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Old 01-11-2019, 12:37 PM   #1
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Already looks better than the Corgi 1/72. This could be a real sleeper for HM. I think that they'll be able to peddle several different versions from the three AVG squadrons. The Russians used the P-40B, as did the UK/CW air forces. Looks like a winner to me.


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Itll be a decemt but lower quality version of what carousel1 did a decade ago. Booooooring.
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And I quote verbatim in regards to HM's scale choice for the P-40:

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Plenty of decent p-40s around from corgi and pther manufs. gaping hole in the 1/48 market. would go well with other 1/48 releases. terrible scale choice imho. i wont be getting any.
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And I quote verbatim in regards to HM's scale choice for the P-40:
Looks like the usual idiot is unable to differentiate between p40 versions. Did gladly take a p40 N in 1/48. N, you goddam idiot.

Seriously, idiot. You add nothing to this forum. Go away.
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Looks like the usual idiot is unable to differentiate between p40 versions. Did gladly take a p40 N in 1/48. N, you goddam idiot.

Seriously, idiot. You add nothing to this forum. Go away.
Sure donkey, gez your such an idiot, always an excuse from you, you know what, go over to MH3 (yep you heard right PBR) then you can jerk as much as you like about crap you want made but never would buy

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I think that this would make for a lovely diecast model:


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Sure donkey, gez your such an idiot, always an excuse from you, you know what, go over to MH3 (yep you heard right PBR) then you can jerk as much as you like about crap you want made but never would buy

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Well, he can tell the difference between the P40B and P40N for a start. So that's helpful. So its obvious who has the double figure IQ in this place. Christ, look at the above post,...what are you, a 5 year old??

You just got caught out lying,...…...again, because you cannot help yourself and you must just spit bile to satisfy whatever selfish craving you have. Look how stupid and inane you are. You spew so much BS, you clearly are so thick and wrong and you are barely capable of acknowledging decency, let alone practice it.

Of course you had to bring me and another forum into it. You just do everything you can to show the differences between the Military Section on DA.C and Model Hanger III. Your bile and rank stupidity is what this place is known for.

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I would swear I was visiting a diecast forum, but somehow I've landed in a YouTube comment section.
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I think that this would make for a lovely diecast model
i agree. and the soviets using american tech makes it all the more interesting. hm does seem to make their 48s top notch and this is one mould i look forward to.
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I would swear I was visiting a diecast forum, but somehow I've landed in a YouTube comment section.
This part of DAC isn't a 'normal diecast forum' - it's a laughing stock & a place where normal collectors come to laugh at the comments from the pathetic troll that lurks within, Ukrainian_flog.

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i agree. and the soviets using american tech makes it all the more interesting. hm does seem to make their 48s top notch and this is one mould i look forward to.
the mould does look fine from the pre-pros. it commits the usual HM sins of blanked off exhausts and a bad panel.

with regards to the panel, there is a more or less easy fix that can be done to quite a few HM 1/48 aircraft and should absolutely be obligatory on models like the stearman:

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1/48 yahu models panels are cheap and superb and an easy way to upgrade nearly any HM 48 scale model. I am not 100% sure it will fit, but i suspect the "p40 tomhawk" panel will fit in HM's B.
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the mould does look fine from the pre-pros. it commits the usual HM sins of blanked off exhausts and a bad panel.

with regards to the panel, there is a more or less easy fix that can be done to quite a few HM 1/48 aircraft and should absolutely be obligatory on models like the stearman:

» 1:48

1/48 yahu models panels are cheap and superb and an easy way to upgrade nearly any HM 48 scale model. I am not 100% sure it will fit, but i suspect the "p40 tomhawk" panel will fit in HM's B.
i'm hopeless with even the simplest of code 3s. i've lost count of the number of ordnance i've snapped off their pylons. good thing they're easy fixes though. my models are all forward facing so one hardly gets to see the inside of the cockpit... and no, i don't allow anyone to handle my models no matter how careful they are. so the detailed panels are pretty much nice to have but not essential to me... or at least not essential enough for me to attempt to fix. i'm all thumbs.
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Already looks better than the Corgi 1/72. This could be a real sleeper for HM. I think that they'll be able to peddle several different versions from the three AVG squadrons. The Russians used the P-40B, as did the UK/CW air forces. Looks like a winner to me.


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I wish HM did not follow Corgi's lead with the canopy. There should be two options for the canopy and not the current horrendous sliding canopy effort.

To be fair to HM,...they are doomed if they do and do if they don't. Many lads would demand a sliding cockpit.

Regardless, the present canopy is poor.

If you can score C1 Welch's P40,..then in my opinion you are better off.
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I wish HM did not follow Corgi's lead with the canopy. There should be two options for the canopy and not the current horrendous sliding canopy effort.

To be fair to HM,...they are doomed if they do and do if they don't. Many lads would demand a sliding cockpit.

Regardless, the present canopy is poor.

If you can score C1 Welch's P40,..then in my opinion you are better off.

