father of stealth, the B2 bomber, by way of the XB49. It`s a beautiful thing. Good on PMA for producing such wonderful models.
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I think for the detail of this model, die-cast or not, i would make space for this. As well as being an outstanding model, it`s the fore father of stealth, the B2 bomber, by way of the XB49. It`s a beautiful thing. Good on PMA for producing such wonderful models.
Good points. The wingspan on an A-10 Havoc is about 10.25 inches.
https://www.flyingmule.com/products/HM-HA4210
But I would have a difficult time adding one to one of my WWII shelves.PMA - New Tooling Horton Gotha GO-229-img_5182.jpg
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But I would have a difficult time adding one to one of my WWII shelves
Yeah. I see what you mean. It`s a bit full!
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Old 06-11-2021, 06:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I just added this little gem to the growing PMA portion of my diecast collection. The included assembly tweezers are a nice touch – but no display stand. I love PMA’s detail in their models – which can only really be achieved with plastic. Given the actual aircraft’s significant impact on post-war aircraft design (ie. first stable flying wing, first stealth design, swept wing speed, blended engines), I expect it will fly off the shelves when it eventually reaches retail stores – and those stores are allowed to open full-time


I’ll start with photos of the packaging
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I just added this little gem to the growing PMA portion of my diecast collection. The included assembly tweezers are a nice touch – but no display stand. I love PMA’s detail in their models – which can only really be achieved with plastic. Given the actual aircraft’s significant impact on post-war aircraft design (ie. first stable flying wing, first stealth design, swept wing speed, blended engines), I expect it will fly off the shelves when it eventually reaches retail stores – and those stores are allowed to open full-time


I’ll start with photos of the packaging
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Now that you have this model in hand.....the $69,000 Bit Coin question is....

What percentage of the model is truly diecast metal?

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Old 06-14-2021, 12:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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My Sat posting with pics must still be in the forum Moderators's queue so I'll try a quick reply to say the lower fuselage and wing is a one-piece metal casting. All other parts are plastic -- though that makes the detail excellent.
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Figured I’d retry with smaller pics to see if that's the posting problem…

And now some close-ups with the (as shipped) plastic panels removed showing the exquisite detail and colouring. Note that the in-flight landing gear covers have the retracted wheels molded in – you don’t see that level of detail very often. The model has a nice heft to it. The underside is a one-piece metal casting while the interior details and 2 upper wing surfaces (including controls) are plastic – as they need to be to capture the detail.

I’ve had a surplus HM, 3 point, cradle-type stand laying around for a few years and now it has a home underneath this PMA model.

Unfortunately, my starboard cannon appears to have been hit by the ground crew’s service vehicle ... though it too appears to be metal so I won't attempt to repair

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Thanks for the mini review for a half and half, sort of diecast and plastic model.

I’ll bite and buy .....while I can still get a 20% off from TFM

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Sidebar.....long ago I purchased the luft-x 229 which was all resin....to me, the finishing of the mould was so inadequate that for the first time, if I recall, was the only time I returned the model back to an etailer! I was that dissatisfied. The hook for this model was the “fantasy” decaling of the Richthofen squadron shield on both engine cowlings.

I’m a Horten Brothers fan of there flying wings...I do already have several plastic and resin models...not displayed.

And I also have BvR, Hartmann, Richthofen 71 squadron theme....

I guess if I still wanted a Horten/fantasy Richthofen 71 squadron 229, I can add the Richthofen shield decals to this new PMA.

Luft-X 229 Richthofen version.....
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Figured I’d retry with smaller pics to see if that's the posting problem…

And now some close-ups with the (as shipped) plastic panels removed showing the exquisite detail and colouring. Note that the in-flight landing gear covers have the retracted wheels molded in – you don’t see that level of detail very often. The model has a nice heft to it. The underside is a one-piece metal casting while the interior details and 2 upper wing surfaces (including controls) are plastic – as they need to be to capture the detail.

I’ve had a surplus HM, 3 point, cradle-type stand laying around for a few years and now it has a home underneath this PMA model.

Unfortunately, my starboard cannon appears to have been hit by the ground crew’s service vehicle ... though it too appears to be metal so I won't attempt to repair

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I'd either contact the seller or send it back for an undamaged one.
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Thanks for the mini review for a half and half, sort of diecast and plastic model.

I’ll bite and buy .....while I can still get a 20% off from TFM

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Sidebar.....long ago I purchased the luft-x 229 which was all resin....to me, the finishing of the mould was so inadequate that for the first time, if I recall, was the only time I returned the model back to an etailer! I was that dissatisfied. The hook for this model was the “fantasy” decaling of the Richthofen squadron shield on both engine cowlings.

I’m a Horten Brothers fan of there flying wings...I do already have several plastic and resin models...not displayed.

And I also have BvR, Hartmann, Richthofen 71 squadron theme....

I guess if I still wanted a Horten/fantasy Richthofen 71 squadron 229, I can add the Richthofen shield decals to this new PMA.

Luft-X 229 Richthofen version.....
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Good God, that doesn't even have any guns!
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I'd either contact the seller or send it back for an undamaged one.
Postage costs to and then from would have made it cost prohibitive for me to do an exchange ......besides I had read previously somewhere that it was not the best of resin moulds I.e. noticeable hand sanding marks under the paint and poor smoothing of contoured areas.....I had taken a chance and regretted it. I received a refund less the original postage paid and postage to return. I was happy that the Etailer did not have a restocking charge as well.

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Postage costs to and then from would have made it cost prohibitive for me to do an exchange ......besides I had read previously somewhere that it was not the best of resin moulds I.e. noticeable hand sanding marks under the paint and poor smoothing of contoured areas.....I had taken a chance and regretted it. I received a refund less the original postage paid and postage to return. I was happy that the Etailer did not have a restocking charge as well.

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No, I meant CdnDieGuy should send his PMA one back with the bent gun.
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No, I meant CdnDieGuy should send his PMA one back with the bent gun.
My mistake....a senior moment

CdnDieGuy may not want the extra shipping expenses either....just saying

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"first stealth design"
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My mistake....a senior moment

CdnDieGuy may not want the extra shipping expenses either....just saying

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No need, the cannon repair was quite easy and she’s again airworthy -- on my HM stand


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Correct, return postage from Canada is far higher than both eBay’s SpeedPak and Hong Kong Post’s rates to me. Yes, for those who were asking, the former is how I got mine well before most retail pre-Orders are available. But, I digress from this forum’s PMA model topic
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