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Old 04-07-2017, 08:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi experienced collectors!

As some of you may know, I just started in this hobby, and after gathering a few Corgi bombers (all of which I am very happy with) and a couple Avro CF-105 Arrows (both with issues), I recently won the Century Wings 001620 - F-14A Tomcat VF-41 Black Aces AJ100 1978 USS Nimitz 10th Anniversary at auction from Jumblies, and was EXTEMRELY excitedly waiting for my first Century Wings F-14.

Well, it looks like I can't catch a break with these high-end diecast warbirds! I received the model today, and while in hand the F-14 indeed proved to be a nice heavy chunk of metal with decent castings, I was VERY disappointed to see the model has many areas where the paint is uneven or has a "grimy" look due to what is probably overspray.

A quick note before I post the photos: I am a "serious" collector, aka very protective about my models. I use clean 100% cotton gloves (meant for silverware handling), and store my models in a light, temperature, and humidity controlled room. So anyway for someone like me who values quality it is shocking seeing these kinds of faults in a brand new CW model. It had ruined what respect I had built up for the brand after reading all the reviews here.

So here are the problems, in all their inglory. Note that you can click on the URL to the right of (or below) each pic to go to the original high-res photo at Flickr.


left wing problem by uzairh, on Flickr

nose underside problems by uzairh, on Flickr

Whole lotta problems with nearly all the NACA ducts all over the bird:

tail underside NACA duct port by uzairh, on Flickr

tail underside NACA duct starboard by uzairh, on Flickr



Note that when I say "grimy" that is to indicate it LOOKS as if it is black residue on the metal body, but no amount of cleaning or scrubbing does anything. I have no clue what the problem is, it could be paint overspray, or overrun glue at the place where parts are joined together, leading to the paint smudging.

top view by uzairh, on Flickr

top view 3 by uzairh, on Flickr

The vertical stabs are particularly nasty, with the rough finish all to evident even at a distance when viewing the model:

vertical stabs left view by uzairh, on Flickr

vertical stabs left view - better focus by uzairh, on Flickr

vertical stabs left view - closeup 2 by uzairh, on Flickr

This roughness is present on BOTH sides of BOTH vertical stabs:

vertical stabs left view - closeup 3 by uzairh, on Flickr

This is the best-focused photo, really highlights how bad the tailplanes are:
vertical stabs left view - closeup by uzairh, on Flickr

vertical stabs right view by uzairh, on Flickr

This last photo is from my phone, and better shows the colors and how the problems "pop" in person:
20170407_104517 by uzairh, on Flickr

So, gentle folk of DAC: I am basing my criticism on the photos I saw of the model at http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...-001620-a.html, where I can see someof the same griminess, but not to the same extent as the model I received. Should I assume that such problems are par for the course for CW models? I was actually planning on building a collection mostly focused on these F-14s, but if all of them will have such problems I would be foolish to do so.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This looks like a panel or weathering wash gone wrong.
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Hello Uzair. The grimy look on the model is CW's attempt to represent weathering on the aircraft.
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Hello Uzair,

Your situation sounds familiar.

I have also models (from all companies) with issues. I'm sure every collector has models with issues in his/her collection !

Even the best like CW and HM have issues. I also wanted "perfect" models in the beginning. Now I know, that there are 2 possibilities: or accepting that models can (and will have) issues, or stop collecting models ...

But I have to admit, the tails of your Tomcat are terrible
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respectfully, the faults you pointed out are tiny. if you find that these faults are below your tolerance level, then diecast warbirds are not for you.

and, it's actually worse than that. your complaints are basically against the washing process that for many of us adds realistic depth and feel to the models. for a number of reasons, hm used to do such washes and no longer does, and the result is that many hm models look comically bad.

the tiny white mark on the nose and the tine black spot on the underside are really your only complaints, and in the spectrum of diecast qa faults and quality issues, they rank to this 2000+ model collector as "small to very small."

everybody's entitled to their own quality standards: i'm simply saying that if your standards are as they appear to be, you may want to consider a different hobby as this model here is actually easily on the better side.
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you may want to come up with an exit strategy to this hobby.
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But I have to admit, the tails of your Tomcat are terrible

I agree. The paint used for the wash had too much accumulation there. This is what I am very careful to avoid when I do weathering of my own models. Apparently, this is a wash done at the factory and must have been rushed and then over looked. Other copies shouldn't have this much of an issue so I think it is safe to say it's a case to case basis. One can also opt to have it exchanged by a better copy of the model by the seller if it is still available.
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Yea these are not "faults" they are done with intention to give it a wash look. It ain't perfect, if you are looking for ZERO faults then diecast models are not meant for you.
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Whew, that's a lot of feedback, for which I am very grateful to you kind gents So my main takeaway is that panel wash is applied to these models, and it seems that CW went overboard on this particular unit. In light of your comments I will leave well enough alone and not chase Jumblies for a replacement.