I've C1's AVG model. I like it, but the rubber-guns (actually they're probably vinyl) are pretty dreadful. Can't get them straight and level with each other.
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i'm really curious as to who will actually buy the soviet white p40s given that what I would have thought to be the ininitely more popular white fw190s from hm seem to have sold slowly. we all know that if hm makes a white p40 it will be basically all white with no subtlety whatsoever representing the field-applied nature of the whitewash. moreover, as far as i can tell, every single hm/skymax soviet ww2 aircraft has sold badly: i think you can still find skymax la5s for under a tenner here and there and the p39s dumped badly. and we are to believe that people are going to pay gbp 70 / $90 for a p40b dipped in tippex/whiteout with a few red stars and one serial number tampo in it?

unlikely.

i think we're going to see flying tigers birds pumped out en masse from a common base - just cover all the squadrons and a few famous aces just like the endless USAF korean war sabres.

then, we might see a raf kittyhawk and maybe a green soviet one build on an common color base as something else. if we're really lucky we'll see a pre-war green one or if hm really decides to be nice we'll see an NMF one. i'd go for p-40b shelly ann in nmf for example.
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This is all interesting news if in fact you are into collecting P-40 models in the first place.. i have no interest in this particular American fighter of the war period but what i'm more interested in is the larger more famous P-47 Thunderbolt, i would like to see the Soviet version that was supplied to the USSR during the war as lend-lease examples such as the pictures below..

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i think we're going to see flying tigers birds pumped out en masse from a common base - just cover all the squadrons and a few famous aces just like the endless USAF korean war sabres.

then, we might see a raf kittyhawk and maybe a green soviet one build on an common color base as something else. if we're really lucky we'll see a pre-war green one or if hm really decides to be nice we'll see an NMF one. i'd go for p-40b shelly ann in nmf for example.
Agree, Flying Tigers will be well represented.

The Desert actually has plenty of schemes to choose from. 112 SQN comes immediately to mind as does Neville Duke, Clive Caldwell and Billy Drake. All famous Aces in the Desert. Then no doubt HM will release an Aussie P40B belonging to 3 SQN, hopefully Bobby Gibbes, or "Woof" Arthur.

Then you have the Blighty based Tomahawks, mainly RCAF SQNs. And Canadian Aleutians SQNs assisting the USAAF.
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i'm really curious as to who will actually buy the soviet white p40s given that what I would have thought to be the ininitely more popular white fw190s from hm seem to have sold slowly. we all know that if hm makes a white p40 it will be basically all white with no subtlety whatsoever representing the field-applied nature of the whitewash. moreover, as far as i can tell, every single hm/skymax soviet ww2 aircraft has sold badly: i think you can still find skymax la5s for under a tenner here and there and the p39s dumped badly. and we are to believe that people are going to pay gbp 70 / $90 for a p40b dipped in tippex/whiteout with a few red stars and one serial number tampo in it?

unlikely.

i think we're going to see flying tigers birds pumped out en masse from a common base - just cover all the squadrons and a few famous aces just like the endless USAF korean war sabres.

then, we might see a raf kittyhawk and maybe a green soviet one build on an common color base as something else. if we're really lucky we'll see a pre-war green one or if hm really decides to be nice we'll see an NMF one. i'd go for p-40b shelly ann in nmf for example.
i suppose it's a question of what takes precedence: the airframe, the operator or the scheme (or a combination). the white would be literally outstanding in the sea of green camos. it also has the element of having an unlikely operator... somewhat similar to captured aircrafts or aggressor schemes. it remains to be seen how collectors take to this. after all, the white fw190 from hm isn't the only slow moving fw190 from hm.
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HA9203 has pre-production pics up:


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Gaps on the underside look a little rough, and the "barrels" on the nose-mounted MG are unpainted. Hope they do better than this on the final product.
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Front windscreen of canopy frames need paint.
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Also needs a ring and bead sight configured forward of the canopy.







I hope that HM doesn't decide to leave the parts off of all there P-40 B/C.
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Roundals look rather light
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Roundals look rather light

The Chinese Nationalist roundels on the Carousel1 model are very similar in color. Nice model, BTW, the C1. I just wish that they'd managed to manufacture it without the dreadful rubber gun barrels.
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The Chinese Nationalist roundels on the Carousel1 model are very similar in color. Nice model, BTW, the C1. I just wish that they'd managed to manufacture it without the dreadful rubber gun barrels.
I've noticed its light like that on Corgi's 1/72 David Lee Hill Warhawk as well but no where near as light and Corgi have been known to get roundals wrong. It's strange that their P-40Ns have the dark roundal and this doesn't, I can't find anything that suggests they changed colours, their roundal has been largely unchanged since.

Edit: It's based on their national emblem since the 1920's which is darker.

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Maybe the colors will look better in person. The Flying Tiger's P-40's should be the exact same color as a 1940 British Spitfire. The were intended for the British and had already been painted in British camouflage. But it looks like the did the belly in grey. I have the Carousel P-40 and it's spot on and even matches the HM Spitfires to a"t"
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Also needs a ring and bead sight configured forward of the canopy.
this is not a settled question. these sites and the exact nature of them is a topic that is discussed and debated regularly in p40 circles.
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this is not a settled question. these sites and the exact nature of them is a topic that is discussed and debated regularly in p40 circles.
My following of that debate is when they were first uncrated and assembled, there was no sight as described by Rudy1988.

They were added later. This demonstrates what is wrong with the release. Its older aircraft as indicated by the kills and artwork. But the scheme is of a freshly painted aircraft (and I have serious doubts on the colour utilised) with no sight and kill marks.

The Boyington C1 release has the gunsights,..in my view its a better replicated scheme and better canopy.

I will be all over the Desert releases and a UK Blighty Based Army Co-Operation Command scheme.

But I am so glad I have the Boyington release (in fact I am glad to have all three C1 releases).
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Maybe the colors will look better in person. The Flying Tiger's P-40's should be the exact same color as a 1940 British Spitfire. The were intended for the British and had already been painted in British camouflage. But it looks like the did the belly in grey. I have the Carousel P-40 and it's spot on and even matches the HM Spitfires to a"t"
Well I never knew that. It would seem then that many manu's Flying Tigers colours are pretty far off.
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