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Old 05-24-2019, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I´m happy I resisted the HA6301 as this SU-34 looks to be even nicer and more accurate than the first release. Especially because of the bort numbers in correct thickness as shows HA6303 artwork. And since bort numbers thickness was remedied already on HA6302, it looks like both numbers will be Ok also on HA6303.

Anyway it would be nice if HM could still make some touches:

1. Windscreen profile
This is actually the most serious mistake of HM SU-34 tooling imho (the front pitot tube angle, I believe, can be corrected with hot water). Windscreen profile should be flat while HM windshield does look rounded and bulbous, making HM SU-34 looking a bit fatty. I´m afraid this is not going to happen but it would be nice if HM could correct the windscreen. This would greatly improve SU-34´s overall appearance.
(As we know, JCWings canopy profile is correct and so their SU-34 prototype looks as slim as the real aircraft from the side view).

Artwork shows both windscreens: HM windscreen (thin outline) and the correct shape (blurred outline)

(Hope DAC resizing works, BB. If not, let me know and I´ll resize the artwork on my side.)







2. Front antiglare panel
Black antiglare panel on HM SU-34s is unfortunately narrower on both sides then original. Black borderline should run directly through the retracted refuelling probe (right through the centre of the probe), while on the HA6301 the antiglare panel runs only ABOVE the refuelling probe. Wrong panel borderline shows also HM artwork. Would be nice if HM could correctly extend the black antiglare panel on each side. This shouldn´t be expensive modification.






3. „Danger, Jet Intake" tampos - missing white letterings
This HA6301 mistake was corrected already on HA6302A/B. But from some reason there´s again missing white lettering on HA6303 artwork, both on larger front and smaller rear warning triangles.


4. Titanium horizontal tails
There´s one really noticeable difference between „Oleg Peshkov“ and HA6301: „Oleg Peshkov" has titanium surface on horizontal tails, similar to SU-35. HM should paint HA6303 tails to mimic titanium panels, both from top sides and from below.






5. Painted leading edge tips
All HM SU-35s have extra painted Leading edge tips: on the wings, on LERXes and on horizontal tails. As SU-34 is similarly important aircraft, it would be logical for HM to paint SU-34 with the same level of detail - Painted leading edge tips on the wings, canards, LERXes and horizontal tails (from top sides and from below). (HA6301 has painted Leading edge tips only on horizontal tails)






6. Bort numbers
As said, HA6301´s thin bort numbers were remedied on HA6302 already, and HA6303 artwork looks to have them correct too - both in thickness and correct (horizontal) placing. So hope numbers will be nidely thick and bold.


Except for the canopy shape (to make HM to correct this would probably require a LOT of inputs from collectors), other points are just paint-related, so probably easy to correct. The only thing is, if people HM are aware of those mistakes / shortcomings / improvements. Anyway looking forward to nice and decent model.

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Thank you for another well detailed and informative observation, this sort of invaluable contribution is always appreciated.

This is one Su-34 release that I'm seriously considering as my one and only Fullback in my collection.

It's interesting to note that the drawing is marked as copyright 2018, maybe there is hope that it has been rectified and this is simply an old drawing of a release they held back on till now.

I noticed the same with the next desert Eagle, dated as 2017 and that drawing is absolute rubbish
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Good points Ladia on the Titanium (or is it steel?) tailplane panels and wing leading edges. Do you mind if I send William your pictures? On the windshield (which he already declined to change), thankfully I find it hardly noticeable when the model is actually in hand. Certainly much less obvious than in pictures.

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I had a reply back from William on this. The anti-glare on the nose, intake warning signs and bare metal on the tailplanes will be corrected. Now, that doesn't mean the end result will be perfect, but the intention is there.
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Great news, Adour! Thanks for pleasing news and also for your input.

Its nice to hear that HM are making efforts to improve their fourth SU-34 to deliver the best possible final product.
I´m particularly happy about correcting anti-glare panel on the nose, about intake warning signs and about bare metal on the tailplanes .

Fingers crossed these changes and improvements will really be implemented, not only promised. They for sure will translate into good sales of HA6303!
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Thanks for the info Ladia. It's nice when a manufacturer listens.
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Good news about this release, it will be spilt into 2, no changes to the scheme but different weapon and wing tip configuration depending on the release.

HA6303 Will depict the aircraft as it was in 2016 with wing tip jamming pods and cluster bombs

HA6303B Will depict the aircraft as it was in 2017 with wing tip R-73 missiles, as well as Kh-31 anti-ship missiles

This should keep everybody happy. Personally I like the version with cluster bombs. HM pretty much had to invest more into weapons given the competition from JCW (direct competing Fullback) and Calibre.

