Wildblood

I've lost track of whether we can, or cannot, reference the source of these photos (which would be a site that often has HM pre-pro photos on it ).......

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IflyHA

Well this is a surprise! Let's see how this one turns out

Adour

No surprise but warmly welcomed. Haven't looked in detail, but at first glance the canopy shape is well off. Too much of a "crown".

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russi...78gt%2BA%3D%3D

Ukrainian_Falcons

Of course you can post those, just not profit from it in secret

Anyway, why an Su-35 and not a Su-27/30 ? Way more operators, way more built ! Lol Su-27 would have gotten me more excited and probably not look twice at a JCW Flanker, missed opportunity for HM to kill off the competition.

That antenna under the cockpit looks like 10x overscale, ok it's a prototype and will hopefully fixed.

Good to see HM finally pandering to soviet collectors for a change

Aussie117

I think it's a great move by HM. Although the Su-30 which I originally wanted and would be a better seller, the amount of mold changes required by HM to support the different operators/variants would be massive and costly.

The Su-35 however, already has an operational background. It's still in early stages of its life, but future operators are just around the corner eg. Indonesia, UAE, Algeria and more. China also already operates a number of Su-35SK Variants.

The aircraft is a definite buy from me if they release one of the these that operated over Syria. Can't wait to see her in all it's glory.

Shawn507

Well that will save me money.

tomcatter

offhand, for an su-35, i'd say the front section is a bit too heavy at the bottom and that nose pitot! that's clearly a su27 wannabe...

max ji

Basic on hasegawa.

Ukrainian_Falcons

Yes please

Blues Boy

Well the nose cone's diameter of the prototype looks like a better fit then something like this......

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Tajmashhad

Whatever they make with an Su- in front of it is highly welcome, though I'd very much like th MIG-29 & 35 in HM too

tim_1/72

Looks outstanding. The issues noted are nothing major to me. Even the canopy is no more out of shape than CW's F-14s , HM's two seater F-16s or any other model currently out there. I think our standards keep getting higher and higher with each release. It doesn't have the massive gap in the fuselage like that of Calibre F-14s or HM Mig-31s so that's a plus. The 27/30 will come guys and maybe even sooner than later since there's really only a handful of schemes available for the Su-35. They probably should've done the 27 first but this 35 is a great addition to their Russian/soviet line jets. Even now that HM gave us 3 successive soviet model releases, we're still finding ways to hang them for it. If they botched the colors and some other QC stuff then by all means give em the boot for it. But let's be thankful for this Su-35 release. Hopefully this paves way for even more Russian/Soviet jets. Great job HM

Ukrainian_Falcons

Who was it that was always after this scheme ? I am the ACE ?



Totally agree with Tim, it's defo very welcome and I'm sure a Su-27/30 will pop up as well at some point, next perhaps the MiG-29.

Only issue for me is that antenna, other then that, yep will wait to see the first camo scheme painted before the party really gets started.

tomcatter

i'd be cautious. that model look suspiciously like a silver painted model kit instead of a clay model render/diecast moulding. if it's not, then all the better coz i hardly notice any seams on that model!

Mover_Shaker81

Yeah thanks tomcatter, I probably won't buy this now. Thanks for the caution.

JFC.

FortunateSon

To me, sorry, but this airplane is as boring as the F-15. I'd get one standard Russian air force one at most in a generic scheme. However, I can see it selling not badly and of course HM wants to make a Chinese version which is why this was chosen over other options.

mig-29 otoh i would have gotten 3-5: polish, ukrainian, russian, slovak...

Wildblood

Well it appears a collector elsewhere, having asked the question, has been advised by HM (William) via email, that they do intend to also pursue the Su 27 and Su 25 moulds as well.

It seems at present the first Su 35 release is looking like a toss up between prototypes 901 or 902.

So there you go, as far as HM is concerned the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming....

P.S- on the issue of this prototype, seems likely to be a plastic kit, possibly a diecast, but probably not a clay model based on the join line visible on the undercarriage view?

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Ukrainian_Falcons

Can HM ditch the silly prototype scheme NO ONE is asking for

Do a RuAF in Syria and and a Chinese version, then move on to Su-27.

Good that HM finally listerned about the Su-25 even if 2 years late

plane737

Russia's Most Lethal Fighter Jet Ever Is Heading to the Middle East | The National Interest Blog

UAE SU-35's in the near future?

tripoli

I hope HM can at least fix the drooping cans in the back. HM sucks at engine nozzles.

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Ukrainian_Falcons

That's thrust vectoring nozzles but yeah, they could make them look more realistic and less toy like in general.

kltower

The nozzles in other Chinese made models are moveable. Not sure HM will follow suit.

kltower

Here are two photos from Terebo that shows movable nozzles. I have the other non-AF1 model and the nozzles can also move.

