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Old 09-27-2017, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was cleaning up the other day and decided to take a look at my old diecast planes from about 10 years ago. This used to be a big deal for me, but for one reason or another, I put my stuff away and there it has sat.

Back then, I collected 1:72 WWII, mostly heavy bombardment. I'd like to start collecting some Vietnam stuff, like Hueys and Cobras, and it seems like 1:48 is the sweet spot there. Seems like the landscape of the hobby has changed quite a bit, with a lot of my old bookmarks no longer going to where they should.

I had forgotten how damn fragile these things are! maybe that's why I put them away to begin with - no proper place to display them.
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Look this isn't my field of expertise as I stick to WWII but in IMHO I would say stick to 1/72. Vietnam era jets dominate that scale and their are helicopters too (although granted there seem to be more on 1/48 for that particular era).

Corgi seems to have some very good choppers although I don't own any.

The only exception would be if you plan only to do Vietnam choppers 1/48 or if you don't mind mixing up scales (I stick to only 1/72).

Speak to the other guys though to confirm. I readily admit I am not an expert and could very well be wrong.
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Great time to be getting back into it, no more apologising (at least on this forum) and all the shills are locked up in said forum.

You should search member Tker76 on here and check out his awesome Vietnam Collection, by far hands down THE best VN theme I've ever seen.

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Great time to be getting back into it, no more apologising (at least on this forum) and all the shills are locked up in said forum.

You should search member Tker76 on here and check out his awesome Vietnam Collection, by far hands down THE best VN theme I've ever seen.

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but yeah, monsieur tker's collection is awesome. monsieur bucknaked2k... be wary though, you may be sliding down a slippery rabbit hole thereafter and there's no knowing when it'll ever end
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Look this isn't my field of expertise as I stick to WWII but in IMHO I would say stick to 1/72. Vietnam era jets dominate that scale and their are helicopters too (although granted there seem to be more on 1/48 for that particular era).

Corgi seems to have some very good choppers although I don't own any.
Corgi makes excellent choppers in 1/72. However, the larger scale (1/48, etc) choppers that corgi made were from an older generation. While they might be ok, they're kind of a collecting dead end as the best you can do is find a few on ebay and that's it. Meanwhile, if you wanted to pair these with 1/48 vietnam fixed wing aircraft, again, you'll be limited to older stuff from a previous generation.

mmarsh is right: go to 1/72. you can find some really great fixed wing aircraft from the era from hobbymaster. you can add to this a few selected vietnam era corgi aircraft like their "chink 69" helicopter if you can still find one and of course their SUPERB AA37604 CH-34 Choctaw which is just a lovely little model in person.



For UH-1s hobbymaster makes some decent ones but they are hard to find and expensive, oddly. for stuff like cobras and really hueys for the time being you are mostly stuck in 1/72 to secondary manufacturers like altaya and its many variants.

the good news is for vietnam in 1/72 you can build up a very nice 'enemy' collection, with very good mig15s from hobbymaster, mig21s from corgi/hobbymaster, and very soon a mig17 from hobbymaster.

and oh ya - if your vietnam interests extends to french indochina, there are a few aircraft from HM there too that are worth considering and not too hard to find.
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Thanks to all for your kind words.

It seems like the Corgi helos I've seen are all/mostly 1:48. The Unsung Heroes and the Firebase 'Nam Collections are really nice and cover a wide selection of UH-1 variants. These also seem relatively easy to find on the secondary.

That said, I would love to land a 1:72 Hobby Master Huey, but they seem to be extremely hard to find.
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There's a very nice-looking 1/48 Cavalry Huey available soon at the Flying Mule: AF-A00151

Not sure if I'm allowed to post a link but here goes: UH-1H Huey 1:48 Diecast Model - Air Force 1 AF-A00151 - $87.95
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^ That is a pretty sweet Huey. Not that familiar with Air Force 1.
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Sure is an "eat your heart out" moment when you see all the sold out/discontinued models from years past.

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Sure is an "eat your heart out" moment when you see all the sold out/discontinued models from years past.
Yeah, isn't it, though?! The good news is that you can find many of them on the Bay, albeit often at inflated prices.

I'm not at all familiar with Air Force 1, either. My small collection is all 1:72 HM, Dragon and Corgi.

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I started my WWII models collecting the 1:48th but over time, did not like the room they took up or the fact they were so out of scale to my modern jets collection. So last year i started to collect the 1:72 WWII models and found there are quite a bit of nice models out there if you look. Corgi has done a great job with them lately as well which really boost the great models you can have from that era.

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Great picture, tripoli. Wish I could snap a pic of my collection, but I just don't have the space right now. Need to find a nice display case where I can have everything out & outfitted.

