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Old 10-19-2020, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys

I got a second hand century wings online at a low price, but it has a damage at the wing glove area that im wondering how i could repair it.
Does anyone has any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 10-19-2020, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow. There`s some damage there. To be honest, first thing i`d do is try and get your money back. That massive wing glove gap doesn`t look good. Looks like that wing pivot may be damaged too.

If you can`t get a refund, or you really want to keep it then i would probably try and carefully remove the filler(is that filler?!) Depending on what that stuff is, it may pull off the original paint underneath. If the filler is `solid`, i myself would carefully use a modelling knife to get rid of the higher, lumpy part near the glove, then progress to some fine grade sandpaper/wet & dry to get rid of the rest. Use less course paper the nearer you get to the surface. Finally i would use some very fine grade once you get near to the original paint surface. Nice and easy does it though. You don`t want to mark any un-affected areas. You may find that once you have sanded most of it off, tiny bits which are left on the surface may come off just using your finger nail. Be prepared though, you will probably have to touch up the repaired area with the closest paint match once you`re done, and carefully repaint the stencils. The filler in the panel lines can be picked out with a pin/needle/pick or modelling knife. Someones done a sloppy job on that for sure!

Good luck!

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Old 10-25-2020, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello,


Iīm sorry to see that desaster. Unfortunatelly I donīt have an advice for you but another repair-problem. Sorry for pushing into your thread, but I think the subject fits very good for my problem too. Please be kind if this is wrong, since I am a new member of the forum and trying to behave at my best.

I have bought a Hobby Master F-16 (1/72 HA3870) from eBay. The model is very nice but the pitot tube was already a little wobbly.
It happened the way it had to happen and the tube was broken off.
I have tried to glue it, but it didnīt last even for a short time. So I wonder, how to repair this tube.

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I have found some pitot tubes on ebay, but I think itīs for models kits. When I want to install this on my Hobbymaster model I have to pull the rest of the old tube out of the planes nose or have to drill it out.
Because I think the remaining tube in the planes nose made of metal, the drill method is perhaps very risky. I must say, I donīt have much experience with model making. Only in my far away youth, but the models couldnīt reach todays diecast quality.
Has anybody repaired such a damage before or have an advice for me?
Does anybody knows, if itīs possible, to get replacement parts directly from Hobbymaster?
If itīs to risky one solution is to leave it as it is, but I want to know some options.

riceless: Iīm very curious about your repair job. I hope you manage this in a good way.


Best regards and thanks in advance
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Does anybody knows, if itīs possible, to get replacement parts directly from Hobbymaster?
If itīs to risky one solution is to leave it as it is, but I want to know some options.
Hi,
Don`t panic! I don`t currently own a Hobbymaster F-16 but if the pitot is a separate item then you can get a spare by contacting them by their e-mail dept at:- [email protected]

I have contacted them a few times to replace missing parts. They have never failed me. Excellent service and speedy delivery. I wish every company was as good as HM are. Tell them what F-16 ID number you have though.

If you cannot get the part you are looking for, and if indeed you do, you will still need to drill the broken part out. Again, don`t panic. You will need a `Hand drill vice`. It`s basically a pen shaped metal tool with a chuck at the end that you put a small drill bit into. (See below). Most have multiple size drill bit options built in. You`ll need a small diameter drill bit.
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Then purchase a drill bit set. Sets from 0.3 to 1.6mm are widely available. (I`ve used them countless times on models and are indispensable. I have used them for replacing Calibre Wings pretty poor stubby weapons attachments).

Use a smaller diameter bit first, then build up to the diameter the pitot is, test fitting as you go. If you cannot get a pitot, you`ll need to fashion one out of plastic or metal. Evergreen styrene rod is great. Plenty of diameters available. I use it for rigging on bi-planes. Or you can use S/steel rod. Again, plenty of diameters available, but plastic is easier to cut and fashion. Once the pitot is in place you can use a bit of filler(i prefer milliput) to shape the contact point between pitot and radome. Then just paint the pitot.

You should be able to get a spare replacement from HM though(if it`s a separate piece). I would contact them first.

This hopefully will be helpful for those with similar problems, be it with broken pitots or weapon attachment points.

Hope it goes well. Let us know how it goes. Cheers.

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Old 10-25-2020, 11:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This is a good point to note the HobbyMaster F-16 uses a one piece radome /pitot tube setup. Drilling it might not pan out or look “proper” compared to how it comes normally.I echo Carlo4s post- contact HM and ask for a spare radome. Then just change the whole radome when it arrives.

HM sent me a new landing gear cover for a Super Hornet which was missing it from the box , free. It did take about a month shipping time from China, so bear that in mind if you ask for a new radome.

Hopefully this helps!
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Old 10-25-2020, 11:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hello,


Iīm sorry to see that desaster. Unfortunatelly I donīt have an advice for you but another repair-problem. Sorry for pushing into your thread, but I think the subject fits very good for my problem too. Please be kind if this is wrong, since I am a new member of the forum and trying to behave at my best.

I have bought a Hobby Master F-16 (1/72 HA3870) from eBay. The model is very nice but the pitot tube was already a little wobbly.
It happened the way it had to happen and the tube was broken off.
I have tried to glue it, but it didnīt last even for a short time. So I wonder, how to repair this tube.

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I have found some pitot tubes on ebay, but I think itīs for models kits. When I want to install this on my Hobbymaster model I have to pull the rest of the old tube out of the planes nose or have to drill it out.
Because I think the remaining tube in the planes nose made of metal, the drill method is perhaps very risky. I must say, I donīt have much experience with model making. Only in my far away youth, but the models couldnīt reach todays diecast quality.
Has anybody repaired such a damage before or have an advice for me?
Does anybody knows, if itīs possible, to get replacement parts directly from Hobbymaster?
If itīs to risky one solution is to leave it as it is, but I want to know some options.

riceless: Iīm very curious about your repair job. I hope you manage this in a good way.


