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Old 08-23-2019, 06:27 AM   #1
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Default Hobby master f-14 vs others?

I still have not purchased any diecast aircraft yet. I still plan to purchase a f-16c as my first and most likely a f-14 as my second then f/a18 as third but not quite sure yet. I am curious how Hobby Master f-14 compare to the others?
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:55 PM   #2
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HM and Centurywings are de the best because they use the same mould
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HM and Centurywings are de the best because they use the same mould

Sorry but I don't agree. The panel line on the HM/CW are too deep and wide. At the moment the best tooling for the F-14 is from Calibre Wings, with JC Wings also producing excellent models based off the Witty tooling. For the money I really like the paint and finish from Calibre and JC compared to Century Wings and HM.
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Should consider FOV F-14 too
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Old 08-24-2019, 07:56 AM   #5
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F-14:

- Calibre Wings:
no doubt the best F-14 in diecast: best looking, best general feel, most accurate, slightly weathered, rivets, remarkable wow effect, best accessories, best pilots.
(note: first two CalW releases suffered from file marks on the wing root leading edges/glove vanes)

- HM + Century Wings:
relatively accurate, good looking. Both are very similar molds, but not 100% same (HM has made their own tooling based on Century Wings mold, but its not exact same as CW mold). CW F-14s have more "glory" and nice finish. HM F-14s come with by a wide margin the worst and ugliest pilot figures on the diecast market today - if not ever. Also, HM F-14s are imho often unnecessarily too glossy.

- Forces of Valor / Unimax:
FOV Black Aces for example is really nice model. Mold is close to Century Wings, with differences like detailed U/C etc. (Century Wings bought FOV mold and tweaked it when FOV F-14 production ended looong time ago).

- Witty / JC Wings:
shape has many flaws. Front end/radome/canopy - that´s simply not F-14. Also wrong shape of wing root leading edge, "broken neck" gap etc. Otoh Witty / JC Wings has nice rivets and accurately engraved panel lines. Some of JC Wings F-14s have excellent panel wash that looks absolutely stunning, however wrong shape kills them for me.

My personal ranking:
1. Calibre Wings
2. Century Wings
3-4. HM + Forces of Valor
5. Witty / JC Wings

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Old 08-24-2019, 03:04 PM   #6
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i think calibre wing is the only one that will let you do all 3 weapon configurations interchangeably at the wing glove pylons. At least the upcoming Black Bunny one. See the picture of weapon pack here. as far as i know (but maybe someone else know something else?), all the other moulds limits you to just the sidewinder and sparrow/phoenix for the wing glove pylons. But the calibre one let you do the rare sidewinder+sidewinder configuration...

Too bad calibre wing didn't include two extra sparrow and phoenix that would let you able to do all the air to air load possible.

HM variation has a few air to ground ones as well, unique to HM? so if you want air to ground load you probably will have to get HM
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Y’all forget Dragon F-14s? Oldies but goodies!
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:36 AM   #8
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Y’all forget Dragon F-14s? Oldies but goodies!
As usual, lacking a lot of weapons....
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As usual, lacking a lot of weapons....
Including the Phoenix missiles, even on examples that carried them! And no attachment points to add any yourself.
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Including the Phoenix missiles, even on examples that carried them! And no attachment points to add any yourself.

Yeah, Dragon F-15E one is pretty bad as the only weapon included are a sidewinder and an amraam under each wing pylon and 3 fuel tanks.



Nothing else! Nothing at all underfuselage. The whole point of buying an F-15E is to have a lot of loadout underfuselage compared to non E. I think i am gonna put mine up for sale soon....lol...
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Yeah, Dragon F-15E one is pretty bad as the only weapon included are a sidewinder and an amraam under each wing pylon and 3 fuel tanks.



Nothing else! Nothing at all underfuselage. The whole point of buying an F-15E is to have a lot of loadout underfuselage compared to non E. I think i am gonna put mine up for sale soon....lol...
& unless you have very good model conversion skills, you can't even add them yourself, as there are no extra pylons, or even attachment points to add any! Ditto of course the DW F-14.
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& unless you have very good model conversion skills, you can't even add them yourself, as there are no extra pylons, or even attachment points to add any! Ditto of course the DW F-14.

Yeap. there's not even any underfuselage pylon or attachment. its almost like completely smooth....lol....


At least on the HM f-15E, even though they dont include much ordinance, they at least have the rudimentary underfuselage hardpoints.
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& unless you have very good model conversion skills, you can't even add them yourself, as there are no extra pylons, or even attachment points to add any! Ditto of course the DW F-14.

actually i just found a dragon f-14 fairly loaded out:

https://www.flyingmule.com/products/DM-50227

i would bet that this one of their rarer f-14 models.

There is a pretty clear pattern common to all manufacturers: Push out a ****load of minimally loaded planes. And producing a tiny amount of the loaded ones.......

Pretty typical sucky for us collectors!

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I never rate a model on how many bombs and missiles you can cram on its underside. Mostly I judge it on its mould and paint quality and refinement, scale, detail, authenticity and historical appeal. In fact, generally I dislike a bird that’s so ridiculously loaded that it looks like a clumsy goose carrying its oversized eggs underwing. Such a plane usually looks burdened and detracts from the aerodynamic design of the thing. The F-22 in particular looks best stripped smooth. But that’s just me.
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I never rate a model on how many bombs and missiles you can cram on its underside. Mostly I judge it on its mould and paint quality and refinement, scale, detail, authenticity and historical appeal. In fact, generally I dislike a bird that’s so ridiculously loaded that it looks like a clumsy goose carrying its oversized eggs underwing. Such a plane usually looks burdened and detracts from the aerodynamic design of the thing. The F-22 in particular looks best stripped smooth. But that’s just me.
Yes, but Dragon omitted the most important missile from most of their F-14 releases- the Phoenix, even from schemes that carried them. And you can't even add them for the reason that Wildpig and myself have pointed out.
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HM and Centurywings are de the best because they use the same mould
Not a thought in your statement is true.

They are not the same mould.
They are not the same.
They are arguably not the best, either, as I'd rate Calibre Wings as better.
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