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Not sure if HM knows what the cluster means and I hope it's not another lazy effort. JCW and calibre have already shown us they can do it.


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Even when HA6303 looks substantially better then HA6301 with corrected paintjob and improved tampos, there are still several serious points that need to be addressed:

Because of urgency, lack of time and required efforts to make modifications No. 1 and 2., it would be good if collectors that are concerned would send ASAP their emails to William ([email protected] or [email protected]). Would be also nice if collectors who are members of both diecast forums would bring this matter to collectors on other forum to join the forces. I can very well imagine that HM will tend to do nothing...


1. Necessary to add:
This is absolutely typical for „Олег Пешков" SU-34 but missing on HA6303 Pre-pro:
quite large front-facing antenna in front of the canopy.

This antenna is very prominent, larger than F- 14 pitot, is about 70% of the size of the front pitot tube and is way bigger than the small ice detector probe on the right side in front of the canopy which is already present on the model, and therefore should be definitely on the model too. If you look on photos of „Олег Пешков" (RF-95841), you´ll quickly find out that without this antenna „Олег Пешков" is not an „Олег Пешков".


https://www.airplane-pictures.net/ph...-sukhoi-su-34/
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Russ...u-34/4576785/L
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Russ...u-34/2721967/L
https://wallhere.com/en/wallpaper/108080



2. Wing fences
RF-95841 "Олег Пешков" has (… always had) wing fences on topsides of the wings (wing fences already has HA6302 model). This version of SU-34 simply has wings fences:


(Note: there are many „Олег Пешков" photos on the web seemingly without wing fences, but this is only because on these photos are wing fences just hidden behind the EMC pods from that particular camera angle):




3. Anti glare panel bottom line is wavy on pre-production photos
Hoping its just an interim issue known at HM, anyway on the pre-production photos the anti glare panel bottom line is terribly wavy from the right side (left side is Ok):

https://www.airplane-pictures.net/ph...-sukhoi-su-34/


4. Tampos on topsides
On topsides there are missing some bold tampos and area around canon is wrong, see pictures below and above. Most wrong is metal plate around the cannon, which should lead all way up to the LERX edge. Tiny “red crosses” should be also on rudders (R+L side, from outsides and on insides) and below vertical stabs. Also unpainted rectangular engine covers between tails are missing. HM also omitted to paint leading edges even when they are quite bold on real aircraft (… are not only thin lines). This goes for leading edges on the wings, canards, LERXes and horizontal tails.

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Not sure if HM knows what the cluster means and I hope it's not another lazy effort. JCW and calibre have already shown us they can do it.


they have all skimmed out and being cheap on weapon loads, HM, corgi, etc...

like they never want to do a fully loaded plane with multi weapon pylons....

the earlier A-10 HM models have multi bomb racks in the center and multi maverick racks on the wings. The later models have single bombs in the center and single maverick pylons on the wings.

Same thing with corgi, they release ONE EXACTLY ONE eurofighter with all wing pylons loaded (while still cheap out by only loading it with 1 amraam on the fuselage).

I tell you, these manufacturers just don't care!
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Yeah, it's far from perfect. According to William this has already been produced, although on further investigation it's not quite that simple. When looking at HM's Fullback, you have to bear in mind that the kits used by them are basically Su-32FNs. Although most folks think of them as being the same types, there are visible differences. AFIK, pointing these out has pretty much been down to collector input.

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Even when HA6303 looks substantially better then HA6301 with corrected paintjob and improved tampos, there are still several serious points that need to be addressed:

Because of urgency, lack of time and required efforts to make modifications No. 1 and 2., it would be good if collectors that are concerned would send ASAP their emails to William ([email protected] or [email protected]). Would be also nice if collectors who are members of both diecast forums would bring this matter to collectors on other forum to join the forces. I can very well imagine that HM will tend to do nothing...

1. Necessary to add:
This is absolutely typical for „Олег Пешков" SU-34 but missing on HA6303 Pre-pro:
quite large front-facing antenna in front of the canopy.

