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Old 02-27-2021, 12:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I`ve always been unhappy with Calibre wings method of attaching weapons/accessories to their models. The lugs snap off, they need sanding down to fit, the accessories fall off, and they chip the paintwork around the locator holes. I`ve used s/steel pins as replacements, but it`s still not the ideal solution. WELL I`VE HAD ENOUGH!!!

This was going to be a two pronged project.

1, I wanted to replace the lugs and stores mounting holes with magnets. Especially the outboard wing mounted rotating pylons.

2, I also wanted to convert the supplied self defence missile pylon to fit the outboard hard point. The `MR` version seems to have asymetrical stores as a standard layout. ELINT pod on one side. Self defence missiles on the opposite side. Since this version does not carry any other weapons, and Calibre include a full `M` version loadout too, i just needed to rob a pylon from one of the un-guided rockets.

Luckily my Neodymium N42 Grade 2*1mm & 1*1mm magnets arrived this morning, so i set to work.

First thing i did was to increase the size of the outboard wing hardpoint pylon hole. The magnets are 2mm in diameter, very slightly more than the hole. This was pretty easy to do using a hand vice. I carefully glued them in, making sure the polarity was the same on both sides of the wings.

I then cut off the lugs from the outboard pylons and drilled them 1mm in depth using a 0.95mm drill bit. The 1*1mm magnets were a shade under 1mm in diameter so it`s best to drill smaller first just in case. I placed the magnets inside the hole making sure they were flush. Since these are very small and fiddly i just smeared superglue over the top to set them in. P.S. It`s very important you get the polarity right, else you`ll be digging it out!!!
Believe me, i know!!

Anyway. Since a picture or two speaks a thousand words. Here are some:-
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The following images show the stores on the aircraft. These magnets are quite strong. Since the 2mm magnets attached to the wing are very slightly proud, i needed to pack the rear and front upper pylons with thin plastic card. (I`ve left them un- finished/un-trimmed so you can see them clearer. This helps in two ways. It helps with correct vertical alignment, and, the extra friction on the underside of the wing stops the stores from rotating on the smooth surface of the magnet. (The missile pylon tended to rotate out of position, as the centre of balance is way off centre). This solved it. Painting the magnets may also help. You may need a pinch of blu-tac if you are displaying this aircraft in a banking turn however.

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These are working extremely well. I`m delighted in fact. I also replaced the front lug on the drop tank with a 1mm*1mm magnet leaving the rear lug (as a locator) attached to see what happened. The rear lug is not a very tight fit in the hole but with the magnet on the front of the drop tank, it holds extremely well in place anyway!!

Here are some more pics with the wings in their various positions:-

Code Carlo4 Su-24; "Magnetic" Ho Ho!!!-rscn3110.jpg
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All in all a good mornings work! No more broken lugs, chips or bits falling off!!! These little magnets are strong!! Of course this system can be used for any model. It`s simple to do. I Just need to do the rest of the stores and Su-24`s too.
Just get the poles the right way round!!! and between different aircraft too!! You don`t want to go and put the stores on another aircraft and find out they`re repelled!!! Hope you liked it. Carlo4 out!!
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well done.

I ordered the air to ground “M” version, & discovered the hard way its $20 weapons accessory kit didn’t fit the damn pylons. This is a must see thread for fellow Calibre Wings “Chemodan” owners.
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Well done.

I ordered the air to ground “M” version, & discovered the hard way its $20 weapons accessory kit didn’t fit the damn pylons. This is a must see thread for fellow Calibre Wings “Chemodan” owners.
Thanks. Yeah. It was really frustrating trying to get the standard weapons to fit properly. The lugs are different sizes, and the holes in the fuselage are too! The amount of times the outboard swivel weapons/pods fell off was really annoying, i can tell you!! Not to mention trying to get the drop tanks to stay on!! I`m sure Calibre could have done better!

A pack of 100 N42 magnets only cost just over £8 for the 2mm, and £6 for the 1mm. No brainer. And it`s such an easy mod.

I`m going to do the same with the `M` version. I also want to mount the AB-100 bomb rack on the outboards too.

