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Old 07-10-2019, 12:33 PM   #1
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Quite interesting article......any tool (infrared search and track systems (IRSTs)) that will help to identify unknowns in the sky has to be a good thing....In a way I kind of think of it as a visual version of IFF.

Who knows, It may become another pod to add to models load out



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An enlightening vid.....

The Patent appears to be legit. Here is the granted Patent from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office..discussed in the vid.....

https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...DPN%2F10144532

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What if the alien(s) considers the sensors as an act of war and we all get fried ?
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Now i'm waiting to see the development & testing of a missile that could take down any UFO in our friendly skies..
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What if the alien(s) considers the sensors as an act of war and we all get fried ?
Don't forget....just as you can view the patent for yourself.....so can or should I say, so have probably the Russians, Chinese, and who knows who else...and may actually developed the hardware to produce such a craft, if the U.S. theorizes it may be possible as outlined in the patent.....IMO.

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Now i'm waiting to see the development & testing of a missile that could take down any UFO in our friendly skies..
Perhaps the Hypersonic Missile already in development.....

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/m...onic-missiles/

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Here are other patents by the same inventor Salvatore Cezar Pais ......he probably qualifies as a contemporary Genius

Patent Database Search Results: IN/"Pais, Salvatore" in US Patent Collection

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Infrared Sensors have been around since the F-101 Voodoo.

Nothing new here - carry on.
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Infrared Sensors have been around since the F-101 Voodoo.

Nothing new here - carry on.
You know very well that this post is about the explicit function of the sensors to which the OP is referring to: the locating and tracking of high velocity unidentified flying objects. While I am very proud that you know the history of infrared sensors, your post is condescending and of no benefit to the conversation. Best to "carry on" with your very low post count.
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Don't forget....just as you can view the patent for yourself.....so can or should I say, so have probably the Russians, Chinese, and who knows who else...and may actually developed the hardware to produce such a craft, if the U.S. theorizes it may be possible as outlined in the patent.....IMO.

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I forgot that for you americans alien means anything other than american, my bad.
I mean alien from outer space, a higher form of intelligence therefore a higher chance that they are more technologically advanced than the human species.

And what is this patent mojo ?
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I forgot that for you americans alien means anything other than american, my bad.
I mean alien from outer space, a higher form of intelligence therefore a higher chance that they are more technologically advanced than the human species.

And what is this patent mojo ?
I believe that in order to get government funding, the agency involved would need a patent to procure the funds. But I could be wrong.

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I believe that in order to get government funding, the agency involved would need a patent to procure the funds. But I could be wrong.
The Patents linked in the posts and when read, will show a statement as follows:

STATEMENT OF GOVERNMENT INTERESTS

The invention described herein may be manufactured and used by or for the Government of the United States of America for governmental purposes without payment of any royalties thereon or therefor.

As I read the above statement it appears the Government can develop the technology described in the patent without paying the Inventor any monies. Pretty much...you think it....they take it.


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I believe that in order to get government funding, the agency involved would need a patent to procure the funds. But I could be wrong.

Ok for the patent.
That does not answer my alien ufo concern.
Remember the Airbus composites ?
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You know very well that this post is about the explicit function of the sensors to which the OP is referring to: the locating and tracking of high velocity unidentified flying objects. While I am very proud that you know the history of infrared sensors, your post is condescending and of no benefit to the conversation. Best to "carry on" with your very low post count.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, look no further than the deepest parts of the defense department when considering aliens/UFOs. I’m not saying they exist... I’m just saying that if they do, you’re wasting your time looking anywhere else.
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Quite interesting article......any tool (infrared search and track systems (IRSTs)) that will help to identify unknowns in the sky has to be a good thing....
Nutshell operation of an IRST system..... "The beauty of infrared search and track technology (IRST) technology? It is completely passive and does not highlight the location of the aircraft, unlike when a pilot decides to use the on-board radar, which can give away its position as radiofrequency energy bursts out. IRST can also work in all weather conditions as it uses the infrared rather than the visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

So important is this capability, particularly as China and Russia develop their own stealth aircraft with advanced detection capabilities, that the US is retrofitting many of its advanced fighter aircraft – including the navy’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and the air force’s F-15 Eagle – with an IRST capability. It is hoped that with these new “eyes” Western fighter jets will be able to sense adversary aircraft first and kill them before being seen themselves." ... from.... https://www.airforce-technology.com/...tealth-vision/

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A fake account commenting about fake news and click bait when all their posts have been bait hilarious
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Exactly. Just call them out for what they are, and then they go away.

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Exactly. Just call them out for what they are, and then they go away.

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Exactly. Just call them out for what they are, and then they go away.

