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Old 10-24-2020, 02:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Didn't take hobbymaster long to jump on that "venom scheme" aircraft. I suspect the model won't be as good as the photos, as most photos I've seen at the aircraft have been very carefully sculpted, but don't get me wrong I still think it will be neat.

The VF-111 sundowners is a good choice. I have several of the (better) X-Plus ones in storage, but they are unobtainium otherwise. This is one of those "let's home HM does this one with their whole arse for a change" aircraft.

Likewise, the VMA-231 harrier is a very sensible near-re-run.

Hope HM moves on from this boring stuff - bring us some of the cooler Ukrainian (especially!), Polish, Slovak MiG29 schemes, please.
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Imho that F-16C looks 8-)
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Just watching the U-2 getting kicked further and further down the road by both companies because neither can get the mold right... *singular salty tear

I don't blame them either, the U-2 is gonna be hard to get right in 1/72 scale.

Other than Venom, I got to yawn at this poster, but I hope someone enjoys it more than myself.
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I`m personally quite excited by the Indian Air Force Mig-29. Not many IAF aircraft out there to date. Although it`s a basic scheme it`s a welcome addition. I can`t quite believe HM haven`t done this Tiger Mig-21 scheme as yet though;-
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I`d love a IAF Mig-25R in my collection too, if HM are listening....
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I'm actually excited abt the 2 RSAF F5s, but call me biased

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I`m personally quite excited by the Indian Air Force Mig-29. Not many IAF aircraft out there to date. Although it`s a basic scheme it`s a welcome addition. I can`t quite believe HM haven`t done this Tiger Mig-21 scheme as yet though;-
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I`d love a IAF Mig-25R in my collection too, if HM are listening....
They've been asked several times about the MiG-25R but it can't be done with steel tooling. However, technology is changing. They're venturing into 3D printing with the Italian F-104. Depending on how that experiment goes, I'd like to think that we could see some interesting developments.
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They've been asked several times about the MiG-25R but it can't be done with steel tooling.
I didn`t realise that. However, if they re-tooled the Mig-25 cutting the nose immediately forward of the front canopy shield panel line. Make the entire nose forward out of plastic, they could produce all RBT,RBK, RBSh variants etc. including trainer versions, prototypes and reducing the seam line to boot. It would give them a lot, lot more options. I think they`d sell like hot cakes. I really think they missed a trick not doing this originally, as even the PDS version should have a slightly longer nose section than the original P variant to incorporate the improved radar.

Maybe CalW are listening.....
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I didn`t realise that. However, if they re-tooled the Mig-25 cutting the nose immediately forward of the front canopy shield panel line. Make the entire nose forward out of plastic, they could produce all RBT,RBK, RBSh variants etc. including trainer versions, prototypes and reducing the seam line to boot. It would give them a lot, lot more options. I think they`d sell like hot cakes. I really think they missed a trick not doing this originally, as even the PDS version should have a slightly longer nose section than the original P variant to incorporate the improved radar.

Maybe CalW are listening.....
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Believe me I tried all those angles before the tooling was finalised and apparently it can't be done that way either. Now I can't recall all the details, but it goes something like all those models out there are done with after market resin sets. No, I don't really get it either.

I think 3D printing should be able to circumvent all the problems. It's just a matter of cost for acceptable resolution. Oh, and whether enough people want them to do it.
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2021 not 2020.
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Believe me I tried all those angles before the tooling was finalised and apparently it can't be done that way either. Now I can't recall all the details, but it goes something like all those models out there are done with after market resin sets. No, I don't really get it either.

I think 3D printing should be able to circumvent all the problems. It's just a matter of cost for acceptable resolution. Oh, and whether enough people want them to do it.
I didn`t realise that either. Wow. You`ve certainly done your best and all credit to you! It certainly seems the ship has sailed for HM to do it after all this time, even with 3D printing available. Calwings on the other hand could very much fill the gap and improve on HM`s. They could potentially make a lot of profit from this if they played it smartly. Especially having the Foxhound in the pipeline. I think a lot of people would still want a good Mig-25 without a visible seam line, which may have put many collectors off HM`s. Though when they could get around to producing one is another matter.
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I didn`t realise that either. Wow. You`ve certainly done your best and all credit to you! It certainly seems the ship has sailed for HM to do it after all this time, even with 3D printing available. Calwings on the other hand could very much fill the gap and improve on HM`s. They could potentially make a lot of profit from this if they played it smartly. Especially having the Foxhound in the pipeline. I think a lot of people would still want a good Mig-25 without a visible seam line, which may have put many collectors off HM`s. Though when they could get around to producing one is another matter.
I think you're right that the seam line is off-putting. There's a lot of HM jets you can say that about now though. HM's looking at the MiG-25 again. At the moment it seems that good quality 3D printing for large components is too expensive, so it's still a no - but they're keeping it under review.

Maybe Calibre is the best long term hope, but it would mean a completely new tooling and it's a long way off. The MiG-25 is very different to the MiG-31.
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Maybe Calibre is the best long term hope, but it would mean a completely new tooling and it's a long way off. The MiG-25 is very different to the MiG-31.
Yes it certainly is. I meant the Mig-25 would be an ideal companion to the Mig-31 should they produce one. I always thought it was strange that HM supplied a drop tank with their Mig-25P`s & PD`s as it was only the RB versions that carried them, which is why i presumed HM would produce these versions in the future.
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They've been asked several times about the MiG-25R but it can't be done with steel tooling. However, technology is changing. They're venturing into 3D printing with the Italian F-104. Depending on how that experiment goes, I'd like to think that we could see some interesting developments.
How does the 3D printing work? Excuse my ignorance if it's a dumb question.
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I've got my sights on the Czech Mig-29. The good thing about HM having released this Mig-29 mould,is many airforces had them in service which had really interesting and colourful camo schemes!!
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How does the 3D printing work? Excuse my ignorance if it's a dumb question.
Basically you take successive cross sections from a three dimensional Computer Aided Design file of an object and lay them down one on top of each other in your chosen material to gradually build up the three dimensional object. The cost varies tremendously depending upon the material used and the thickness of the slices. Not all materials are suitable. It has many benefits. Three are that it allows you to build shapes without a mould, no physical prototype is required, and to produce some structures that you cannot make with conventional techniques. Of course, there's also drawbacks. See here for more details:

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I've got my sights on the Czech Mig-29. The good thing about HM having released this Mig-29 mould,is many airforces had them in service which had really interesting and colourful camo schemes!!
I posted this a while ago. Schemes for ages on the MiG-29 mould!


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How does the 3D printing work? Excuse my ignorance if it's a dumb question.

How does the 3D printing work?



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Honestly, I don´t see 3D printing being ready for scale modelling imho. At least I haven´t seen any 3D printed model yet with really nice and smooth surface right from the printer. But I would be thrilled if so.
In my understanding, from the printer you´ll get quite uneven surface with visible layers / steps, and you have to smoothen them subsequently with sandpaper and file and maybe filler and skills and lot of manual work (depending on how complex your model is), which is all relatively time-consuming for manufacturing. I don´t see current 3D printing technology mature enough for diecast models manufacturing imho. But would be really excited if there would be really usable 3D printing possibility one day, as it would unlock great possibilities.


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Maybe - and this is pure speculation - maybe it could be possible to make, say, different nose cone with 3D printing, then to put it on some lathe and smoothen those steps there. This is just how - in theory - would be possible to achieve some reasonable manufacturing time with relatively simple shape. But no idea if this could really work - you know: accuracy, economy, printing time, profitability, painting, seam lines and myriads of other possible difficulties.
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