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Hello Uzair. The grimy look on the model is CW's attempt to represent weathering on the aircraft.
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Hello Uzair,

Your situation sounds familiar.

I have also models (from all companies) with issues. I'm sure every collector has models with issues in his/her collection !

Even the best like CW and HM have issues. I also wanted "perfect" models in the beginning. Now I know, that there are 2 possibilities: or accepting that models can (and will have) issues, or stop collecting models ...

But I have to admit, the tails of your Tomcat are terrible
Ah ok, a fellow perfectionist, thank you for sharing your own experience. This is all a learning curve for me and now I know better for future purchases.

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respectfully, the faults you pointed out are tiny. if you find that these faults are below your tolerance level, then diecast warbirds are not for you.

and, it's actually worse than that. your complaints are basically against the washing process that for many of us adds realistic depth and feel to the models. for a number of reasons, hm used to do such washes and no longer does, and the result is that many hm models look comically bad.

the tiny white mark on the nose and the tine black spot on the underside are really your only complaints, and in the spectrum of diecast qa faults and quality issues, they rank to this 2000+ model collector as "small to very small."

everybody's entitled to their own quality standards: i'm simply saying that if your standards are as they appear to be, you may want to consider a different hobby as this model here is actually easily on the better side.
Great feedback FortunateSon, thank you! I admit to being a perfectionist, but will temper that for future warbirds, while keeping my fingers crossed that the panel wash is done better and defects are minimum.

Interesting also what you say about HM not applying panel wash; so the effect is better on CW F-14s than on HM's? How exactly is panel wash manifested? Is it across the entire body of the plane, or on specific areas (such as the NACA ducts on my sample)?

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you may want to come up with an exit strategy to this hobby.
Hey now, I am a newbie to the hobby and this is my first CW model, and I am here to learn. Your comment is not very helpful.

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I agree. The paint used for the wash had too much accumulation there. This is what I am very careful to avoid when I do weathering of my own models. Apparently, this is a wash done at the factory and must have been rushed and then over looked. Other copies shouldn't have this much of an issue so I think it is safe to say it's a case to case basis. One can also opt to have it exchanged by a better copy of the model by the seller if it is still available.
Thanks for your feedback too, I agree it is overdone on mine, and I won't ask for a replacement since Jumblies have said this is basically how all the AJ100 are like. That said, I really really hope other CW F-14s I plan to buy will be better than this one.

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This looks like a panel or weathering wash gone wrong.
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Yea these are not "faults" they are done with intention to give it a wash look. It ain't perfect, if you are looking for ZERO faults then diecast models are not meant for you.
Alright, alright, message received loud and clear
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By the way guys, can you point me to where I can learn about panel wash is? I have curiosity about it now: what is it exactly, how is it best applied, and to which areas of the aircraft?

I found some resources on weathering but they are more oriented to weathering kit models:

https://www.scalespot.com/reference/...panellines.htm
http://www.finescale.com/how-to/arti...aft-weathering
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/weatheringda_1.htm
http://www.modelairplanenews.com/bas...ng-techniques/
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From your cotton gloves I see you are carefull collector (I use them too btw), anyway from previous replies youŽve probably already found that these "faults" arenŽt faults in fact. Its purely intentional and some worker in CW factory worked hard to fabricate them. On some places maybe its rather overdone, but frankly IMHO the new CW F-14s wouldnŽt be so nice without this wash. And I wouldnŽt be surprised that once you get used to it youŽll start to like this model. But its a question of taste of course.

Your model is in fact one of the better ones. Wanna see what can pass through Century Wings quality control? Check this photo posted by Skruffy1. This is what I call EXTREME. Or the fuselage gaps under canopy on some F-14 models.

Anyway I understand your passion for detail and defect-free models - I myself am very carefull about product imperfections. If you stay with diecast collecting, after some time youŽll learn to make compromises you can live with (my current and very heavy personal fight is whether to buy or not to buy "Pavel Osipovich Sukhoi" from Herpa with very nice scheme but heavily oversprayed colors on the whole production batch - and marketed for exorbitant prices).