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Aw darn. The canker sore came back. I gotta have that looked at....
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You got in before I did Tony but I think this sums it up nicely

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Nah just ignore it, it'll usually go away after a few days
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You got in before I did Tony but I think this sums it up nicely [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/images/smilies/lol.gif[/IMG]

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No one really knows if these are seen in the sky even now ... Hmmmm

Certainly any general population would think UFO's

Got to give it to the German aerospace engineers and scientists of the time for their out-of-the-box thinking ..... way ahead of other countries.



I've actually bought the HO 229 Luft-X when first available but I returned it for quality issues....supposedly the last batch of models addressed collectors complaints. I have just re-ordered it, showing In Stock and crossing my fingers for this to be true. Just like last time, no picture exists, that I have come across, to ever have shown this aircraft with Richthofen shield markings...so these markings remains fantasy on an HO 229.

As for the Haunebu 1.... Next release shipment looks to be Dec 2019...still shows as pre-order on some sites. I'll be ordering it

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From.....The Presidents Secret Book....Michael Schratt

Have you ever seen any of these and thought it was a UFO? Perhaps it's our own, aye?

It's humorous to read the verbiage around some of these aircraft especially the B-2 (better zooming the text of the PDF link http://projectcamelotportal.com/wp-c...edaircraft.pdf)

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And that drawing is 12 years old! Wonder what's been flying since???
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some very interesting shapes
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These triangles from the chart U.S. Fighter Jets Get Infrared Sensors For UFO's-image.jpg may have had there roots in
Lifter Technology U.S. Fighter Jets Get Infrared Sensors For UFO's-image.jpeg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uF8otSSPgdA

.....only now the triangles are fully developed, super sized, and powered to carry humans. Hmmmm....

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This is so cool ........

Orville the mouse, the 1st Worldwide Electronaut - tests by JL Naudin

(Videos are available further down the webpage if you have Real One Player (or equivalent) to view the file format available.)

Yep, this Lifter Technology, scaled up, airframed, and developed with the right power source can possibly carry a human(s)

Certainly, UFO sensors will be needed with Friend or Foe .... so we don't attack our own black projects aircraft....

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Some interesting news....to read over morning Java


Navy's Advanced Aerospace Tech Boss Claims Key 'UFO' Patent Is Operable

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...nt-is-operable

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As for the Haunebu 1.... Next release shipment looks to be Dec 2019...still shows as pre-order on some sites. I'll be ordering it

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I think I have that one in my sights too. Most curious.
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Interesting....

Attended the MCAS Miramar Air Show....watched the guest demo squadron British Red Arrows perform ... It was pretty cool. There were 8 planes used. The British announcer for the team mentioned they would have had a 9th if it wasn't for the fact that a member had to return home because wife was giving birth of his first child. How nice. Anyway it was cloudy and sometimes low ceiling. Because of the weather both the Arrows and Angels flew modified maneuvers. Plan B so to speak.

Between myself and spouse we were shooting up a bunch of pix and vids.

Now for a head scratcher.... while reviewing pix of the Arrows taken by my wife's Samsung phone... Something strange shows up in 2 pix .... the Arrows were banking to the left away from the crowd.....

Notice the bluish sphere/orb whatever... It appears on the pictures to have moved from the left to the right taking in consideration the Arrows banking left and the cloud arrangement in both pix. Left to right for us on the ground is east to west over the airfield. I saw nothing visible myself as I may not have been shooting vids or not paying attention at the time. I heard nothing from crowd members like "did you see that" etc.

It was not raining at the time at all during the Arrows performance, so that removes rain droplets. The pix before and after those two pix show no sphere/orb in the sky. It was not the sun to move side to side. Perhaps a glitch in the camera etc

Don't know what to think.

Some of you know I like to have fun with photoshop...I can assure you, this is not one of the times.

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Here's some zoom....

British Red Arrows and ?

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Maybe a spot on the Lens ?
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Okay few things:


1) The DoD is not required to issue patents in the pursuit of new technologies or the development of new technologies. This is true of whether we are in peacetime or at times of war.


2) The D0D gets its military funding from the Budget Appropriations committee's in Congress. Only they are allowed to determine how much funding each branch of the military will receive thanks to the War Powers Act. Once they have that money, the are free to use any portion of it towards R&D as they see fit.


3) Any Patents that go through the US Patent office are for private enterprise, not the US gov't. The U.S. government is a part of the Public Sector and public sector employees are not allowed to have the sole rights on any kind of developed technology. Even Defense contractors like Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Grumman are public companies and are subject to public funding and are not allowed to have this exclusive secret technology patents that they can then claim copyright in order to nickel and dime anyone who wants to use said technology without their express permission.
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Maybe a spot on the Lens ?
As mentioned not seen on pics before and after those two pics....

