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Old 07-04-2019, 07:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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uh big mistake? it's a quite strict evaluation.
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Well,..the tooling is done, so it probably cannot be changed.

Either live with it,....or don't.

The colours are fab,..the best yet. Its up to the individual collector.
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As i said here :


https://www.diecastaircraftforum.com...ly-poster.html


Seems to be focused on MLD version flogger K...
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Now I am wondering if that's the actual aircraft,...or it was a later mod.

This aircraft is captioned 55 after the encounter with the F16 fighter.

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From this website.

https://topwar.ru/21611-istrebiteli-...ganistane.html

You will note,...some MIG23s have the notch and some don't,...including the one captioned 55.

Interesting.
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Seems to be focused on MLD version flogger K...
Yeah mate,...noted ya post mate.

I do wonder if it was a mod??
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Well I'll be jiggered. I've never noticed the notches before. I can live without them. Much more concerned about the lack of air to ground ordnance, correct or not.
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This is clearly a huge mistake if HM don't correct this, the dog tooth along with the wing fencers are distinctive features of the MLD, without both present on the model, it's not an MLD.

As you can see, there is nothing obstructing the emblem on the real aircraft and that's because the wing root is much shorter because of the dog tooth.


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You will note,...some MIG23s have the notch and some don't,...including the one captioned 55.

Interesting.
From what I can tell the "fences" are part of the SPS-141 "Lilac" EW system and contain PDP and PPI-50 chaff and flare cartridges. I've seen MiG-23s with notches ("dog teeth") and no Lilac fences, but no fenced and un-notched MiG-23s.

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From what I can tell the "fences" are part of the SPS-141 "Lilac" EW system and contain PDP and PPI-50 chaff and flare cartridges. I've seen MiG-23s with notches ("dog teeth") and no Lilac fences, but no fenced and un-notched MiG-23s.

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I had not noticed the correlation you have mentioned? But you may well be right,...although the photos are poor quality.

I am not sure the notch is that relevant to the positioning of the artwork on the Port side as I would have though,...even with the notch, you would still see some part of the wingroot.

So a couple of issues I guess.
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From what I can tell the "fences" are part of the SPS-141 "Lilac" EW system and contain PDP and PPI-50 chaff and flare cartridges. I've seen MiG-23s with notches ("dog teeth") and no Lilac fences, but no fenced and un-notched MiG-23s.

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Hi, I hear you. Can I be of any help?

Well, lets start with this photo:
(more photos of MiG-23MLD on Prime Portal Walk Around website: MiG-23MLD Flogger K Walk Around Page 1)




In my opinion its definitely another HM release with substantial mistake. How serious mistake? Its everybody´s choice in the end. For me btw this would be a big mistake and reason to omit this release, but many collectors can surely easily live with it. I prefer modeller´s look of diecast models, however it seems that HM tends to go towards the toyish direction of HM models these days.


I can imagine two possible reasons behind this mistake:
  • HM didn´t know about this mistake and then it can have something to do with recent notorical HM´s miserable care about preparation phase (which is very sad because if HM has no time / no will / no money to hire people who really understand airplanes which HM plans to release, they could find literally dozens of collectors who would help them For Free to find possible mistakes in pre-pro phase, just from the love for the hobby).
  • or, HM is well aware about this mistake but in hunt for a profit maximization they simply decided to make this model anyway, no caring how this mistake will be accepted - someone will still buy it.

Anyway its a real shame because the wing root piece is clearly only a small separate part, so HM could:
A/ make new wing root piece with correct shape, or
B/ for this only release could some worker just grind this teeth manually off, or with the help of some easy trivial fixture.


Now the only thing which could really change something is to inform HM imho. And even if it proves to be too late for this release, maybe it can save next MLD release. Or simply only to let HM know that this kind of mistake is already beyond acceptance level for majority of collectors / for the market.

But I see even more issues with this MIG:
- if you look on photos provided by UF you can easily see that on original artwork the left hand´s bandage and bomb in the right hand are of VISIBLY LIGHTER shade of color, while in HM artwork has everything only the background´s blue. This simplification would really annoy me on final model.

- there´s also something wrong with shark mouth and white stars position on HM model. Original has much more space between lowest row of stars and upper line of shark mouth, and also upper line of shark mouth has visibly different shape (original has upper line practically horizontal and almost straight).

