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Old 09-12-2016, 06:34 AM   #101
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The real aircraft get primer coats. The purpose is to create a better bond for the paint as well make the base coat stronger. Everyone complains about HM's paint wearing off at the wing root. Nothing to complain about there.
If it did get scratched, it would frankly look more realistic to the field aircraft.
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How do we know Calibre will actually paint the zinc primer ? Is it even needed ??

In my short experience in this hobby, there are lots of times these fine models are scratched, showing the bare metal, now we will see yellow zinc primer ? I'm not sure if that's a step up from bare metal
Generally, primer should always be used as it helps the layers of paint adhere to the surface being painted on. This is recommended for both plastic kit and metal models.

Considering the high retail of Calibre models, in theory the brand should be using packaging that doesn't scratch the paint off the model.
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How do we know Calibre will actually paint the zinc primer ? Is it even needed ??

In my short experience in this hobby, there are lots of times these fine models are scratched, showing the bare metal, now we will see yellow zinc primer ? I'm not sure if that's a step up from bare metal
I heard from Calibre Wings and everyone can relax about the zinc chromate.

Dear Dan,

I want to clarify that under no circumstances did I say that we will be painting zinc chromate onto our models.

It is quite silly if you think about it.

What I tried to do, if one can understand that this is a model, is paint the model with what looks like zinc chromate on the test shot model.

It was simply a modeler's attempt at painting a model with a color other than grey primer to demonstrate the model itself before the squadron colors goes onto it.

I figured that if I did it in "zinc chromate" it sort of represents the aircraft fresh out of Grumman.

I didn't think for a moment that people will think that we are trying to apply actual zinc chromate on the model.
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Yes, it was quite silly wasn't it.
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How do we know Calibre will actually paint the zinc primer ? Is it even needed ??

In my short experience in this hobby, there are lots of times these fine models are scratched, showing the bare metal, now we will see yellow zinc primer ? I'm not sure if that's a step up from bare metal
I know Noel thought a Tomcat looked cool in the Zinc chromate so he was thinking of someday maybe producing a model in Zinc Chromate, as if it were on the assembly line or coming off the assembly line. Its not going to be used as an actual primer.
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The real aircraft get primer coats. The purpose is to create a better bond for the paint as well make the base coat stronger. Everyone complains about HM's paint wearing off at the wing root. Nothing to complain about there.
If it did get scratched, it would frankly look more realistic to the field aircraft.
Do you have any real life photos to back that up ?

I've seens lots of aged aircraft but never any that have aged so much the paint has worn down to the primer, I would assume allowing that sort of thing to happen would be a big no no as the sea water / air would quickly eat away at the airframe, which happens even under the best preservation conditions.

So I don't think it adds any realism to the model, it would still just be a defective model.

In any case, its good that Calibre have solved this mystery, I could have sworn everyone on here was talking about the primer as if it was in fact being used as the same purpose as Grumman does
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Go to enough aircraft junkyards and eventually you will see it. Especially in
Gate guards also are great ones to see this, this aircraft sitting in front of Bowling Greens airport, you can see above the USAF lettering:



If you ever go to a GA junkyard, it's all you see due to most having been badly damaged to get there.
I have been both to Boeing and the USAF Museum while they were doing restorations, you get a good view of the layers watching that process.

My CFII insisted I look at old aircraft to get an idea of the construction and a better understanding of air frames. So I go when ever I find a new site. Tons of them here in Ohio. Yes, you do see such examples.
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trip and eagle flyer... guess you guys must be so disappointed now that calwing has come out to say "under no circumstances did I say that we will be painting zinc chromate onto our models."

hmm... i wonder who created the false impression that calwing were indeed gonna give it a zinc chromate PRIMER coat?
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I have no issue with the type of primer, just that the model gets a good coat of primer. Too many HM models where the edge has worn away from the packaging. Yellow silver, black, what ever keeps that final coat on and strong.
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trip and eagle flyer... guess you guys must be so disappointed now that calwing has come out to say "under no circumstances did I say that we will be painting zinc chromate onto our models."

hmm... i wonder who created the false impression that calwing were indeed gonna give it a zinc chromate PRIMER coat?
Exactly where does it say in the thread that I expected Calibre to be putting primer on their models

It doesn't bother me one way or the other if a diecast model gets a coat of primer or not as long as the paint finish looks acceptable to me.
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Soooo collectors should expect their brand new in box models to look like 50 year old gate guards ??
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Exactly where does it say in the thread that I expected Calibre to be putting primer on their models

It doesn't bother me one way or the other if a diecast model gets a coat of primer or not as long as the paint finish looks acceptable to me.
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no, you didn't say you expected calwing to be putting primer on their models... but since it's recommended and they're not, i reckoned you'd be disappointed. guess not.
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Actually all Calibre said was they wouldn't be using 'zinc chromate' which I never really thought they would given it's mainly used to help prevent corosion on real planes?

