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Old 07-16-2019, 09:50 AM   #1
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Maybe it will bring some new perspectives for discussion Which 1/72 Eurofighter better? Jc wings or corgi?
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Very interesting, hope HM does it justice. I have a Corgi Typhoon and TBH it's my least favorite pooch model. Lots of possibilities here! Just hope it doesn't take several years to see the light of day.
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Cool. This has been a notable hole in HM's lineup for ages. Nobody's favourite plane, but well worth for HM to do. I'll def pick up at least one. From HM we can expect a competent mould.

There go the crazy prices on corgi's BoB camo ones

Now, HM: please do the obvious: 1/48 Airacobra, Dauntless, and Hellcat. And throw in a Ki-43 for good measure.
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It took them a while,...but they got there.

Impressive loadout choice for a first up tooling.

Certainly RAF and Luftwaffe will be popular. Not so sure about the rest of the operators, Spain, Italy, Austria and some ARAB countries.

I wonder who will toss out their Corgi examples to upgrade to a HM one if they release the same scheme??
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I wonder who will toss out their Corgi examples to upgrade to a HM one if they release the same scheme??
If done flawlessly by HM.....I would consider swapping out my Herpa Ricthofen.....wait a minute....did I say flawlessly?

Btw Herpa has a poor load out



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Old 07-17-2019, 02:13 AM   #6
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Rather like the way Witty's tooling has the subtle panel lines. Suits the aircraft. I don't have any Witty's,....content with me three Pooch releases.

I always thought Witty had the edge forward of the wingroot over Corgi's effort.

Looking at the intake and upswept aspect of the underside fuselage and wings,....HM has really has improved on that part I reckon.

I am confident that HM's effort will be better than all previous efforts (well,....I assume that I guess),..the question is how much better and how much will it cost?
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NICE, got tired of bad molds. Can't wait for a German Eurofighter
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Great. There's been a bunch of change requests sent in by various people, but it already looks pretty good to me. Far from being my favourite type, but I hope HM finally does it justice.
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Sorry, maybe a late starter on this 'nickname' but I had to laugh when I read you guys gave the name Pooch for the manufacturer. Classic!!
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Sorry, maybe a late starter on this 'nickname' but I had to laugh when I read you guys gave the name Pooch for the manufacturer. Classic!!
It's also known as the Hound.
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This is SO FCK AWESOME!!!! I hope this will come soon so i can stop looking for that illusive corgi eurofighter aa36406 with the full weapon load. I hate it that corgi has cheated us out and makes only one mould with full weapon load

the problem is that it will probably take HM at least a year if ever to get anything to the market. just ask jcwings and their su-34..... sighhh oh welll...
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HM is usually very quick manu. Not sure how´s on 1/200 market, but in 72s actually HM is the fastest of all. New tooling is much more complex of course, but still I´d say you wont´have to wait a whole year. Personally wouldn´t be surprised if Eurofighter would be finished sooner than Calibre´s F-16.
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This is SO FCK AWESOME!!!! I hope this will come soon so i can stop looking for that illusive corgi eurofighter aa36406 with the full weapon load. I hate it that corgi has cheated us out and makes only one mould with full weapon load
Does this help you
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corgi-Avi...wAAOSw9E5b6tNa
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I always over load my model
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This sudden announcement and instant prototype just seems like it's only intention is to interfere with calibres plans to do the ef-2000. Calibre posted a photo of an ef-2000 back in 2017, I think HM should then back off and be more concerned about the accuracy of their current models then try to invade on other manus territory with inferior new moulds.

Let's face it, collectors are doing to ditch their HM copies anyway as soon as calibre do theirs. It happens all the time when both these manus do the same mould.
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which model is that? die cast or plastic to be assembled?
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This is a good surprise, but I'm still waiting for both Rafale and Mirage 2000 D/N
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which model is that? die cast or plastic to be assembled?
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This is a good surprise, but I'm still waiting for both Rafale and Mirage 2000 D/N
You won't get them, HM can't afford Dassault's license fee anymore.
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:03 PM   #20
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that's just the weapons. the new corgi eurofighter moulds are crap with regard to weapon loads.


So just wondering if anyone here know where i can get a corgi eurofighter aa36406? really like to have one. much appreciated if anyone can help out. thanks!
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This sudden announcement and instant prototype just seems like it's only intention is to interfere with calibres plans to do the ef-2000. Calibre posted a photo of an ef-2000 back in 2017, I think HM should then back off and be more concerned about the accuracy of their current models then try to invade on other manus territory with inferior new moulds.

Let's face it, collectors are doing to ditch their HM copies anyway as soon as calibre do theirs. It happens all the time when both these manus do the same mould.
The HM Eurofighter has been in the works for years. Long before CalWings was even announced as a manufacturer. HM have indicated interest with the tooling for years (on the forums). Their only reticence is two other manufacturers have produced the type extensively.

However one of the UK importers/distributers has been pushing for the tooling and most recently committed to it,...so its now been given a run.

A fellow forumite who life is about maintaining RAF Tiffies is involved in the tooling development. HM (and the UK importer/distributer) have been smart and got the initial tooling prototype out very early, allowing modification. HM and William have been very receptive to the forumite and the communication between the two is pretty encouraging.

