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Old 07-09-2019, 09:26 AM   #1
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a month that will hurt me...
F-4EJ + F-2A gifu + DDR mig-21 !


And fantastic sound with the IDF F-16D...
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The SU-35 is too tempting and cool!
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So, the "Have a Go Jo" elephant was changed from pink to grey?

I have that and the F4-EJ on preorder.

Nice looking barak in november, but really, are we celebrating "UAV Killers" now?
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same for me...lol.. it's a pass.... nothing new and exciting...
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So, the "Have a Go Jo" elephant was changed from pink to grey?
What should it be though ? I know Wittys 1/72 version had a pink elephant. Would be funny if someone got this corrected because there grey in real life and not based on any evidence

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Nice looking barak in november, but really, are we celebrating "UAV Killers" now?
Don't see it as a UAV killer but another IAF F-16, there hasn't been one for awhile. Also note that it's copyrighted 2015 so HM thought about doing this before. There's been a few in the last couple of posters that have been dug up from the not released archives and given a second chance.

I'm surprised no love for the Harrier and F-100, bland as they are, there perfect additions to their respective themes.

But it's also nothing for me. Actually with 2 more posters to go, there's only 2 models (was 3) that I was looking to get, been a quiet year from HM and diecast in general.
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Finally a Falklands war Harrier! That is great news! I will buy it
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Nice looking barak in november, but really, are we celebrating "UAV Killers" now?

Why not ?
Totally in our contemporary history.
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Why not ?
Totally in our contemporary history.
Because shooting down toy aeroplanes is boring.

The Sea Harrier didn't last long. Seems that "the project is postponed until further notice" (whatever that means), pending, at the very least, some actual research.

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Would be Hobby Mater delivering nice and correct models, I´d take as much as 3 items from this poster.
...but:

Flanker 901
I won´t buy this Flanker because of the horrible horizontal front upper/lower division line. I bet HM still has absolutely no clue what's going on and they don´t even understand how big damage they´ve made to Flankers by the decision to make this line horizontal. No buy therefore.


Super Sabre
I still has No HM´s Super Sabre, because this:
https://www.hobbymastercollector.com/files/HA2110-4.jpg

.... is not this:
https://www.museumofaviation.org/wp-...mage003-13.jpg

Simply: Super Sabre from HM is not Super Sabre to me because of that hopelessly wrong intake shape, not speaking about the visible cheapy & childish & toyish blinding wall just behind the air intake entrance (.... carefully hidden (photoshopped?) on most of HMC photos).
https://www.flyingmule.com/img/prd/HM-HA2103_05_lrg.jpg


And the third model?
HA3873 IAF F-16D Barak
I´m still hesitating here. Probably the main and only reason of this release is to make maximum harm to Calibre Wings and deliver this model to the market before CalW do in order to deprive CalW F-16D of this attractive Israeli livery. But if HM succeeds with this trick and Calibre won´t do Israeli F-16D, the only possibility for me will be this release then. I must confess that until now I still don´t have any Israeli F-16 with conformal tanks as the only correct mold on the market so far (HM) has unbelievably bad paint job on both releases, probably one of HM´s worst paintjobs ever with heavy oversprays here and there and two-three completely different shades of brown instead of just one (!). Maybe I´ll send an email to CalW first and ask them about Israeli F-16D, then I decide.
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Yeah, HM's typical blanked off intakes are really nasty. Their F-100 is one of the worst examples. I painted the rear half of the intake interiors black on mine to give an impression of deep shadow.
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Yeah, HM's typical blanked off intakes are really nasty. Their F-100 is one of the worst examples. I painted the rear half of the intake interiors black on mine to give an impression of deep shadow.

Maybe some street 3D painter could also help with the F-100 intake painting
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If HM had painters of that quality it could solve quite a few problems.

Should have mentioned I paint the interior front half NMF (leaving a bit of black for the gun radar), so it looks more like a real intake.