Unless it's a randomly, wind blown, almost perfectly spherical speck of dust dirt that attached to the lens of a cellphone camera for the span of time to take two pictures and then be wind blown off without being manually wiped off? I don't have the warm and fuzzy for this possible explanation.....

Perhaps it's shades of the Ol Foo Fighters.....

Ehh who knows?

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Definitely not a lens issue. If it is camera related, then it would be a sensor issue. But since the oddity is not stationary and has moved position from frame to frame, that rules out the sensor. Did your SO film the event as well? It would be nice to have another source for comparison. This is intriguing....
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The following link is to the Red Arrows recent performance in St. Louis. The video itself is outstanding but some people believe there is a UFO spotted streaking past in the video at around the 16:50 mark.

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Definitely not a lens issue. If it is camera related, then it would be a sensor issue. But since the oddity is not stationary and has moved position from frame to frame, that rules out the sensor. Did your SO film the event as well? It would be nice to have another source for comparison. This is intriguing....
It turns out that Fusion Monkey's link provided an answer to the pics I submitted....based on the YouTube vid....it does appear that it's a type of lens reflection or refraction of the sun....mystery solved?

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The following link is to the Red Arrows recent performance in St. Louis. The video itself is outstanding but some people believe there is a UFO spotted streaking past in the video at around the 16:50 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0Ur6rP62U&t=1017s
Aside from birds and bugs....the object in full motion vid appears to me to tumble and dropping. IMO not so much a controlled flight even though the trajectory appears to fall straight down.

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That's hilarious....I found the previous anonomly post #42 pic at vid time point 5:58


Here's the UFO one for 16:50


So there are 2 anomalies in the air at different times in the vid...ha

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Definitely not a lens issue. If it is camera related, then it would be a sensor issue. But since the oddity is not stationary and has moved position from frame to frame, that rules out the sensor. Did your SO film the event as well? It would be nice to have another source for comparison. This is intriguing....
It turns out that Fusion Monkey's link provided an answer to the pics I submitted....based on the YouTube vid....it does appear that it's a type of lens reflection or refraction of the sun....mystery solved?

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Not the same. Your images are indeed lens related. They are artifacts created by sun glare. However, the OP's images are not a sun glare/sun spot. I have been in photography for twenty years and can tell the difference. Also, the images in question were taken on a mostly overcast day. The only thing that causes an oddity like the ball of light would be either a sensor issue, or something passing by in the sky. If it were a sensor issue, then the problem would be consistently in the same spot, like a dead pixel. And even then, the pixel would be barely noticeable because it is so tiny. The sun glare explanation is false because camera lenses are made up of multiple lens elements resulting in a cascading pattern of light as seen in every instance of sun glare. No, it is not sun related. It is not sensor related. It is definitely something moving by. Was the flash being used? Perhaps it illuminated something close to the camera. I am still perplexed.
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That's hilarious....I found the previous anonomly post #42 pic at vid time point 5:58


Here's the UFO one for 16:50


So there are 2 anomalies in the air at different times in the vid...ha

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That was a bird. The entire show had birds, insects, and lens flares. Different circumstance entirely.
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I am still perplexed.
Ok.....then you and me both!

I got no other answers for now other then to chalk it up as unknown.

No, my wife did not use flash on her Samsung S7 cellphone the whole time she was snapping pictures or vids. I was using my mini iPad, nothing on that.

We went to the next day's show...this time the weather was good enough for the normal high altitude maneuver's regular show of both the arrows and blues and what a great show it was. I didn't take any pics or vids...my wife did..i have not yet viewed her latest pics.

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, look no further than the deepest parts of the defense department when considering aliens/UFOs. I’m not saying they exist... I’m just saying that if they do, you’re wasting your time looking anywhere else.
Yeah cos they're in cohorts with our governments. Do the research!
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I don't need convincing! I'm a firm believer in UFO's and the Unknown. So much stuff we humans don't know!
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Yeah cos they're in cohorts with our governments. Do the research!
Here's a what if....

Taking the look of the patented objects views fig.'s 3 and 4...and using let's say fig. 3 .... Now compared to the object in the Navy footage....

Let's say...... As seen, the vid object creates an high energy aura/field. Zoom in and you may see a triangle apex cone shape in the aura/field .... That could be the same triangle apex cone shape on top of the object drawn on the patent (red circle) without of course the energy aura/field drawn in.

Additionally.... The vid object has slight indentations along the bottom, perhaps indicative of the bottom of the patent drawn object (red bracket), again without of course the energy aura/field drawn in.

The profile of the rest of the vid object energy aura/field may be most powerful in everything in between the two points mentioned above...and looking saucerish.

Yeah this is all a stretch of BB's imagination..... ..all speculation of course..but because facts are lacking....this is where the human mind could go with what if's

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