... even such a trivial things are problem for HM these days....alarming.
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I can imagine two possible reasons behind this mistake:
  • HM didn´t know about this mistake and then it can have something to do with recent notorical HM´s miserable care about preparation phase (which is very sad because if HM has no time / no will / no money to hire people who really understand airplanes which HM plans to release, they could find literally dozens of collectors who would help them For Free to find possible mistakes in pre-pro phase, just from the love for the hobby).
  • or, HM is well aware about this mistake but in hunt for a profit maximization they simply decided to make this model anyway, no caring how this mistake will be accepted - someone will still buy it.
Thanks. I think it's always been a mixture between those at HM. Pretty much no diecast model is completely accurate, it's always up to the collector to decide which inaccuracies he/she can accept. I'm going to skip this one as well, which is a shame.

I know that one of the drivers of MLD development was manoeuvrability, so I presume that all the "new builds" had dog teeth. I think some earlier versions were modified to MLDs, and I've seen pictures identified as "MLDs" without them. Before I pass this on to William, do you know if there really are MLDs without the notch at the root, if so, did they have the fences/dispensers?

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But I see even more issues with this MIG:
- if you look on photos provided by UF you can easily see that on original artwork the left hand´s bandage and bomb in the right hand are of VISIBLY LIGHTER shade of color, while in HM artwork has everything only the background´s blue. This simplification would really annoy me on final model.
In Immor's photo, you can see that even with age, there's visibly a different tone to each part. HM have again cut corners.

As for the dog tooth, it's a simple fix, I'd even go out as far as saying the reason that section of the wing is a separate part in the first place was probably to allow for changes to the mould for the MLD.

I think they should delay this release and get it right. If Calibre can delay their F-16 for another +6 months without reason, surely HM could do the same for this to correct it.

If it stays like this, it's a pass from me, which is a shame because HM finally did a plausible Soviet camo and this release had model of the year potential.
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This is clearly a huge mistake if HM don't correct this, the dog tooth along with the wing fencers are distinctive features of the MLD, without both present on the model, it's not an MLD.

As you can see, there is nothing obstructing the emblem on the real aircraft and that's because the wing root is much shorter because of the dog tooth.



Found what looks to be original artwork clearly showing the emblem with no overhang

What went wrong??



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Found what looks to be original artwork clearly showing the emblem with no overhang

What went wrong??



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Looks like HM knew about the dog tooth at the start and now ignoring it. Their releases this year are so far behind schedule, I don't know why they bother intentionally making mistakes just to stick to a time table and not like there is a competing MiG-23 mould out there, there's barely a competing manu as it is.
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Thanks. I think it's always been a mixture between those at HM. Pretty much no diecast model is completely accurate, it's always up to the collector to decide which inaccuracies he/she can accept. I'm going to skip this one as well, which is a shame.

I know that one of the drivers of MLD development was manoeuvrability, so I presume that all the "new builds" had dog teeth. I think some earlier versions were modified to MLDs, and I've seen pictures identified as "MLDs" without them. Before I pass this on to William, do you know if there really are MLDs without the notch at the root, if so, did they have the fences/dispensers?

Glad my diecast collecting days are coming to an end.

I´m afraid that this question, as you formulated it, is quite complex and would require a real insider to answer it correctly. At this moment I cannot say that ALL "MLDs" had notches and dispensers, however, because we are discussing "Bort 55" here, maybe we can put this question in slightly different way:

Had "Bort 55" notches at the roots and fences/dispensers?

And when concentrating to "Bort 55" only, most of the photos / decals / kit painting guides speak for both notches and dispensers being present on "Bort 55" in its Bagram days.

And agree with UF:
"dog tooth along with the wing fencers are distinctive features of the MLD, without both present on the model, it's not an MLD"
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Exactly, we are talking about Bort 55 white, that is what HM are doing and that's what the photos have confirmed without a shadow of doubt.

If there were ever any "hybrid" Floggers then perhaps HM can do that next but on this occasion, let's stick to what is accurate for this particular subject.

Also forgot to mention another feature of the MLD was the shorter tail, props to HM for changing this. Also the MLD sat more horizontally on the ground as it was lighter then the M with no change in gear, I think it would of been a long shot to get HM to tweak the gears slightly to reflect this but that's another difference between the MLD and all other Floggers before it.
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If it stays like this, it's a pass from me, which is a shame because HM finally did a plausible Soviet camo and this release had model of the year potential.

Best camo attempt so far for sure. I applaud them as UF you know I've passed up on several releases in the last two years because of it. It did have the potential, Dog tooth or not for me personally as I never noticed this until it was mentioned. The position of the decal underneath the wing overhang bugs the crap out of me.
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I´m afraid that this question, as you formulated it, is quite complex and would require a real insider to answer it correctly. At this moment I cannot say that ALL "MLDs" had notches and dispensers, however, because we are discussing "Bort 55" here, maybe we can put this question in slightly different way:

Had "Bort 55" notches at the roots and fences/dispensers?