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Old 07-10-2019, 11:17 PM   #15
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I just saw in the HM collector site that the Falklands Harrier has been delayed indefinitely, anyone knows why? ��
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also reported as releasing soon:

- 1/48 checkernose p-47 HA8457 Hobbymaster 1/48th scale P-47D Thunderbolt “Okie” 42-25698, 84th FS, 78th FG, Duxford, May 1944

- 1/48 HA9202 Hobbymaster P-40B Warhawk White 155, 47th PS, 15th PG, Wheeler Field, Hawaii, Dec 7, 1941. Basically same as the previous release but with a different number.

Both are yawners.
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I just saw in the HM collector site that the Falklands Harrier has been delayed indefinitely, anyone knows why? ��

There are several differences between the existent HM SHars and the older generations like the Falklands one, one of which is a different length of fuselage (when the SHars were upgraded to the newer standard there was a fuselage plug installed). So once collectors contacted William and informed HM of the necessary changes, they chose to indefinitely delay it.
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Same ol’, Same ol’........
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Too bad about the Sea Harriers, that was the model that interested me the most. Although, I would want to see the production scheme to see how well HM handled that shade of blue before buying.
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The F15 is the same serial as the Dragon F15/ASAT effort. Which is a bit odd?
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N0 1/200 civilian airliners.
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HM Harrier is probably not going to make it due they will need to really do a entire new mould. Mistake if they don't as they would sell a bunch and could do both Falklands Squadrons with their different paint schemes! HM still doesn't get it on the slip indicator on the nose of Harriers which is a must. Corgi at least has a rather crude attempt on their Harriers. The F-100..Mig17 provable kill, Don Kilguss's aircraft which is a must for VN USAF collectors.
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HM Harrier is probably not going to make it due they will need to really do a entire new mould. Mistake if they don't as they would sell a bunch and could do both Falklands Squadrons with their different paint schemes!
are the corgi's that bad for falklands sea harriers?
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I have both Corgi Harrier versions and happy with them as such. That said , HM could do a better job I am sure and would like to see them press on with their project. They ( HM ) can not seem for some obscure reason to do the relative wind direction indicator on the nose ( can't recall the proper name getting old!) which is a vital tool in the hover.
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And the third model?
HA3873 IAF F-16D Barak
I´m still hesitating here. Probably the main and only reason of this release is to make maximum harm to Calibre Wings and deliver this model to the market before CalW do in order to deprive CalW F-16D of this attractive Israeli livery. But if HM succeeds with this trick and Calibre won´t do Israeli F-16D, the only possibility for me will be this release then. I must confess that until now I still don´t have any Israeli F-16 with conformal tanks as the only correct mold on the market so far (HM) has unbelievably bad paint job on both releases, probably one of HM´s worst paintjobs ever with heavy oversprays here and there and two-three completely different shades of brown instead of just one (!). Maybe I´ll send an email to CalW first and ask them about Israeli F-16D, then I decide.
This is an old idea (dated 2015) so I don't think HM are trying to deprive Calibre of anything and it didn't stop Calibre from re-releasing the Greek Viper or some of their Tomcat schemes. I think this is more a sign of how HM have run out of ideas and their recent desire to alter moulds for niche subjects kinda suggests they will soon end those moulds, while other moulds have been completely ditched without any effort to produce nice schemes or alter the mould.

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I have both Corgi Harrier versions and happy with them as such. That said , HM could do a better job I am sure and would like to see them press on with their project. They ( HM ) can not seem for some obscure reason to do the relative wind direction indicator on the nose ( can't recall the proper name getting old!) which is a vital tool in the hover.
It's the yaw vane and they've had its importance explained to them again. My HM Harriers remain boxed up awaiting modifications. My Corgi's are displayed on their crappy stands.

Corgi's Harriers are pretty accurate within the constraints of the crude toolings. HM Harriers are dreadfully inaccurate but pretty.
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are the corgi's that bad for falklands sea harriers?
Actually no. But the tooling is dated and it does not have the refinement of HM toolings. Of course,...there is no guarantee that HM will deliver a better overall SHAR.

I am not sure who is driving the HM SHAR bus? Whether it is the UK importer (or another UK importer, as it seems there are two now) or Hm itself.

But HM have realised not its not an easy task. And the tooling would be rather constrained unless HM are able to easily modify the tooling for AV8B, F(A).2 and GR1/3.