This antenna is very prominent, larger than F- 14 pitot, is about 70% of the size of the front pitot tube and is way bigger than the small ice detector probe on the right side in front of the canopy which is already present on the model, and therefore should be definitely on the model too. If you look on photos of „Олег Пешков" (RF-95841), you´ll quickly find out that without this antenna „Олег Пешков" is not an „Олег Пешков".
This aerial appears on the nose of other Su-34s from about 2012 onwards, not just "Олег". It does not feature on the Su-32FN, and no-one picked it up on the tooling first shots. A tooling mod is required for the current service standard. This is the manufacturer that has seen fit to release 29 Harrier family members with no fricking yaw vanes. Does the Fullback have 29 releases in its future? I don't think so. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for HM on this.


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2. Wing fences
RF-95841 "Олег Пешков" has (… always had) wing fences on topsides of the wings (wing fences already has HA6302 model). This version of SU-34 simply has wings fences:

(Note: there are many „Олег Пешков" photos on the web seemingly without wing fences, but this is only because on these photos are wing fences just hidden behind the EMC pods from that particular camera angle)
Positive news, HM have acknowledged their error and are "reproducing" the wings to fix it.


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3. Anti glare panel bottom line is wavy on pre-production photos
Hoping its just an interim issue known at HM, anyway on the pre-production photos the anti glare panel bottom line is terribly wavy from the right side (left side is Ok):
Hopefully they've noticed but . . .
If not, it's an easy self-fix or just tell yourself it's weathered.
No really, relatively recent shots of "Олег" show significant weathering and hence a wavey appearance.

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4. Tampos on topsides
On topsides there are missing some bold tampos and area around canon is wrong, see pictures below and above. Most wrong is metal plate around the cannon, which should lead all way up to the LERX edge. Tiny “red crosses” should be also on rudders (R+L side, from outsides and on insides) and below vertical stabs. Also unpainted rectangular engine covers between tails are missing. HM also omitted to paint leading edges even when they are quite bold on real aircraft (… are not only thin lines). This goes for leading edges on the wings, canards, LERXes and horizontal tails.
Well yes, HM's reluctance to add extra tampos to models is legendary. One may as well ask for more cluster bombs. The bare metal around the cannon pretty much matches early FNs. It seems the Su-34 fleet was modified from about 2013 onwards. Why they're willing to paint some of the Su-33's leading edges but not those of the Su-34 is unfathomable to me.

People looking for changes on this need to be super quick.

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they have all skimmed out and being cheap on weapon loads, HM, corgi, etc...

like they never want to do a fully loaded plane with multi weapon pylons....
You might not like this but I would like to see manus like HM offer empty stations as well as maxed out. Give the collector the option to display it like it was or might be on operations or armed to the teeth maxed out.

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the earlier A-10 HM models have multi bomb racks in the center and multi maverick racks on the wings. The later models have single bombs in the center and single maverick pylons on the wings.
I believe the later configuration is accurate. HM even did 2 runs of weapons packs (grey and euro camo) so that collectors could reconfigure their earlier A-10 releases. That shows you how they were more committed in the early days.

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Same thing with corgi, they release ONE EXACTLY ONE eurofighter with all wing pylons loaded (while still cheap out by only loading it with 1 amraam on the fuselage).

I tell you, these manufacturers just don't care!
Well lucky for you, you can forget about those Corgi toys or overpriced Witty rebrands from Herpa since HM have gone all out with their E2K options, whether you get them all with each model is another story.

It's true HM cares less about their products then they did at the start, pretty sure each manu has or will be like that, it's common practice to go all out when starting up and then reduce quality and quantity once they have an established foot hold in the market.

Once you see how many details HM omits from their models, the amount of weapons you get doesn't seem that important. And remember, people used to go cuckoo cuckoo for Gaincorp Fullbacks and they didn't have any of these details either and the weapons looked like they belonged on a pull back toy.

Out of all this, the biggest disappointment is the lack of silver details on the edges and the gun port, if only because they could do it for the Su-35 but got lazy with the Fullback.

Also HM have hit hard times with some of their moulds due to poor scheme selection and lower then expected sales, it doesn't surprise me they won't invest abit if time and money into moulds that are near the end of its usefulness.

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......Last edited by Adour; Yesterday at 11:29 PM. Reason: More cynicism. Nice touch. You´ve nailed it, Adour!

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yeah, it's far from perfect. According to william this has already been produced, although on further investigation it's not quite that simple. When looking at hm's fullback, you have to bear in mind that the kits used by them are basically su-32fns. Although most folks think of them as being the same types, there are visible differences. Afik, pointing these out has pretty much been down to collector input.