And when concentrating to "Bort 55" only, most of the photos / decals / kit painting guides speak for both notches and dispensers being present on "Bort 55" in its Bagram days.

And agree with UF:
"dog tooth along with the wing fencers are distinctive features of the MLD, without both present on the model, it's not an MLD"
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Fair point about solid white 55. However, I can't agree with saying it has to have dog teeth and dispensers to be an MLD. There's plently of dog toothed MLD pictures without the Lilac dispensers. I think they're only fitted for specific threat environments.

Basically I'd like to pass as comprehensive a set of info to HM as possible - once. If I just say "55 is wrong", well yes, but it's just not as compelling an argument for change. Personally, I'm not very interested in Floggers, so I have no desire to spend my time going round in fruitless circles with them on this.
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Managed to answer my own questions and I've emailed William, so fingers crossed. Hopefully this has not already been produced, but . . .

In summary. There were no new build Soviet MLDs. All Soviet MLDs are notched. Most, but not all Soviet MLDs were fitted with the upward firing dispensers. New build export "MLDs" lack the notch and other aerodynamic "improvements".

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I can just say that I really appreciate what you are doing for diecast, Adour - and even for models that you are personally not very interested in. (btw its exactly my case too - personally I´m also not very interested in Floggers ).

And I´m glad that you found answers to your questions about MLD´s dog teeth and dispensers.

The correct sentence should read then:
"... without dog teeth and dispensers it's not correct "Bort 55" MLD"

Really wish your effort turns into better Mig-23 model in HM, Adour.
Its unbelievable that such emails are often regarded by Mr. Iiu as annoying or upsetting, while on the contrary HM should be extremely thankful for them as they are only trying to correct those bloody mistakes which HM is doing in big amounts on their almost EVERY model these days!

But no other way - if we want models without substantial and mainly completely unnecessary mistakes, only sending emails to William can prevent from total disasters and flops.

How difficult it can be to accept for HM that low or declining sales of many HM models are only due to HM´s own mistakes, and wrong decisions that HM has made? (Mig-17s, Migs-25s, F-35 A/B/C, huge list of models/releases, even including Phantoms!).
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Thanks Ladia, it's up to all of us to do what we can if we want better models. The commonly given advice to "vote with your wallet" simply doesn't work. It may feel good, but the message takes too long to get through. If it does at all. It seems that hard core forum accuracy buffs are just not a large enough segment of the customer base.

Back to White 55. I have some good and bad news. First the pill, the model is already produced and boxed in Bangladesh.

Now the silver lining. HM are producing a corrected dog tooth/ notched leading edge root. This will ship to retailers. The idea is that retailers can put them in the boxes when they get them allowing collectors to do the actual correction themselves. This is much like the Cunningham Beaufighter spinners, early Me-110 canopies etc. Whether it actually works like that depends on individual retailers and collectors may have to request the parts from their retailer.

Future MLDs should be correct, but people will have to keep a close eye on pre-pros. HM's track record with parts variation (F-4 wings and stabs, F-111 wings, Invader guns etc) isn't good.

Well done to HM for doing the right thing on White 55 though. Might get this now.

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........."The idea is that retailers can put them in the boxes when they get them allowing collectors to do the actual correction themselves"

HM's FIX sounds like an inconvenience to the retailer and collector....

On the other error of the overhanging the emblem, not mentioned, that I can read in the post from Williams response to Adour, is if the HM corrected dog tooth notch 'area portion' of the replacement wave, will still overhang or not overhang the emblem. In other words, will the FIX make it like the actual aircraft and original HM artwork concerning the emblem portion?

I'll just be curious to see a collectors unboxed pictures when they receive it, correct it, and posted...hopefully.
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Nicely done 1/72 Mig-23MLD Flogger-K 55 White..... R.V. Aircraft brand models.....

Camo pattern not exactly same as HM or maybe even the actual aircraft, nevertheless, well built....




Other pictures to go through for all other angle views are here.....

???????? ???????? : R.V.Aircraft 1/72 ???-23???

Ya know, IMO, HM's Fix is you the collector having to Code3 it if you want the dog tooth notch....

How does anyone envision, by steps, how the HM solution is to be implemented. Speculate the procedure if you will....

So far as I see it...to notch it, is to remove material...I.e. Cut, file, saw near enough to damage the side of the fuselage in the process for the inexperienced.
And then have to attach the HM provided portion with glue etc.

Or will HM provide portions of the notched wing root that requires some disassembly...and re-assembly of the wings

I don't see this as a smooth process.....

If I was to get this plane, I would wait and request from the retailer to just send the future corrected by HM version or all bets are off...and take a pass on buying the model.