About panel wash - its actually not so difficult to panel wash your models with certain techniques. Anyway you have to decide for yourself: panel wash will probably make your models more appealing for you, on the other hand there is general concern that any modification lessens collecting value of the model in case of possible sale. The choice is up to you.
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Yes Ladia, I had gone through Skruffy's post several times, and in fact was some of the inspiration behind my thinking that my own model was unacceptably faulty. If all the "griminess" is indeed panel wash/weathering (done too intensely) then I can live with it, and the white spots on the nosecone are what I would say are the limit of my acceptance of flaws, not really happy about them but will keep the model and hope that other CW models don't have such obvious flaws.

Regarding weathering and panel wash, I actually am a big fan of such models, especially after going through Weathering Model Aircraft by David W. Aungst Going through the photos on this page, I like for example:







To me both these models looks very realistically weathered, and much more "fun" than a pristine looking model.



Exhaust wash such as this example adds another dimension of realism, and I don't think I have seen any diecast models that come with such wash from the factory. As to applying it myself, I would like to give it a shot one day, but doubtful that I can if the requirement is having a full painting setup such as airbrush etc.
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My My how things have changed, 2 months ago had this thread been created it would have had the linch mob after ya how things have changed, for the better.

Mate that's just panel wash trying to simulate weathering, abit overdone but the norm for CW, be glad you get it TBH, not many manus willing to offer it these days.

As for the scratches, that's part of the hobby, I'd say there almost standard features of most models built after 2010. I know it's annoying AF but after awhile you get used to it (kinda) and hope that there underneath the model rather then on top

If you think it sucks starting the hobby like this, think of us that started +10 years ago and know what manus could do with alittle effort.
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My My how things have changed, 2 months ago had this thread been created it would have had the linch mob after ya how things have changed, for the better.

Mate that's just panel wash trying to simulate weathering, abit overdone but the norm for CW, be glad you get it TBH, not many manus willing to offer it these days.

As for the scratches, that's part of the hobby, I'd say there almost standard features of most models built after 2010. I know it's annoying AF but after awhile you get used to it (kinda) and hope that there underneath the model rather then on top

If you think it sucks starting the hobby like this, think of us that started +10 years ago and know what manus could do with alittle effort.
So are you saying that models 10 years ago weren't as good as they are these days? That sounds perversely satisfying, since those of us starting now have to pay much more for models than even a couple years ago (from what I've read), and there are many CW F-14s that cost an arm and a leg for those who did not buy them at release.

Glad I escape the lynch mob Although I felt some of the heat in the comments . I am grateful for all the feedback.
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Lol no no, I mean there was BETTER QC 10 years ago, gez if the QC was like it was now when I bought my first model (Corgi P-47 No Guts, No Glory) I probably would have stopped then and there

Nah these comments are tame compared to before, you'd probably get branded anti Canadian for saying those Arrows you recieved were anything but pure perfection or anti collecting for not jerking off instantly about CW

Sadly we now live in a society that accepts mediocrity as the norm and apologies and excuses are now part of the hobby as well.
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Ah ok, thank you for clarifying your comment.

So - bummer then, we new collectors get shafted on both quality AND QC! Is it therefore correct to say that if I hunt down older CW F-14s (and SR-71s) they should have better quality? This is quite an important point, since I was thinking of focusing more on new CW releases and buying from dealers rather than private sellers on eBay.

Incidentally, have the models from CW, HM, and Corgi improved in other aspects recently, such as better detail, more heft, better paint, sharper tampos, crisper castings, etc?

As to politicking on a hobby site, I stay away from that entirely, and want to focus on the love of the models. In terms of QC, in general I agree with you that for expensive models we should hold the manufacturers to the appropriate level of quality control. If QC was indeed better a decade ago, it begs the question why, despite what should have been improvements in technology and manufacturing processes, the quality has regressed and at the same time prices have risen. I personally feel that if we do not hold the manufacturers accountable they will keep taking shortcuts and that will be to the detriment of the hobby as a whole.

If I have to pay 20% extra for a model to ensure it has correct QC, I will happily do that. The models are already so darn expensive, there is little joy in receiving a new one that has faults that should have never gone past a cursory QC check.
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In terms of CW, older releases MIGHT be better then the current quality.

As for those improvements you mention, I'm sorry to say if anything, things went backwards, blame the cost of doing business, lower skilled factory workers and greed.