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The centre line fuselage magnets may be harder to mount, as the thickness of the metal fuselage is quite thin, so not much depth to pack the hole out. I can envisage losing a magnet inside. I`ll have to put some superglue around the hole to make it smaller, then use epoxy or slow drying superglue gel to gently push the magnet in. That`s the plan anyway. I`ll stick with just using a magnet on the front mounting point to begin with, like i did with the drop tank. (The aircraft can be rotated 90 degrees and that drop tank stays put!! Amazing!).

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Just as an update; I sanded the thin plastic packing i applied atop the missile pylon and found there is now no movement when the model is canted at an angle! It just gets better. This is just a single 1mm Neo magnet! I`ve ordered another 300 magnets for anymore models i may need to adapt. (Su-22 perhaps?). Magnets may overtake filler in my favourites list.

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Finished doing some of the stores now. All my Su-24`s have magnets installed in their wing hardpoints. I converted the defunct ELINT pod`s that are supplied with the Su-24`M` bombers to glue onto the AB-100 bomb racks, by carefully cutting the pylon from the pod and sanding.
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Below are the magnet equipped AB-100 bomb rack and Unguided rocket pod attached to Su-24`M` bomber `White 16`.
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Unfortunately, the first Wave Su-24`s did not have interchangeable wing glove pylons. It didn`t really matter much with the Ukrainian `MR` since `MR`s would normally only carry drop tanks on these pylons. However since both pylons on Russian `White 16` are glued on, most of the stores (and in the accessory pack) would not be on the right type of pylon for this `M` bomber version.
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So now i`m in a dilemma as to either mount them on the original pylons and live with it, or to remove(cut off)the grey lower pylon from the white upper pylon to make it more realistic... Hmmmm.....

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Wow nice work Carlo4. I'm really impressed with that!
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Wow nice work Carlo4. I'm really impressed with that!
Ta. It was done mainly out of of necessity and frustration at the pretty appalling location tabs of Calibre Wings models. I hear the F-14`s suffer from the same issue? So this can be applied to them, or any model with similar issues for that matter. Hopefully it`ll help or guide anyone whom were thinking of doing the same thing, and overcome any pitfalls that may arise. Though to be honest, it was pretty smooth going. Definitely worth doing, as long as you`re not planning on selling it on of course!

I`ve just found out the Wave 3 "Blue 91" Su-24 i pre-ordered is arriving tomorrow so i`m pretty excited. (It doesn`t know what`s in store for it yet though!) Ha ha!
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Finished doing some of the stores now. All my Su-24`s have magnets installed in their wing hardpoints. I converted the defunct ELINT pod`s that are supplied with the Su-24`M` bombers to glue onto the AB-100 bomb racks, by carefully cutting the pylon from the pod and sanding.
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Below are the magnet equipped AB-100 bomb rack and Unguided rocket pod attached to Su-24`M` bomber `White 16`.
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Unfortunately, the first Wave Su-24`s did not have interchangeable wing glove pylons. It didn`t really matter much with the Ukrainian `MR` since `MR`s would normally only carry drop tanks on these pylons. However since both pylons on Russian `White 16` are glued on, most of the stores (and in the accessory pack) would not be on the right type of pylon for this `M` bomber version.
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So now i`m in a dilemma as to either mount them on the original pylons and live with it, or to remove(cut off)the grey lower pylon from the white upper pylon to make it more realistic... Hmmmm.....
Well i decided yesterday to cut the pylon! It isn`t for the faint hearted though. What a pain in the a**. I first started cutting it in-situ, but after a few scary moments and blunting a few knife blades,(that plastic is very tough) i decided to break the pylon mounting from the wing glove. Un-surprisingly this resulted in some chipped paintwork around the mount.

Once off the aircraft i was able to chop/split the pylon in half fairly easily, sanded it, and mounted a magnet in the front hole. I filled the chipped paintwork on the aircraft with white superfine milliput(I love filler, did you know?), let it dry overnight and sanded it this morning. And you`d never know.

I just need to mount magnets and peg`s in the lower grey pylons to re-attach them to the upper pylons when the drop tanks are needed.
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I think these look a lot better now they`re on their correct mountings. It was worth doing, but i certainly don`t want to do it again anytime soon! Thankfully CalW`s Su-24`s now have split pylons as standard.

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