If they cannot,...then one wonders what is the point of the whole affair??
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Corgi's Harriers are pretty accurate within the constraints of the crude toolings. HM Harriers are dreadfully inaccurate but pretty.
harriers or sea harriers or both?

i am by absolutely no means a harrier expert or even particularly a fan. however, i worked very hands on the actual ZD461 harrier, the subject of HA2604, one or two days per week for about 6 weeks when it was being conserved at hangar 5, duxford where i used to volunteer. I brought in my HM model and took some photos of it with the actual aircraft. Looked good enough for me, but then again I guess I was in a biased position and, again, am not a particular fan of the aircraft type.

my work, incidentally, was the glamorous task of cleaning up the underside of the aircraft. iirc there had been a brake fire or something. i understand that this aircraft now hangs prominently in IWM london where its underside is quite visible to all visitors, so i am happy that my contribution, modest as it was, is at least visible (unlike many of the other conservation tasks that i did in my time there).

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Good for you FS! The fact you are willing to spend time working on aircraft is important.
I have spent the last few years up to now standing around a flying ex US Army AH-1S Cobra
explaining what it is and what it has done to hundreds of folks at various Arizona airshows. Member of ARMY Aviation Heritage Society . I have about 5 hours in a Cobra as opposed to 2000+ in UH-1/OH-58s. That was pretty much a lifetime ago. Yaw Vane Thanks of course I have coffee once a week with a former AV-8A USMC Driver, he would just look at me if I said Slip Indicator !
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This is an old idea (dated 2015) so I don't think HM are trying to deprive Calibre of anything and it didn't stop Calibre from re-releasing the Greek Viper or some of their Tomcat schemes. I think this is more a sign of how HM have run out of ideas and their recent desire to alter moulds for niche subjects kinda suggests they will soon end those moulds, while other moulds have been completely ditched without any effort to produce nice schemes or alter the mould.

Of course it was just my speculation - I don´t even know whether CalW really planned to release Israeli F-16D. So yes, it can be pure coincidence.

But I wouldn´t be surprised if the main reason for HM was to release it before Calibre Wings, no matter which year is the artwork dated. If HM will release this model before CalW do - how many collectors will buy CalW model then?
Two things could change it: CalW would put info about future Israeli model on their facebook - and then some collectors could wait, or CalW would release it only after many many years.

Hobby Master already played this game with SU-34, and seems that very very succesfully as since that time there are absolutely no updates about JCW´s SU-34, it almost seems as if this project would have been be stopped at JCW ....
If so, it would be a real pitty as JCW mold seemed to have much higher standard than that of HM.
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Of course it was just my speculation - I don´t even know whether CalW really planned to release Israeli F-16D. So yes, it can be pure coincidence.

But I wouldn´t be surprised if the main reason for HM was to release it before Calibre Wings, no matter which year is the artwork dated. If HM will release this model before CalW do - how many collectors will buy CalW model then?
Two things could change it: CalW would put info about future Israeli model on their facebook - and then some collectors could wait, or CalW would release it only after many many years.

Hobby Master already played this game with SU-34, and seems that very very succesfully as since that time there are absolutely no updates about JCW´s SU-34, it almost seems as if this project would have been be stopped at JCW ....
If so, it would be a real pitty as JCW mold seemed to have much higher standard than that of HM.
I think your giving HM too much credit Ladia, they can't get their models right, I doubt they could get a devious plan working either or simply too lazy

If there's confidence in Calibre's product, it won't matter what HM do but after reading another review on their FB page, it seems like they still have issues. Hopefully the reason they have delayed everything till next year is because they are looking for a competent factory.

HM did already have their Su-34 mould out well before JCW did, of course there are always games played in this industry, it's why we no longer have Witty but I think in this case, HM were always going to make more Soviet models and this was a logical addition. I agree that JCW's version looks more detailed.

Also it hasn't stopped HM from doing moulds and even schemes Witty did. In a time where the amount of manus has shrunk down to 3, we need more options and abit of competition is a good thing, it might wake HM up and it might get Calibre to improve QC.
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