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Old 01-22-2019, 07:51 PM   #1
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Honestly didn't know Syria had an air force.
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So, the yardstick is conducting operations apparently,...although its hard to tell by the preamble which is a bit all over the place.

Whilst Canada does have its problems,....it has in fact conducted successful operations globally for a number of decades. So I am not sure that should be on top in the top 10.

Neither should Saudi Arabia. Its a well trained Air Force with the most up to date equipment and well resourced. The air operations against Houthi rebels (or freedom fighters depending on what you believe) is a pointer to the limits of air power, particularly as its conducting the operations independently. Saudi Arabia is not on its pat-malone killing innocent civilians.

And China,...really??

Interesting, certainly worthy of thought and discussion, but I don't agree with much of what he says.
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although its hard to tell by the preamble which is a bit all over the place.....but I don't agree with much of what he says.
I'm with you on that.

If you subscribe to a David and Goliath notion, then you have say, that for 2018, there were no wars or skirmishes in which one can base and generate a worst list of 10. I would have to take into account and include kills during active warfare...i.e. Air to air and air to ground kill ratios. Logistic and peacetime operations are not to be sole qualifiers IMO. In any year in any warfare, opponents should never be underestimated to be the worst. As some would say....you only need one good shot to change the balance of war.

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Interesting and fair enough.

I guess my view is slightly different. I tend to see Military Power in the context of: can it achieve the Strategic Goals set out by its political leaders.

Sometimes the Strategic intent of a Government can suddenly change due to geo-political circumstances, which thereby one can ask and judge: can a military force adapt to the changing nature of Government priorities?
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Canada: not really accurate regarding jet fighters.

China: not so many verified informations are available. Quantity yes, but quality not sure indeed.

Greece: agreed for budget and pilots training. But the Mirage 2000-5 is still not "antiquated"...

Iran/Ukraine/Pakistan: agreed.

Mexico / North Korea / Syria: I haven't got a clu.

Saudi Arabia: disagreed. They mix air force and political issues. Morever, they confound a F-16 and a Typhoon (see picture)...
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I'm with you on that.

If you subscribe to a David and Goliath notion, then you have say, that for 2018, there were no wars or skirmishes in which one can base and generate a worst list of 10. I would have to take into account and include kills during active warfare...i.e. Air to air and air to ground kill ratios. Logistic and peacetime operations are not to be sole qualifiers IMO. In any year in any warfare, opponents should never be underestimated to be the worst. As some would say....you only need one good shot to change the balance of war.

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most of the world may be oblivious to what''s been going on, but the syrian civil war has been ongoing since 2011, not that anybody cares since syria isn't exactly a major oil producer. and that, my friend, has a very high air to ground kill ratios. sadly, mostly civilian casualties.
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This article is pure click bait that can't be taken seriously. Wheres Albania or Mongolia or Congo just to name a few, it's not really a list of "the" worst, most of Africa's nations could fill up this top 10.

Canada appearing on this list is a joke, why, because they wouldn't buy F-35s?
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This article is pure click bait that can't be taken seriously. Wheres Albania or Mongolia or Congo just to name a few, it's not really a list of "the" worst, most of Africa's nations could fill up this top 10.

Canada appearing on this list is a joke, why, because they wouldn't buy F-35s?
because africans are too busy fighting themselves, that's why.
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Some Air Forces are indeed more for show than action, so when push comes to shove i don't think certain Air Forces could do the job of defending their air space & fight of the intruders..
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Some Air Forces are indeed more for show than action, so when push comes to shove i don't think certain Air Forces could do the job of defending their air space & fight of the intruders..
yes, many elements come into play to make an airforce formidable, not just the latest tech and sharpest pilot. never discount the excellent mostly unseen work of the ground crew in maintaining and ensuring everything works as it should, and to ensure no shortage of vital parts. even the tarmac needs proper upkeep. and then there's a multitude of support... in the air and on the ground. they all work in tandem. and a country's budget constraints/proritisation also plays a part. it's always a cost vs risk analysis. as a general and potus once said,

"every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in*the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. this world in arms is not spending money alone. it is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. this is not a way of life at all in any true sense. under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."
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Pretty much total BS and the writer does not seem to be up to date on US Intel Reports.
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