My current collection is exclusively WWII 1:72 Corgi, Forces of Valor, and HM. In fact, here's roll call:

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B-17 Memphis Belle
B-17 Memphis Belle
B-17 Nine-O-Nine

B-24 Sleepy Time Gal
B-24 Strawberry B*tch

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I can confirm those Pooch 48 VN helicopters are very nice, and quite readily accessible compared to the various 72 VN helo releases.

If you do start chasing down 72 VN helicopter releases, Corgi also did an ACH-47 Chinook gunship, 1st Air Cav's "Guns-a-go-go", which is an interesting little historical footnote and a nice release in and of itself.

HM's Hueys are some of my favourite models, they are lovely little models. Particularly fond of the two RAAF No 9 Sqn "Long Tan" releases, Air America and HAL-3 "Seawolves".
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I can confirm those Pooch 48 VN helicopters are very nice, and quite readily accessible compared to the various 72 VN helo releases.

If you do start chasing down 72 VN helicopter releases, Corgi also did an ACH-47 Chinook gunship, 1st Air Cav's "Guns-a-go-go", which is an interesting little historical footnote and a nice release in and of itself.

HM's Hueys are some of my favourite models, they are lovely little models. Particularly fond of the two RAAF No 9 Sqn "Long Tan" releases, Air America and HAL-3 "Seawolves".
Being a beginner at the hobby and with limited space, I've decided to hunt for basically a single 1/72 model of some of the more common aircraft since WW2 (this means no variations of livery). So I'm looking for one Huey that could be considered the "typical" Huey of the VN war. I like the Navy "Seawolves" that you noted, but it was more specialized for SAR, recon, MEDEVAC, etc. I think maybe a better example representative of the VN Huey for me might be an Army one? Which one would you suggest in 1/72, the HM AHC Gunslingers HH1001?

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Yep, my collecting started with space and commercial aircraft. Around to 1500 models in the 1:400 scale at one point. When the good 1:72 die cast started coming out, I went to the modern US military jets ( as well Britain, Israel, Canada and now Japan) and pretty much everything I have seen since I was a kid in the 70's. I did have a decent WWII Navy collection but it has been recent that I have started looking at the Army Air Corp. I have been weeding out duplicates and multiple liveries and shooting for my best liked liveries with the intent of getting at least one of every well made example of aircraft, thinking more like a curator wanting an example of every type of aircraft. Currently I have about 100 - 125 1:72 scale models in my collection. Once I finish with the WWII models, I will start looking at the post WWII models through the 60's. And if there are any good 1:72 WWI models, to start looking at that era as well.
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Yep, my collecting started with space and commercial aircraft. Around to 1500 models in the 1:400 scale at one point. When the good 1:72 die cast started coming out, I went to the modern US military jets ( as well Britain, Israel, Canada and now Japan) and pretty much everything I have seen since I was a kid in the 70's. I did have a decent WWII Navy collection but it has been recent that I have started looking at the Army Air Corp. I have been weeding out duplicates and multiple liveries and shooting for my best liked liveries with the intent of getting at least one of every well made example of aircraft, thinking more like a curator wanting an example of every type of aircraft. Currently I have about 100 - 125 1:72 scale models in my collection. Once I finish with the WWII models, I will start looking at the post WWII models through the 60's. And if there are any good 1:72 WWI models, to start looking at that era as well.
Did, did, did... you mean to say you had 1,500 models?
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Yes, Use to be a huge 1:400 Herpa, Dragon, Gemini Jets collector. I concentrated on US operators, Lufthansa, Canadian and European airlines. Loved the UPS and Fedex models as well as I worked at UPS in college. As well space and desktop models.
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Wow Trip, 1500 models, that's really impressive. 1/400 collectors do tend to collect bigger numbers then 1/72 and 1/200 though hey. Do you still have them or sold most of them ? Here I was thinking you were a hardcore 1/72 military collector all these years.
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I sold almost all of the 1:400 scale around 2004 as I started getting into the larger scale models. This is just one of a few collection hobbies I have, I also collect movie props which are a tad more expensive. Every once in awhile something incredible will come along outside the hobby budget, for which I will sell items in a collection to get what I am looking for in the moment.
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Being a beginner at the hobby and with limited space, I've decided to hunt for basically a single 1/72 model of some of the more common aircraft since WW2 (this means no variations of livery). So I'm looking for one Huey that could be considered the "typical" Huey of the VN war. I like the Navy "Seawolves" that you noted, but it was more specialized for SAR, recon, MEDEVAC, etc. I think maybe a better example representative of the VN Huey for me might be an Army one? Which one would you suggest in 1/72, the HM AHC Gunslingers HH1001?
So, does anyone have any comment on this?
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So, does anyone have any comment on this?
Have you tried actually finding one of the ones you are interested in?