But the suggestion the HM Tiffie tooling has anything,...what so ever to do with CalWings,...…..is not only out there,....but based on the history of the HM tooling, very wrong.
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I always over load my model
It's good. I love the Typhoon's weapon load out!
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Old 08-02-2019, 02:21 PM   #23
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So i just got a corgi eurofighter aa36406 and i have to say i am a little disappointed. Corgi could've improved on it but choose not to. disappointing at them....

The wing holes for the removable weapon pylons on the corgi eurofighter aa36406 are misdrilled by a tiny amount..... All of one for the GBUs. also the ASRAAM holes are either too shallow or loose so the pylons dont stay on.

I can see why corgi has moved toward just glueing the pylons in permanently on their later eurofighters.... Here's some pictures....

I placed a aa36401 for side by side comparison

Yes, we definitely need a better model... i think HM will do a better job at weapon loadout and pylons. But i have a feeling the all-moving front canard won't make it into HM model...
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Sorry to hear about your disappointment, anyway easy fix with the pylons:

just slightly cut / file outsides of both pylon pins to get the total distance to fit the drilled holes. If you then paint filed surfaces with similar color, no-one will know that pins have been modified.
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Just use blu tack to fix the weapon, landing gear or any loosing fit issue
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So i just got a corgi eurofighter aa36406 and i have to say i am a little disappointed. Corgi could've improved on it but choose not to. disappointing at them....

The wing holes for the removable weapon pylons on the corgi eurofighter aa36406 are misdrilled by a tiny amount..... All of one for the GBUs. also the ASRAAM holes are either too shallow or loose so the pylons dont stay on.

I can see why corgi has moved toward just glueing the pylons in permanently on their later eurofighters.... Here's some pictures....

I placed a aa36401 for side by side comparison

Yes, we definitely need a better model... i think HM will do a better job at weapon loadout and pylons. But i have a feeling the all-moving front canard won't make it into HM model...
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Old 08-02-2019, 04:48 PM   #26
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it still doesn't excuse corgi for doing such h a ****ty job on what is supposed to be a limited production model. it's a good thing i didn't pay out of the wazzu for this limited model!

also, the pin layout for the ext fuel tank pylon on the wings are completely different from the GBU pylons so i can't do a full on weapon load even though i have the extra bomb and pylon... would have to rip the fuel tank from the pylon and replace it with the bomb...

yeap, corgi def doesn't know how to do interchangeable pylons properly....
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This sudden announcement and instant prototype just seems like it's only intention is to interfere with calibres plans to do the ef-2000. Calibre posted a photo of an ef-2000 back in 2017, I think HM should then back off and be more concerned about the accuracy of their current models then try to invade on other manus territory with inferior new moulds.

Let's face it, collectors are doing to ditch their HM copies anyway as soon as calibre do theirs. It happens all the time when both these manus do the same mould.
I don't think we'll be seeing a Calibre Eurofighter. They never really followed up after their teaser pictures and then the Su-22 came out of nowhere, seems they decided to go another way. I seem to recall them also doing an Su 25 teaser at one point (HM beat them to that too).
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But i have a feeling the all-moving front canard won't make it into HM model...
I'm hoping the foreplanes will be a pleasant surprise

Both the Corgi and Witty moulds are train wrecks, I just couldn't bring myself to get either. Both have small positives, but they are massively out weighed by the silly mistakes and poor investment into the casts.

I'm sure the next instalment from HM will iron out some of these creases at least.
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I'm hoping the foreplanes will be a pleasant surprise

Both the Corgi and Witty moulds are train wrecks, I just couldn't bring myself to get either. Both have small positives, but they are massively out weighed by the silly mistakes and poor investment into the casts.

I'm sure the next instalment from HM will iron out some of these creases at least.

HM hasn't made one model with moving aerodynamic control parts so unlikely. AF1 and FOV make a lot of model with moving horizontal stabs. but because of the small pivot point in the back for each horizontal stabs, they are fragile



On the other hand, HM non moving surface are less fragile in a way.



But this foreplane is in front with both connect through one pivot rod so it should be stronger and not as fragile to implement. But i still don't see it happening for HM
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But i still don't see it happening for HM
Evo knows what he's talking about. It's happening, it's what William wants.
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But this foreplane is in front with both connect through one pivot rod so it should be stronger and not as fragile to implement. But i still don't see it happening for HM
I'm not sure how he's planning on doing it, as the foreplanes are not connected at all on a Typhoon. They are fitted independently but electronically sync'd as they only control pitch. If he chooses to go with them linked to make it a bit more rigid though I wouldn't blame him, it seems a reasonable idea. We shall see : )
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This is Witty's. As has been said, the mold is better than Corgi's, but the intake is too straight and there is not enough of a twist to the wing root. Also, Witty had a preference for one-off show schemes rather than operational aircraft, which was annoying. And the Raf Typhoon didn't come with Asraams, only Iris-t's.

So yes, it's good HM is doing one, it will likely be better.







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This is Witty's. As has been said, the mold is better than Corgi's, but the intake is too straight and there is not enough of a twist to the wing root. Also, Witty had a preference for one-off show schemes rather than operational aircraft, which was annoying. And the Raf Typhoon didn't come with Asraams, only Iris-t's.

So yes, it's good HM is doing one, it will likely be better.
Thanks for your post. I hope the witty wing one will finally satisfy me until HM. I bought the one and only witty eurofighter on ebay just now after reading your post....lol
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