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Old 07-18-2017, 06:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I didn't see a thread about this aircraft yet. In a word, AWESOME. Absolute must get. Korean war aircraft that isn't the usual korean war suspect (which itself would be welcome from HM too, perhaps in a later release).
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Would have been more interesting in 1:72, I don't think there's a market for Korean stuff in 1:48 TBH
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Picture of the real P-51 fighter, it's not bad looking but i prefer World War 2 fighters over the ones of America's 'Forgotten War'..

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When I saw the graphic of the model I immediately was struck by the use of an olive drab antiglare nose, something not seen on most F-51s of this time. The photograph clearly shows it as black and extending back around the canopy frame.

That is a major error.
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When I saw the graphic of the model I immediately was struck by the use of an olive drab antiglare nose, something not seen on most F-51s of this time. The photograph clearly shows it as black and extending back around the canopy frame.
That is a major error.
have you contacted HM? please do so immediately.

the negativity of the other respondents is tragic.

there are plenty of WW2 P-51 releases from HM (but not enough PTO ones as yet!). In fact, not counting the poberezny weirdo, this is the first US non-WW2 one. If you want WW2 P-51Ds, at least in the UK several are available on discount.

And if somebody wants to waste their money on 1/72 P-51Ds, corgi will be happy to sell you something in fact they have just released a 1/72 Korean war P-51. I'm sure it's swell and you can find a couple more from dragon out there too which cost about the same as new build corgis on discount.

will check my "korean war in color" book tonight.
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When I saw the graphic of the model I immediately was struck by the use of an olive drab antiglare nose, something not seen on most F-51s of this time. The photograph clearly shows it as black and extending back around the canopy frame.

That is a major error.
Sent the pic to HM to let them know.
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Would have been more interesting in 1:72, I don't think there's a market for Korean stuff in 1:48 TBH
Not if you want something to go with the F9Fs they made.
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Not if you want something to go with the F9Fs they made.
or the corsairs they will

but beyond that - 1/48 is just the right scale to appreciate single engine prop types.

pity about that HM p-40. and the P-39 for that matter. i have a few superbly built plastic p-39s, but boy it would have been awesome if HM had done those in 1/48.
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Sent the pic to HM to let them know.
i have had a discussion with HM about this.

the olive drab is certainly wrong. they know it and hopefully it will be fixed.

the bigger question is whether the whole livery is wrong-- or, rather, the tamiya kit that they are copying from had it completely wrong. hm is essentaily copying the tamiya kit but got the olive drab wrong.

here's the issue. there's a clear wartime photo which shows a black cowl, black canopy frame, and the black goes all the way back behind the canopy. furthermore, this ac has a red spinner and lip intake. notably, it has NO mission markings on the port fuselage.

now, either the photo (below) shows a different aircraft (unlikely - would BOTH be called "buckeye blitz VI" in that case?) or this is the same aircraft at a different point in time.

two theories on the "different point in time."

if the HM/Tamiya version is earlier, that means that that the mission markings were removed and the flat black was extended to the canopy and beyond.

if the photo version is earlier, then the mission markings were added later (plausible) but the canopy was changed and ... paint removed from behind the canopy? that doesn't seem like something that would happen.

neither version is satisfactory, though clearly at one point paint was applied as the pilots named changed.

i looked through about 20 books and could not find other photos of this aircraft. i dont however have osprey's new "f-51 units of the korean war" if somebody has it maybe you can look? any other photos of this ac would be awesome. maybe even there are some in the tamiya kit instructions?

also: note what may be black piping on the red waist stripe and tail red.

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Not if you want something to go with the F9Fs they made.
Now more F9Fs, that I would like to see.

As for NorK Corsairs, until they do, it makes not sense to do the P/F-51 without the other so I hope that comes true.
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i have had a discussion with HM about this.

the olive drab is certainly wrong. they know it and hopefully it will be fixed.

the bigger question is whether the whole livery is wrong-- or, rather, the tamiya kit that they are copying from had it completely wrong. hm is essentaily copying the tamiya kit but got the olive drab wrong.

here's the issue. there's a clear wartime photo which shows a black cowl, black canopy frame, and the black goes all the way back behind the canopy. furthermore, this ac has a red spinner and lip intake. notably, it has NO mission markings on the port fuselage.

now, either the photo (below) shows a different aircraft (unlikely - would BOTH be called "buckeye blitz VI" in that case?) or this is the same aircraft at a different point in time.

two theories on the "different point in time."

if the HM/Tamiya version is earlier, that means that that the mission markings were removed and the flat black was extended to the canopy and beyond.

if the photo version is earlier, then the mission markings were added later (plausible) but the canopy was changed and ... paint removed from behind the canopy? that doesn't seem like something that would happen.

neither version is satisfactory, though clearly at one point paint was applied as the pilots named changed.

i looked through about 20 books and could not find other photos of this aircraft. i dont however have osprey's new "f-51 units of the korean war" if somebody has it maybe you can look? any other photos of this ac would be awesome. maybe even there are some in the tamiya kit instructions?

also: note what may be black piping on the red waist stripe and tail red.

I think they are going with this pic as the reference now. So no kill markings.
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I think they are going with this pic as the reference now. So no kill markings.
i wonder how they will get the pilots name right. also whether they'll get the relatively complex tail wheel door markings right.

1/48 ICM P-51D by Peter Kormos

this guy seems to have done a hybrid but also seems to suggest that he did research to verify this.

anyway the tamiya kit is cheap enough if a decal or two are wanted. i do like the idea of those locomotive strafe markings.

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