Some are nearly unobtainable.

A quick search on ebay and what I saw was a the sharks mouth / spades ("frog") attack huey from HM just went for over GBP 100 (USD $135) on uk ebay.

And the thing is, they're fine but not even 'that great' models (for example: the door is not openable). Certainly some Corgi 1/72 helicopters are far better.

The aforementioned whiskey-a-go-go chinook is a bit of an odd one. it can sell from anywhere from $quite cheap to $wow depending on how the winds are blowing. it is one of corgi's weaker chinooks, but overall about the same quality as hm's hueys.
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I sold almost all of the 1:400 scale around 2004 as I started getting into the larger scale models. This is just one of a few collection hobbies I have, I also collect movie props which are a tad more expensive. Every once in awhile something incredible will come along outside the hobby budget, for which I will sell items in a collection to get what I am looking for in the moment.
Any movies in particular or just anything that catches your eye
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Have you tried actually finding one of the ones you are interested in?

Some are nearly unobtainable.

A quick search on ebay and what I saw was a the sharks mouth / spades ("frog") attack huey from HM just went for over GBP 100 (USD $135) on uk ebay.

And the thing is, they're fine but not even 'that great' models (for example: the door is not openable). Certainly some Corgi 1/72 helicopters are far better.

The aforementioned whiskey-a-go-go chinook is a bit of an odd one. it can sell from anywhere from $quite cheap to $wow depending on how the winds are blowing. it is one of corgi's weaker chinooks, but overall about the same quality as hm's hueys.
I don't collect 1/48 and Corgi has not made any 1/72 Hueys from what I can find out, so that pretty much narrows it down to an HM Huey; they appear to be the best in 1/72. Not interested in a Chinook right now.

The 2 US Army Hueys that look the best to me are HH1001 and HH1004. Both do seem to be very hard to find, though and beaucoup $$$. Does anybody have any of these, and what are your thoughts on them?

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I would suggest HA1004; I have both and both are great little models, but to my mind the 174th AHC “Sharks” Gun platoon as represented is an iconic AHC scheme and a more typical configuration than the ARA armament as carried by HA1001.

The Sharks/Dolphins of the 174th AHC flew in VN for many years, here is a potted history if you are interested (also most other AHCs..)

That site gives a good overview of VN Hueys, I really find it interesting
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"Any movies in particular or just anything that catches your eye"

Mainly sci-fi, Star Wars, MiB, Avengers, Aliens, I am on a bit of an a bit of an Indiana Jones kick right now, Ghostbusters, Pixar, Stargate, Weta, Harry Potter, items, odd stuff like Goonies, National Treasure, and Castaway, but mainly anything I like.

I would highly recommend looking at the newer 1:72 WWII models, the quality and accuracy has gotten much better in the last few years.
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"Any movies in particular or just anything that catches your eye"

Mainly sci-fi, Star Wars, MiB, Avengers, Aliens, I am on a bit of an a bit of an Indiana Jones kick right now, Ghostbusters, Pixar, Stargate, Weta, Harry Potter, items, odd stuff like Goonies, National Treasure, and Castaway, but mainly anything I like.

I would highly recommend looking at the newer 1:72 WWII models, the quality and accuracy has gotten much better in the last few years.
I really wish the people at Disney would allow a proper diecast company (like HM or Corgi) to do real STAR WARS models.

Right now people have 3 choices for Star Wars models

1. Poorly made toys from Hasbro, bad detailing, bad paint, cheap plastic parts. As big a SW nerd that I am...I couldn't do it, a man has to have limits.

2. LEGOS, (their top tier collection, called UCS) which surprisingly are quite nice but its LEGOS and not really diecast also they are really, really, expensive, especially the older stuff like Red 5. That can easily go into the high hundreds for certain ships. I think this is the best bet quality wise unless you have godlike model building skills (see #3).

3. Or for those with the time and ability, Ravell makes some decent plastic models. I have neither.

Its a little surprising because their are some really awesome diecast figurines and busts...but...no vehicles.
Its extremely unlikely, but like I said were a top tier model company able to negotiate a licensing agreement with Disney to make diecast SW ships....here's my money Disney, take it.

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Bandai also make a huge range of SW models, kits and (I believe, not certain as it’s not really my thing - my preferred sci-fi is more “Moon Landing” than “Star Wars”, I like the effort they went to to make it seem really) also pre-assembled.

