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Old 09-16-2019, 06:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I went to the store to only look for next one but this followed me home. I'm so happy with this.
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very nice. I have the first HM E release which is similar. Nice model.
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Wait, I thought the F-15E didn't have external fuel tanks? Wasn't this bird supposed to be the more streamlined variant of the F-15?
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Wait, I thought the F-15E didn't have external fuel tanks? Wasn't this bird supposed to be the more streamlined variant of the F-15?
The CFTs are lower drag than drop tanks, but when more gas is required it's not unusual for the F-15E to carry drop tanks as well.
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a great model and one i want to find soon, maybe HM will make some more hopefully not with some celebratory scheme like the last one
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I like the Slave I
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Hahaha! It's definitely better than an F15.
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The CFTs are lower drag than drop tanks, but when more gas is required it's not unusual for the F-15E to carry drop tanks as well.
Just curious, what's the difference in terms of looks?

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a great model and one i want to find soon, maybe HM will make some more hopefully not with some celebratory scheme like the last one
a lot are being sold here. the HM distributor in my country is near our place.
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a lot are being sold here. the HM distributor in my country is near our place.
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Gotta love the F-15E. I have the AK one myself.
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No. I am from Philippines. The distributor is like a 30 min train ride from my place. &#x1f642;
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Gotta love the F-15E. I have the AK one myself.
That was my first plan. But it's like $10 more expensive. We also have LN here but maybe $50 more.
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Old 09-17-2019, 04:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Wait, I thought the F-15E didn't have external fuel tanks? Wasn't this bird supposed to be the more streamlined variant of the F-15?
No, it is the strike/bomber variant of the F-15.
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If there's anything problematic about the HM f-15e is that they left unused too many of the pylons and weapon stations. Which is problematic, because that's a key distinguishing feature of f-15e from other variants.


At least those stations are there unlike being completely absent on Dragons F-15E. But why doesn't HM use them all?



I keep having to go to the FOV f-15e even if it lacks the gun port.....lol...
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No, it is the strike/bomber variant of the F-15.



Well I already knew that. I just remember reading somewhere that the F-15 had a sleeker air frame than the C variant because it was designed for high speed bombing runs and sorties that require planes with greater maneuverability. And in situations like that, the USAF had to rely on planes that had greater flexibility than the F-15C (which even though was better suited as a dogfighter and air interceptor, it still lacked the capabilities of the F-16 Falcon and other such contemporaries like the A-6 Intruder and the F-14 Tomcat--which had become a formidable strike aircraft of its own) So the F-15E was developed which had a back seat bombardier, a sleeker air frame which offered a greater thrust-weight ratio, speed turning, and radar systems that were unmatched by any other F-15 variant in the USAF
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No. I am from Philippines. The distributor is like a 30 min train ride from my place. &#x1f642;
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If there's anything problematic about the HM f-15e is that they left unused too many of the pylons and weapon stations. Which is problematic, because that's a key distinguishing feature of f-15e from other variants.


At least those stations are there unlike being completely absent on Dragons F-15E. But why doesn't HM use them all?



I keep having to go to the FOV f-15e even if it lacks the gun port.....lol...
I believe I saw a post in the past about HM being advised on the loadout by either an F-15E crew member or some sort of adviser. That's probably why they don't use all the stations...also they probably save on costs that way.
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I believe I saw a post in the past about HM being advised on the loadout by either an F-15E crew member or some sort of adviser. That's probably why they don't use all the stations...also they probably save on costs that way.
These days the F-15E never uses all stations. Back in the Gulf War era with dumb weapons it did. HM are pretty much correct given the period and ordnance supplied.
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These days the F-15E never uses all stations. Back in the Gulf War era with dumb weapons it did. HM are pretty much correct given the period and ordnance supplied.
call me not impressed at all by HM's excuse
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If there's anything problematic about the HM f-15e is that they left unused too many of the pylons and weapon stations.

If there's anything problematic about the HM f-15e than its the unfortunate horizontal division line in the front.
Although there are even much worse examples than F-15 of HM-typical bad nose joint lines, such as SU-35/27/33/J-15, F-5, F-1, and the most horrible Mig-25, HM still has long way to catch up with impeccable Witty design.
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Just acquired the Hobby Master HA4518 F-15E "75th D-Day Anniversary scheme"
97-0219, 492nd FS, RAF, 2019
A very nice scheme, I am no expert on the plane myself but a great looking plane.
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HM have done a fine job with their F15E,..certainly, in my view, the best of the F15E toolings. I like both Witty and HM F15Cs (and Dragon for that matter),....when HM do a good job with the scheme,....but the F15E,...hands down to HM.

The Witty tooling missed out on the CFTs till the last release,...which was a Lakenheath F15E. Also the HM weapons and weapon fit is leaps and bounds ahead of Witty.

Basically,...there is just the one Witty USAF F15E worth getting and other than the burner cans,...it really does come a poor second to HM's effort.
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Old 02-20-2020, 09:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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HM in deed do a fine job ! it will be interesting to see if they release models for F/A-18 Block III,
F-15EX if there are many changes, possibly not, may be more bomb racks ?
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HM in deed do a fine job ! it will be interesting to see if they release models for F/A-18 Block III,
F-15EX if there are many changes, possibly not, may be more bomb racks ?
I am all in for more bomb racks and weapon stations as long as they are fully loaded!
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Wait, I thought the F-15E didn't have external fuel tanks? Wasn't this bird supposed to be the more streamlined variant of the F-15?
The E's Flying out of Lakenheath often have wing tank's on.