Best regards and thanks in advance
Write HM ans they can send a new nose cone. Easy to replace.
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Old 10-26-2020, 06:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Write HM ans they can send a new nose cone. Easy to replace.
Does the radome come off easily? I wouldn`t want him to damage any other part of the aircraft attempting to remove it. I know i had a damaged Su-27 radome once that just wouldn`t come off. (Though maybe this is because there is more surface area for the glue perhaps).

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Old 10-27-2020, 10:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you Carlo4 and Shawn507 for your excelent tips and very detailed instructions.
I havenīt expected such a helpful and polite community.

Because I am not very skilled with my hands I contacted Hobbymaster first.
And, wow, what a service!
I got a really quick answer:

"About the F-16, we will be able to send you replacement nose cone with pitot tube.
Before you remove the nose cone, you can use hair dry to heat the nose up a bit for easy removal."

I have to pay a very little fee. For this they send me 2 pieces via air mail.
I have never expected and seen such fast and excellent service from a manufacturer before.
Super! I think HM really deserved his excellent reputation not only for their super detailed and beautyful models but for the excellent service and the ear for their customers.

By the way for Panavia Tornado fans.
I have wrote that I like the HM Tornado very much, but I would love to see it with a litte bit more realistic canopy.
They answered, that they are "considering to adjusting it a bit."
I am very excited about the new models from HM.

Thanks to all!
Kai
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Old 10-28-2020, 06:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That`s great news! HM service is superb. Glad you got it sorted, and you have also taught me something too about using the hair dryer!!

Cheers!
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Excellent repairs done! Wow!!!
Wish I could do the same kindve repairs ( or adjustments in my case!) so that its rectified without ruining the actually body part. In particular reference now to my Calibre Wings (not HM) SU-24 model.
I need to change the main cooling intake on the upper fuselage to face the correct way instead of backwards,as this was how it was put on when made! Adjustments like these are crucial and saves me the aggro of trying to get a new part and in this particular situation, this attachment. And I can't exactly ( or want to), get another model like this as a replacement. Make sense?
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Hi.
A few of us had the same misfortune to have similar trouble with the SU-24`s. More often than not with the two intake scoops atop of the fuselage being the wrong way round. If you look up the thread below on the first page you`ll have some idea as to how to go about removing these item`s.

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One of my Su-24`s had a loose central scoop which just fell off! Hopefully your`s won`t be glued too much. If you are worried about marking the fuselage whilst attempting to get it off, i suggest placing some thin padding material, such as mole skin/leather around the scoop to protect the paintwork just in case.

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Okay thank you for that! I didn't realise that it was an attachment and could be taken off manually. I thought it was incorporated in the mould itself!
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Wow. There`s some damage there. To be honest, first thing i`d do is try and get your money back. That massive wing glove gap doesn`t look good. Looks like that wing pivot may be damaged too.

If you can`t get a refund, or you really want to keep it then i would probably try and carefully remove the filler(is that filler?!) Depending on what that stuff is, it may pull off the original paint underneath. If the filler is `solid`, i myself would carefully use a modelling knife to get rid of the higher, lumpy part near the glove, then progress to some fine grade sandpaper/wet & dry to get rid of the rest. Use less course paper the nearer you get to the surface. Finally i would use some very fine grade once you get near to the original paint surface. Nice and easy does it though. You don`t want to mark any un-affected areas. You may find that once you have sanded most of it off, tiny bits which are left on the surface may come off just using your finger nail. Be prepared though, you will probably have to touch up the repaired area with the closest paint match once you`re done, and carefully repaint the stencils. The filler in the panel lines can be picked out with a pin/needle/pick or modelling knife. Someones done a sloppy job on that for sure!

Good luck!
Thanks for the advice mate.

This model was advertised as second hand and damaged so i wont get refund for it.

The filler/glue/putty is solid and hard, i have no idea what it is. Apparently the previous owner tried to fill up the gap but failed miserably. I guess i'll just try to sand it out really carefully and slowly......

Btw, if anyone know some good diecast repair/service guys, please let me know! Thanks!
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Hello,

that was quick.
Today, the two noses for my beloved F-16 HA3870 arrived via airmail from HM.
The new ones (or new twos) have exact the same color than the original radome.
So I took my wifes hair dryer and heated the old nose a bit and so could removed it without damaging the plane.
After that I put some glue inside the new nose an put it on the plane. Now it looks like new from the factory.
Thank you for the hints and thank you hobby master for the beautiful models and the excellent service.

Best regards to the diecast community and best success for you, riceless for repairing your model
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Hey. Excellent work!! It`s great when things such as this get sorted out. HM are definitely first class with their service. Well done!
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Hello,

that was quick.
Today, the two noses for my beloved F-16 HA3870 arrived via airmail from HM.
The new ones (or new twos) have exact the same color than the original radome.
So I took my wifes hair dryer and heated the old nose a bit and so could removed it without damaging the plane.
After that I put some glue inside the new nose an put it on the plane. Now it looks like new from the factory.
Thank you for the hints and thank you hobby master for the beautiful models and the excellent service.

Best regards to the diecast community and best success for you, riceless for repairing your model
Hi CaptainCursor, i'm glad this thread could help, so you could get your model repaired.

Since you mentioned hair dryer, now i'm thinking if i should try heating up mine as well. If that lump is some kind of glue, i might get lucky and get it to melt.
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Hi guys, are nozzles on century wings glued, or tried somebody tu pull them out? I want to change them for a new "D" nozzles from calibre wings. I already got them. Thank you
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