This aerial appears on the nose of other su-34s from about 2012 onwards, not just "Олег". It does not feature on the su-32fn, and no-one picked it up on the tooling first shots. A tooling mod is required for the current service standard. This is the manufacturer that has seen fit to release 29 harrier family members with no fricking yaw vanes. Does the fullback have 29 releases in its future? I don't think so. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for hm on this.
Are you planning to inform William at least about the most serious mistakes of HA6303? I mean the antenna and wavy antiglare panel? Even if you have no such plans - can you inform him anyway?

To be honest HM did tweaked this release compared to the first syrian Fullback + they added some tampos. But missing antenna, wavy antiglare panel and wrong metal panels around the canon really cry for correction!

HM could even make this antenna as a separate part for next SU-34 releases and deliver to who´ll ask for it via vendors, no tooling mod needed in this case. I think it would be possible just to superglue it, in emergency even Elmers white could do the job imho. If the antenna would be sourced by HM, careful glueing wouldn´t mean collecting price / value drop of this model subsequently equipped with original HM antenna.



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Positive news, hm have acknowledged their error and are "reproducing" the wings to fix it.
Good news. Anyway if HM are able to fix wing fences even now, then its only up to us collectors to make pressure on HM as missing front antenna is same big mistake as missing wing fences.
HM really should make every effort to add this antenna to this release !!



Wavy anti glare panel
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Hopefully they've noticed but . . .
If not, it's an easy self-fix or just tell yourself it's weathered.
No really, relatively recent shots of "Олег" show significant weathering and hence a wavey appearance.
Probably only heavy drinking would bring me to think that such wavy anti glare panel is only weathered. But I´m not planning to drink only to be able to look on my HM models. I tell you - if this is the final spec of anti glare panel, its definitely a deal-breaker for me and reason to write something very bad to HM. If HM is no more capable to make stupid simple outline straight, on flat uncomplicated surface, then they shouldn´t make any models more.

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Well yes, hm's reluctance to add extra tampos to models is legendary. One may as well ask for more cluster bombs. The bare metal around the cannon pretty much matches early fns. It seems the su-34 fleet was modified from about 2013 onwards. Why they're willing to paint some of the su-33's leading edges but not those of the su-34 is unfathomable to me.

People looking for changes on this need to be super quick.
Absolutely true.
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You might not like this but I would like to see manus like HM offer empty stations as well as maxed out. Give the collector the option to display it like it was or might be on operations or armed to the teeth maxed out.



I believe the later configuration is accurate. HM even did 2 runs of weapons packs (grey and euro camo) so that collectors could reconfigure their earlier A-10 releases. That shows you how they were more committed in the early days.



Well lucky for you, you can forget about those Corgi toys or overpriced Witty rebrands from Herpa since HM have gone all out with their E2K options, whether you get them all with each model is another story.

It's true HM cares less about their products then they did at the start, pretty sure each manu has or will be like that, it's common practice to go all out when starting up and then reduce quality and quantity once they have an established foot hold in the market.

Once you see how many details HM omits from their models, the amount of weapons you get doesn't seem that important. And remember, people used to go cuckoo cuckoo for Gaincorp Fullbacks and they didn't have any of these details either and the weapons looked like they belonged on a pull back toy.

Out of all this, the biggest disappointment is the lack of silver details on the edges and the gun port, if only because they could do it for the Su-35 but got lazy with the Fullback.

Also HM have hit hard times with some of their moulds due to poor scheme selection and lower then expected sales, it doesn't surprise me they won't invest abit if time and money into moulds that are near the end of its usefulness.
Note that the A-10 reconfigured weapon pack is to go to less weapons, not more when compared to the old one ....lol.... there is no addon pack for the later a-10 to go to more weapons

i like all mine to be fully loaded..... if i want less weapons i can always carefully rip the weapons off the pylons, but i can't as very easily add back more weapons out of thin air......

well, i hope hm will do the eurofighter justice. I am kinda sick of what corgi did to their eurofighter. the only good ver was the aa36406 which has all the wing pylons available and removable. all the other corgi eurofighters are crap as they completely block out the wings so you don't even have the option to attach additional pylon and weapons even if you can get them....

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Are you planning to inform William at least about the most serious mistakes of HA6303? I mean the antenna and wavy antiglare panel? Even if you have no such plans - can you inform him anyway?

To be honest HM did tweaked this release compared to the first syrian Fullback + they added some tampos. But missing antenna, wavy antiglare panel and wrong metal panels around the canon really cry for correction!