I don't think it's unfair to ask for at least decent QC from the factory, some on here might disagree with that and accept anything that comes their way, I'm not one of those people obviously.
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I like it, looks nice. Life is short, nothing is perfect. I would enjoy it
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Ah ok, thank you for clarifying your comment.
So - bummer then, we new collectors get shafted on both quality AND QC!
it's not so simple. yes, older HM releases had better quality and qa. and, CW releases before the 10th anniversary releases were going really downhill. However, the CW that you have is on par with CW's earlier efforts more or less.

The story with HM is more complex. Unlike other manufacturers, HM is now very much a cold blooded business, which is kind of a good thing at times since it means that they will not go bankrupt probably but also it's a bad thing since it means that the love is no longer there in their models like it used to be, especially in the finishes department. Reading between the lines, one of the reasons their models are not as good as they used to be, is, to be frank, because of the following calculation: every bit of detail, complexity, or nuance that you add is a place for something to go wrong. and because in the past a tiny percentage of "perfectionist" customers would routinely return or badmouth items because of microscopic flaws, the solution is to provide less details to keep their distribution chain happy. Mind you - I am not criticizing your personal perfectionist nature - that's your right - but the reality is that it is likely that a small percentage of customers and their habits were a large reason why we have much worse finished models today, at least from HM.

HM continues to overall make superb underlying moulds, and there is always a possibility that they can revert to making better finished aircraft in the future. This is why I and others here who care about these models harp on this theme regularly.

That also said, there's a fine line between a wash and some subtle accenting and actual weathering. Weathering a model is hard, and, even at $100 or $150 people looking for perfection or an artistic weathering job may be asking for more than can be delivered. a few companies tried 'weathered' models out of the box - but the results generally have been not great.

The good news is that some companies are responding to the quality gap at the higher end. CW's anniversary releases are part of this. And, Air Commander with its phantoms are getting very positive reception from many here including me. Others of us have floated the idea that HM should make a 'premium' line, perhaps costing 50% more with more detail, washes, and tighter finishes. I know I'd be all over that as would a lot of people here who are, frankly, uninspired by many of the releases these days.

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Castings overall better yes. All else has gotten worse, with HM's paint having gotten MUCH worse.


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ok, but, respectfully, from your previous post we saw clearly that you don't know what 'appropriate level' is given the state of the industry. and that's part of the issue - expectations. right now some new collectors expect too much while others settle for crap. HM kind of changed as a company when they realized that their F-35, which is easily one of their worst moulds, was one of their best sellers. Suddenly, they don't release as many F3Fs as they used to, even though those were spectacular.

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the manfuacturers will blame labour prices. they are not being entirely truthful as the price increases and quality decreases far exceed labour cost increases. and then we've had people here claiming that the cost of the metal or paint is a factor. those people can be safely ignored .

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I totally agree. But, if you returned your CW (which is your right) tomcat based on those "flaws", you'd be in toto contributing to the downward trend that we saw. I'm not saying "don't return it" ; it's your money and you have a right to do this if it does not satisfy you. But, that's the reality of how we got here to a large extent.

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I personally feel that if we do not hold the manufacturers accountable they will keep taking shortcuts and that will be to the detriment of the hobby as a whole.
Ultimately it's down to the market on what quality is acceptable to them. If you keep the model then it's sending a message to the manufacturer you're happy with it. Nothing wrong with that if you truely are happy with it. After all, the hobby is about buying the models you like.

I have no regrets about not buying the HM blue F-15 but at the same time - fair enough if others buy the model because the wrong color isn't a deal breaker for them.

That said, the diecast car hobby doesn't look particularly good with an increasing number of sealed models and use of plastic where previously it was metal
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Actually returning the model probably just annoys the dealer, the only real way to send a message is research your models, check out real final examples of the model and then make a decision not to buy in the first place.

This will leave dealers with a surplus of models they can't move and that's when the dealer gets back to the manu with a big "Please explain why these units aren't moving "

The manu has already made their $$$ from the dealers, they won't care what you or I say but they will care if dealers stop stocking their models or less of them or become savvy to what's rubbish and what's not.

Models like the USS pOOp vigi, Ukr Su-27, all 3 camo MiG-23s should never of been allowed to leave the factory let alone hit shelves.
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they will care if dealers stop stocking their models or less of them or become savvy to what's rubbish and what's not.
...and ultimately that is down to the market whether a model sells or not.
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Old 04-08-2017, 07:16 AM   #23 (permalink)
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FortunateSon, Eagle_Flyer, and Ukrainian_Falcons: you guys have given me a veritable treasure trove of information which I had no clue about. so you have my deepest thanks.