The built kits I have seen are very good, very detailed and cover a wide range of subjects from the Original Trilogy thru the latest Disney movies.
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Mainly sci-fi, Star Wars, MiB, Avengers, Aliens, I am on a bit of an a bit of an Indiana Jones kick right now, Ghostbusters, Pixar, Stargate, Weta, Harry Potter, items, odd stuff like Goonies, National Treasure, and Castaway, but mainly anything I like.

I would highly recommend looking at the newer 1:72 WWII models, the quality and accuracy has gotten much better in the last few years.
i've got a couple of hot toys iron man armour and they do display very well, especially the latter diecast armour. the hulkbuster is one kicka$$ armour. it is big as it is heavy... but alas, i'm channeling my funds to more diecast fighter jets.

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I really wish the people at Disney would allow a proper diecast company (like HM or Corgi) to do real STAR WARS models.

Right now people have 3 choices for Star Wars models

1. Poorly made toys from Hasbro, bad detailing, bad paint, cheap plastic parts. As big a SW nerd that I am...I couldn't do it, a man has to have limits.

2. LEGOS, (their top tier collection, called UCS) which surprisingly are quite nice but its LEGOS and not really diecast also they are really, really, expensive, especially the older stuff like Red 5. That can easily go into the high hundreds for certain ships. I think this is the best bet quality wise unless you have godlike model building skills (see #3).

3. Or for those with the time and ability, Ravell makes some decent plastic models. I have neither.

Its a little surprising because their are some really awesome diecast figurines and busts...but...no vehicles.
Its extremely unlikely, but like I said were a top tier model company able to negotiate a licensing agreement with Disney to make diecast SW ships....here's my money Disney, take it.
lego recently re-released the millennium falcon ucs... and yes, it's expensive (and pretty much sold out everywhere).

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Bandai also make a huge range of SW models, kits and (I believe, not certain as it’s not really my thing - my preferred sci-fi is more “Moon Landing” than “Star Wars”, I like the effort they went to to make it seem really) also pre-assembled.

The built kits I have seen are very good, very detailed and cover a wide range of subjects from the Original Trilogy thru the latest Disney movies.
bandai has some pretty nifty snap-on star wars kits but no, haven't brought myself to venture into that frontier. there are also some 3d metal model by a company called fascinations. pretty nice but alas, have not ventured into this frontier either. i'm all thumbs even for snap-fit kits!

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lego recently re-released the millennium falcon ucs... and yes, it's expensive (and pretty much sold out everywhere).


I know a guy who has a couple of the original release Millennium Falcon kits BNIB..

If you have a spare $10K I could probably hook you up.

Alternately there is always Li Pin for the more budget conscious LEGO fan..
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I know a guy who has a couple of the original release Millennium Falcon kits BNIB..

If you have a spare $10K I could probably hook you up.

Alternately there is always Li Pin for the more budget conscious LEGO fan..
dude... i may be crazy, but not THAT crazy. the latest release has better detailing and retails for aud1,299.99. kinda insane to be paying aud10k atm, me thinks. worse if you quoted in usd

as a side, lego has also re-released the death star, snowspeeder... and now the millennium falcon fairly recently so no, i don't think it's wise to invest in lego, ucs or otherwise.
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You can get Master replicas studio scale models of Star Wars ships on the secondary markets, which is high. Sold out long ago. You can also get some nicer random models from time to time through Hot Toys, Sideshow and a few other specialty manufacturers, but it IS an expensive hobby.
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I would suggest HA1004; I have both and both are great little models, but to my mind the 174th AHC “Sharks” Gun platoon as represented is an iconic AHC scheme and a more typical configuration than the ARA armament as carried by HA1001.

The Sharks/Dolphins of the 174th AHC flew in VN for many years, here is a potted history if you are interested (also most other AHCs..)

That site gives a good overview of VN Hueys, I really find it interesting
That Huey site is great, thanks! I had decided on the HH1004 as you suggested until a new HH1001 showed up on Ebay that I couldn't pass up since it ended up costing me $80 USD including shipping thanks to a 20% off Ebay/PaPal coupon that I had to use or it would expire. Not a great price but pretty decent compared to what these HM Hueys seem to go for these days.
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That Huey site is great, thanks! I had decided on the HH1004 as you suggested until a new HH1001 showed up on Ebay that I couldn't pass up since it ended up costing me $80 USD including shipping thanks to a 20% off Ebay/PaPal coupon that I had to use or it would expire. Not a great price but pretty decent compared to what these HM Hueys seem to go for these days.
Congrats, nice find

I have just unboxed (and put into my cabs) a bunch of recent purchases, including a few VN theme additions I intend to post soon. I haven’t got many of my 1/72 Hueys our yet, but there are a couple as well as a number of old 1/48 Franklin Mint/Armour models you may find interesting.
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