HM could even make this antenna as a separate part for next SU-34 releases and deliver to who´ll ask for it via vendors, no tooling mod needed in this case. I think it would be possible just to superglue it, in emergency even Elmers white could do the job imho. If the antenna would be sourced by HM, careful glueing wouldn´t mean collecting price / value drop of this model subsequently equipped with original HM antenna.
Yup, I've let him know.

Here's how the anti-glare looked on "Олег" last year:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Russ...kB724t9w%3D%3D
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The anti-glare should be corrected. The "gun panel" is being looked at. The aerial won't be provided since they have no part to copy. With similar aerials already missing on the fins, I'm not personally that bothered.
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Thanks for positive news, Adour!
Another small step forward. But I´m really confused about the antenna.

Why am I confused? HM actually doesn´t need to copy any antenna for SU-34! - they already have them !!!
Don´t HM know their own production? HM already has antenna which can be easily used for SU-34. This antenna is already developed, tooled, maybe even produced and painted - ready to attach to the model!

Yes, there is 1/48 SU-34 plastic kit by Kitty Hawk (KH80141) from which this antenna can be scaled down and copied, but those tiny "wings" are difficult or practically impossible to replicate in 72scale with satisfactory result. So firstly I tried to copy, paste and slightly modify HM´s SU-34 back-up (side) pitot tube in photoshop to resemble front antenna - and got good result.



And then I´ve got it: HM already has antenna which perfectly fits to SU-34 - front antenna from MIG-23 !

I jumped on photoshop once again and voilà - here´s the result!:



So everything HM needs to do is to decide which of two MIG-23 front antennas (upper or lower) better fits to SU-34 and just put it to the model! Easy and simple solution with almost no effort ....

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Purely theoretically - making the front part of the antenna only as a straight piece, without the tiny "wings", is bit of simplification. But trying to replicate these wings in 72 scale would probably result into something close to SU-25 front thingy.
Exactly same antenna as in the front has SU-34 also on rear tails and also these antennas has HM made only schematically - no one complains. Therefore I believe using Mig-23 antenna on "Oleg Peschkov" (and all future SU-34s) is optimal/ideal solution imho.
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. . . everything HM needs to do is to decide which of two MIG-23 front antennas (upper or lower) better fits to SU-34 and just put it to the model! Easy and simple solution with almost no effort ....

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Purely theoretically - making the front part of the antenna only as a straight piece, without the tiny "wings", is bit of simplification. But trying to replicate these wings in 72 scale would probably result into something close to SU-25 front thingy.
Exactly same antenna as in the front has SU-34 also on rear tails and also these antennas has HM made only schematically - no one complains. Therefore I believe using Mig-23 antenna on "Oleg Peschkov" (and all future SU-34s) is optimal/ideal solution imho.
I don't think the point is how it could be done, I think the point is they don't want to do it at all. Then again sometimes HM says no but changes its mind.

Aerials and probes are a PITA for manufactures. Most collectors only notice them if they're broken and they have to return a model. They all simplify them and leave some out. This Su-34 is already missing loads of aerials from the fins, unpainted datalink aerials, missing α and β vanes etc. If they only do early Su-34s after this (might want to use those unfenced wings) they won't even need it again.

It will need some weight of collector requests to change their opinion of the need to provide what to them is just another breakable sticky out bit.

Some battles with HM just aren't worth fighting. Personally I'm not going to die in a ditch over an aerial and loose any opportunity to get more important stuff done. Even if I did, people would still moan that they're not buying it because it doesn't have enough bombs, the canards don't move, the compressor blades don't spin or any of a million other "defects" that distinguish it from a real aeroplane. Heck, I'm not even planning to get this, no room for it. Each to their own.

Others are more than welcome to have a go.

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Thanks for posting. Thicker bort numbers look much better.
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Thanks for the pictures. Not too bad. Looks like the bort numbers, anti-glare, gun panel, tailplanes and fences have been corrected.

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Sorry to interject politics into this, but the plane is named after oleg peshkov, the su24 pilot that was killed in syria because his jet had violated turkish airspace (an overall action that russia lied about endlessly after the fact -what else is new). Anyway, the guy violated airspace, his aircraft was hit, he ejected, and then either on the way down or shortly after landing he was killed by small arms fire. Sad personally for him and his family, to be sure. But then - Russia gave him their highest military honor - the order of the russian federation. Say what you will about America or any other country losing its way in recent times, but no country that I know of has so cheapened its most prestigious military honors as russia has. can you imagine, for example, if the US awarded the MoH for an equivalent action? It'd be a scandal.
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