Any speculation on possibly having to Code3 this to correct it with HM provided piece parts?

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Are they replacing just the edge of the wing root or the entire intake piece along with dog tooth ?

The former would cause more harm to the model then the mistake itself. If it's the entire intake, that would be really good and I see this working.
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Decided to add the HA5310 Mig-23MLD drawing here as well...not yet shown on release poster or at HobbyMasterCollector as of the date and time of this posting.

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Decided to add the HA5310 Mig-23MLD drawing here as well...not yet shown on release poster or at HobbyMasterCollector as of the date and time of this posting.

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It was not on the initial release poster,...but was added to the Oct 19 poster in Aug 19 and was added to Hobbymaster collector and was a news item on that website in Aug.

Still,...its an odd one. The release is now available to the Asian retailers but HM have not released a pre-pro or the final product pictures.
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It was not on the initial release poster,...but was added to the Oct 19 poster in Aug 19 and was added to Hobbymaster collector and was a news item on that website in Aug.

Still,...its an odd one. The release is now available to the Asian retailers but HM have not released a pre-pro or the final product pictures.
Yeah...ok about most of what you said...except for the "posters" ....

I must be going blind, because I did not see that particular scheme in all of 2019 posters....nevertheless another shark mouth to be produced...

Planes with shark mouths could be a theme on to itself for a collection

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Yeah...ok about most of what you said...except for the "posters" ....

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Perhaps I misspoke. It was added to the Oct release schedule in Aug,...after the poster was released. Posters is a term I utilise with HM like catalogue for Corgi.

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Perhaps I misspoke. It was added to the Oct release schedule in Aug,...after the poster was released. Posters is a term I utilise with HM like catalogue for Corgi.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Hey LFT are those fires down under affecting you?

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Hey LFT are those fires down under affecting you?

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Not directly. But the smoke in the Sydney basin has been pretty awful on occasion. Its keeping me busy at work too.
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Not directly. But the smoke in the Sydney basin has been pretty awful on occasion. Its keeping me busy at work too.
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Here comes 5311 the Chzech Air Force.
Hope to see a Bulgarian Air force MLD cammo too. It will be a definate buy.



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Still waiting on my Cuban MiG 23. This is a no brainer and one HM can get right. The MiG 21 was a great release imo.


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Hi guys, does any of you know if this mistake of HM MiG-23MLD wing root has been corrected? Today I saw a picture of HA5310 which shows the correct "notched" wing root (as this is my firt post, I am not allowed to put the picture or the link where I found it).

Now, my problem is: if I am going to buy online, how do I know if I am getting a model with the mistake, or already corrected? Does anyone know if there is a batch or production date which allows me to identify? Thanks!
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OUT of the box pics should answer your concern.



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Obviously, HM HA3510 pre-pros pictures doesn't help. Why can't they update them with the corrected photos.
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Thanks kltower! When did you buy it? I am just afraid that, if I buy online (many sellers use HM pictures and not ones from the actual product they have) I will get an early batch with wrong roots. Perhaps I may need to ask them to send a picture of the actual model. Is it possible to see this part of the model without opening the box?
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I guess that the same correction was also applied to HA5309, which is the model I am interested in...
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No Carlo, HA5310 is shipped with the corrected wing root.

Read: https://modelhangar3.com/thread/1130...dron-aggressor). OR

Watch this video https://vimeo.com/387245982

But for HA5309, HM provides you with the the little modules for you to do your own corrections.

If you have any doubt ask the seller to provide you with a photo of the model in the box.

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Just my two cents, but the Mig-23 has so many variants and country-specific modifications it’s almost impossible to be “accurate”. The Iraqi versions carried Exocet missiles!

The MLD is a good example- changes were made to the pitot tube and wing roots to address the aircrafts rudder blankout issues at high AOA. That meant pre-MLD Floggers couldn’t pitch too far or they’d spin. Which would wreck the engine and your prospects for a safe landing. Post MLD Floggers could apparently turn well enough to dogfight an F-14 , which is preposterously unlikely with the previous versions.

Those changes aren’t noticeable, especially with the period photos of the time. I’d cut HM some slack on this one. I have an MLD with the ML-style regular wing roots and it doesn’t bother me. These planes are like kit cars of the Soviet Bloc, everybody’s got a one off version.
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I understand your point, but I don't agree. I really like the Flogger, especially the late air superiority versions (ML/P/MLD). For me the notched wing root is the most defining characteristic of the MLD and I wouldn't buy a model of this version without it. But as others said, it is up to the collector, and it is not to me to convince anyone to adopt my opinion. If someone has no problem and thinks it is an insignificant detail then great, enjoy your kit.
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