Not that things you have reported are positive, most of it is depressing reading. I am sorry for example that HM's paint is much worse than before, and there aren't really any additional details to compensate for the rise in prices. Count me among those who would happily pay a 50% premium for HM to have superbly executed and finished models. For me quality trumps quantity. Display space is always at a premium and that means anything on display had better be damn good.

Going by your info that CW's anniversary releases are better than the rest, how do I identify them? Do they all state "anniversary" in the name? A look at their F-14 page does not offer any clues, at least on the index page.


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Actually returning the model probably just annoys the dealer, the only real way to send a message is research your models, check out real final examples of the model and then make a decision not to buy in the first place.

This will leave dealers with a surplus of models they can't move and that's when the dealer gets back to the manu with a big "Please explain why these units aren't moving "

The manu has already made their $$$ from the dealers, they won't care what you or I say but they will care if dealers stop stocking their models or less of them or become savvy to what's rubbish and what's not.

Models like the USS pOOp vigi, Ukr Su-27, all 3 camo MiG-23s should never of been allowed to leave the factory let alone hit shelves.
Very well put. The dealers are the ones between a rock and a hard place. If I had bought directly from CW I would have pushed them much harder. I think the least we should do on having a mildly faulty model is to get the dealer to have a word with the manu.

Speaking of the diecast car industry, it is on a downward spiral as well. Autoart is (was?) one of the best, but they have an utterly ****e new idea of marketing plastic models as "composite" as if people will think "oooh composites, is that like the carbon-fiber composite in F1 cars and fancy tennis rackets?" CMC and Exoto remain the best, really high detail with part counts of 1500 to 2600, but their prices are gradually going out of reach of even diehard collectors such as myself.

I have vowed that for my diecast warbirds I will ONLY get maximum metal bodied models, so CW and AC look very attractive. And decals are a no-go, they can fade, crack, yellow, or peel over time. If I wanted plastic models with decals I would build high-detail plastic kits, and get much better detail than any diecast.

As to the particular Black Aces F-14 that started this discussion, I am keeping it, if for no other reason than it is is my first CW and thus somewhat special. I will not be too happy about the mark on the nosecone, but based on all the feedback received here my model is just about acceptable.

I also realize I should have framed my original post better. I actually meant to link to Skruffy's post about his AJ200 and its flaws, in my mind my model had similar problems. I had no clue about panel wash

So, thank you again kind sirs for the information you have given, and I hope to continue to learn from you. I also hope HM come up with the premium line of models we want!
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...and ultimately that is down to the market whether a model sells or not.
Yep, vote with ya wallet, that'll send a clear message.
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FortunateSon, Eagle_Flyer, and Ukrainian_Falcons: you guys have given me a veritable treasure trove of information which I had no clue about. so you have my deepest thanks.

Not that things you have reported are positive, most of it is depressing reading. I am sorry for example that HM's paint is much worse than before, and there aren't really any additional details to compensate for the rise in prices. Count me among those who would happily pay a 50% premium for HM to have superbly executed and finished models. For me quality trumps quantity. Display space is always at a premium and that means anything on display had better be damn good.

Going by your info that CW's anniversary releases are better than the rest, how do I identify them? Do they all state "anniversary" in the name? A look at their F-14 page does not offer any clues, at least on the index page.
The CW Part Number is the clue; any numbers that start with 00 are anniversary.
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That CW models is a beautiful pieces, shame if a distributor got stuck with a return for something that nice.
That is a sellers nightmare, a returned piece cannot be resold easily and at a loss for them.
Lol yes, learn the market if you are going to spend the bucks, die cast can be a terrible hobby for the finicky buyer.

THE reason HM is now sending out their future months production list is that William is looking at the pre-orders to determine how much he should produce. It's his way of getting a feel about what will sell. You are voting with your wallet when you pre-order HM products now.

I do like the idea of voting on-line as well a direct request that a company could then decide to go with production of not. In HM's case, the ability to know what collectors really want along with the ability to add one or two chosen models a month and see if that works is a safe way to build sales.
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A couple of comments. I agree with those who pointed out that the actual issues with this model are fairly tiny ---like the spots---and can be corrected with a dab of paint. As for the attempt at weathering, this demonstrates why it's best for a manufacturer to provide the model in factory fresh mode and let guys like myself do their own weathering.I wonder if the offending smudges can be wiped off using a cotton swab or small brush dipped in thinner? It might be worth a try.
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the most glaring fault imo is the "beware of blast" print. 'nuff said.
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