Most sorties (day to day training sorties, out of Lakenheath) have the two pods under the intakes, Amraam (training round, no fins on it) left outer station, Sidewinder right outer station (training round), pod that looks similar to a sidewinder (don't think it is though) on the right inboard station. Racks on the conformals but empty (still waiting to get a picture of one with something loaded).

Would be nice if Hobby master went that little bit further and included a standard day-to-day training load, especially for the D-Day paint scheme LN model ( it's probably more accurate as I'm not sure if they have been deployed with that paint scheme ).

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call me not impressed at all by HM's excuse
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I have the 492FS version from Witty which I think still looks awesome. The only things I thought could've been addressed was the 'turkey feathers' look more accurate on HM's 'E' and also it's missing the weapons attachments on the CFT's. The panel lines are way less obvious on Witty's too. Something HM should really look at addressing going forward.
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The panel lines are way less obvious on Witty's too. Something HM should really look at addressing going forward.

I don't know why more people don't feel this way. If you scaled up a HM jet to 1:1 scale, it couldn't fly with all of the deep 1-2 inch wide gaps between all panels. The Wittys looked much better in this regard. Their Super Hornets look great. If HM toned down the lines, I'd have quite a few more in my collection.
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I don't know why more people don't feel this way. If you scaled up a HM jet to 1:1 scale, it couldn't fly with all of the deep 1-2 inch wide gaps between all panels. The Wittys looked much better in this regard. Their Super Hornets look great. If HM toned down the lines, I'd have quite a few more in my collection.
I don't get it either, but there must be an awful lot of collectors who go for the brickyard look - unfortunately.
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I don't know why more people don't feel this way. If you scaled up a HM jet to 1:1 scale, it couldn't fly with all of the deep 1-2 inch wide gaps between all panels. The Wittys looked much better in this regard. Their Super Hornets look great. If HM toned down the lines, I'd have quite a few more in my collection.
Sorry, while i get that HM's "house style" isn't your cup of tea, your "1:1" analogy is silly. There are an infinite number of things in any model that if you scaled up to 1:1 would be ridiculous. However, the panel lines that HM uses aren't just an accident of manufacturing or a limitation of the physical materials - they were deliberately chosen to artistically convey the impression of what our mind's eye believes the aircraft to look like and/or to simulate the effect of outdoor or distant viewing. This is called "scale effect." You may want to google this term.

Find me a plastic or diecast model built without any "scale effect" tricks, and I'll show you a bland, bad model that will actually look a bit unreal. again, you might not happen to like HM's particular implementation of scale effect (i think it's ok), but to argue against scale effect, as you appear to be doing with your "brick" comment, misses the key insight by a wide margin.
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Sorry, while i get that HM's "house style" isn't your cup of tea, your "1:1" analogy is silly. There are an infinite number of things in any model that if you scaled up to 1:1 would be ridiculous. However, the panel lines that HM uses aren't just an accident of manufacturing or a limitation of the physical materials - they were deliberately chosen to artistically convey the impression of what our mind's eye believes the aircraft to look like and/or to simulate the effect of outdoor or distant viewing. This is called "scale effect." You may want to google this term.

Find me a plastic or diecast model built without any "scale effect" tricks, and I'll show you a bland, bad model that will actually look a bit unreal. again, you might not happen to like HM's particular implementation of scale effect (i think it's ok), but to argue against scale effect, as you appear to be doing with your "brick" comment, misses the key insight by a wide margin.
I didn't realize my opinion was some sort of personal affront to you. Thank you for the insulting response.


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However, the panel lines that HM uses aren't just an accident of manufacturing or a limitation of the physical materials - they were deliberately chosen to artistically convey the impression of what our mind's eye believes the aircraft to look like and/or to simulate the effect of outdoor or distant viewing.
Well, if they were deliberately chosen, they must be perfect and clearly the only way to achieve such an effect.


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to argue against scale effect, as you appear to be doing with your "brick" comment, misses the key insight by a wide margin.
I didn't argue against scale effect nor did I saying anything about manufacturing or materials. I said that, if HM's lines were less exaggerated (like the Witty Super Hornets), I'd have more HMs in my collection. I'm sure I'm not alone in this opinion.
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Sorry, while i get that HM's "house style" isn't your cup of tea, your "1:1" analogy is silly. There are an infinite number of things in any model that if you scaled up to 1:1 would be ridiculous. However, the panel lines that HM uses aren't just an accident of manufacturing or a limitation of the physical materials - they were deliberately chosen to artistically convey the impression of what our mind's eye believes the aircraft to look like and/or to simulate the effect of outdoor or distant viewing. This is called "scale effect." You may want to google this term.

Find me a plastic or diecast model built without any "scale effect" tricks, and I'll show you a bland, bad model that will actually look a bit unreal. again, you might not happen to like HM's particular implementation of scale effect (i think it's ok), but to argue against scale effect, as you appear to be doing with your "brick" comment, misses the key insight by a wide margin.
Sorry to put a spike in your comment,but I don't agree with you! Any plastic model looks a thousand times more realistic ( especially the likes of Tamiya etc) because they do indeed show panel lines which are very obvious to the eye, but they are subtle and look more realistic. They don't over accentuate the 'panel grooves which is so obvious in HM's. Imho if Witty can pull it off ( put the two together,side to side....you'll see a massive difference!),then sorry I'm sure HM can too. ESPECIALLY considering they've come along way since there very first models and they're not exactly cheap!!
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