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Ukrainian_Falcons

HM might be using interchangeable parts like Calwings. TBH I don't care for such details, it's nice to have them but not going to be noticed at the back of the cabs.

tomcatter

...or from two feet away

kltower

Generally, HM minimises moving parts. Like, you don't have movable rudders and wing slats as found on witty planes.

Ukrainian_Falcons

I hope HM never considers that. These nozzles might just be extra parts, not moveable.

Considering Calwings announced the Su-24 and now HM wants to do the Su-25-27-35, I'd say they are competiting with each other head to head but with different moulds they think will be popular, so far HM is winning.

tomcatter

and hm doesn't cost as much. but it's good to see the russian jets having their day now...

Adour

They're looking at correcting the canopy and we can expect operational schemes after the prototype. I guess someone must have asked for the prototype, perhaps for scheme variety. I just think it increases the chances of getting the operational configurations wrong.

Ukrainian_Falcons

As always with HM, the first few schemes of a new mould are usually dumpers.

The similar camo JCW Su-30 isn't exactly flying off shelves either.

Mikael

Well, the problem with that JCW in my opinion is execution and pricing, not the scheme itself.

I can see myself getting at least two or three HM Su-35s if they are well done. Prototype, RuAF operational scheme from Syria, and UAE one (the deal is signed, just no details are available at this time). And maybe a Russian Knights one.

So count me in for maybe four of those (although space might become an issue )

Ukrainian_Falcons

I haven't been impressed with what JCW has come out with, both scheme accuracy and execution and that nose gap and zero improvements to the Witty mould or parts, lazy.

RuAF operational scheme from Syria and PLAAF for me

Wildblood

The problem with the Su 35 is other than Russia/China we won't be seeing any schemes from other buyers for several years. If the UAE has only recently signed a deal, how many years into the future will it be for delivery/operational conversion before they are front line active?

Oman ordered 12 Eurofighters in Dec 2012 and the first one rolled off the production line last week!

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So there you go, as far as HM is concerned the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming....

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And now HM have announced they will be doing the Mig 17 too!

What's happened! Has Putin got to them too!!?

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Mikael

Also, the first model will be the 902 prototype, black,grey white splinter camo one. One hell of a looker in my opinion. And it is only a matter of time before we see a bird that flew over Syria

FortunateSon

Mikael

Spoke to William, and as mentioned, canopy shape will be fixed, and the pitot tube on the nose cone will be removed (since that is just a small plastic insert, should be no problem at all). And after the first prototype release (the 902), there will be operational schemes.

tomcatter

excellent news. thanks, monsieur mikael...

tim_1/72

I'd be interested in that Su-35 that operated in Syria. It would be nicer if they could include the ecm pods for the wingtips too. I'm not interested in the demo version but it would be a great opportunity for them to go crazy with the payloads since the trial/demobirds carried everything. I for one think the KH-59 missile is very speccie.

I code 3d an AF1 Su-35 awhile back and this is scheme and the loadout that I attempted to replicate. Unfortunately my ICM airto surface weapon set came a bit late. I think this looks badass. I especially like the KH-59. I would take this demo bird. The paint scheme is similar to the operational ones anyway

Ukrainian_Falcons

Already $20 off with PO at TFM, interested now ?

tomcatter

there you go again. so what if he is? or if he's waiting for better discounts? does that bother you?

Ukrainian_Falcons

It seems to bother him more then me Its just a joke brah

tomcatter

yeah... making fun of people is your idea of a joke, eh? (taking this offline so as not to derail this thread)

Ukrainian_Falcons

I've been called far worse and it's been like water off a ducks back to me. It always was a joke, even PMed that member ages ago to tell him that but he continued to act like he's got something stuck up there while others were ripping on him far worse before

Ok look forward to your PM TC

tomcatter

...and we're back online. it's not an su-35, and one can only dream, but what if...



no need to bring out your pitchfork and torches, monsieur uf... i know how much you detest fantasy schemes. doubt it will ever come to this but hey, it was just a thought. pretty good rendition, this... with the weathering and all.

tker76

Did Canada ever consider Sukhois to replace their CF-121 Fishbeds?

Ukrainian_Falcons

Actually that looks very nice, you going to email that to HM ? Or maybe we can see calwings do this if they ever try a Su-35 mould since they love pure fantasy models (Macross Tomcats)

tomcatter

there is a higher likelihood for tsm doing this using jcw's facilities (and ex witty su-27 moulds) instead of calwings. but after the lacklustre interest in the topgun models, i'm guessing their airplane line has gone bust.

immor

"06 red" after Syria

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Robert Wycoff

Yes!! I would buy that one. But I would also like a "Super Flanker", whatever that is.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090802.../su-35_su-27m/

Has anyone produced a diecast of it?