I don't know whether the reply Dan received rules out any use of 'primer' at all?
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"Soooo collectors should expect their brand new in box models to look like 50 year old gate guards ??

Don't be silly. As noted, primer helps top keep the paint bonded to the model. HM's models have shown wearing from just the packaging, so good coats of paint are just another sign of the extra step being taken for a good model being produced.
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What HM models exactly have been worn down to bare metal in packaging? I am slowly unboxing mine (well over 500) after five moves and haven't found this problem.

Or are you speaking of rub marks on the paint.

And as I said before. I've stripped Corgi, Dragon, HM and CW models and never came across any primer under the paint.

That said. AC dropped the ball on Vandy5. That model could have used a primer before they applied the white paint. You can clearly see how thin the white is in certain spots and the bare metal under it.
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Actually all Calibre said was they wouldn't be using 'zinc chromate' which I never really thought they would given it's mainly used to help prevent corosion on real planes?

I don't know whether the reply Dan received rules out any use of 'primer' at all?
The follow up question is "Does any diecast brand use primer?" I agree with Shawn in terms of the listed - HM, Corgi, CW in that I haven't been able to find any sign of primer being used.
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The follow up question is "Does any diecast brand use primer?" I agree with Shawn in terms of the listed - HM, Corgi, CW in that I haven't been able to find any sign of primer being used.
Ah gotcha, there's another area of improvement for a new premium manufacturer to exploit!
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I have seen a glint of metal on my F-16 wings when unpacking them. That packaging rubs off the paint some times. It's noticeable.

I would love to see primer on a model to up the quality.
I have never stripped a CW model but I am surprised that they don't have primer, the paint quality seems to be a step up on HM.
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Ah gotcha, there's another area of improvement for a new premium manufacturer to exploit!
Not sure there is anything to exploit, collectors will be happy with an acceptable paint finish. They're more inclined to notice a color that is vastly different from the scheme on the real aircraft.

To a certain degree I don't think there's much point in generally comparing brand against brand. Fair enough on a model by model basis eg an F-14. However to say CW is better than HM becomes irrelevant if the collector is say, looking to add an F-105, Hellcat, Hawkeye, Vigi, Viking, Avenger as Century Wings doesn't make those models... but HM does.


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Anything that can be added to differentiate a model from manufacturer to manufacturer is something a company can and regularly do.

I don't think there are that many instances to compare a exact same livery and type from one manufacturer to the other, sometimes but not often.
But characteristics of each to each other, quite valid to note and compare.
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it also comes down to dollars and cents, at the end of the day. in the hands of a master, you could get the most beautiful paint job (with primer!) and tonnes of detailing with a code 3... but at a price. as collectors we view the situation as paying a premium and getting a half-baked job. from a manufacturer's perspective, you get what you pay...
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The only brand I've experienced the paint being rubbed / chipped down to the bare metal is Hobby Master, they seem to apply the least amount of paint on their models and have the worst packaging.

In 6 months of collecting I've notice wing rub marks on Vipers (as Tripoli also pointed out) Skyhawks and even Harriers. Then issues with the nose on Eagles and even on some Starfighters :-(

I bought the Libyan MiG-23 the other week and I really liked that poly foam packaging, the model arrived in probably the most mint condition then any other model from HM

And to be real honest, the Tomcats are also painted a layer of clear finish so that helps protect the matte paint finish underneath anyway, adding a primer is kind of a waste of paint
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The only brand I've experienced the paint being rubbed / chipped down to the bare metal is Hobby Master, they seem to apply the least amount of paint on their models and have the worst packaging.

In 6 months of collecting I've notice wing rub marks on Vipers (as Tripoli also pointed out) Skyhawks and even Harriers. Then issues with the nose on Eagles and even on some Starfighters :-(

I bought the Libyan MiG-23 the other week and I really liked that poly foam packaging, the model arrived in probably the most mint condition then any other model from HM

And to be real honest, the Tomcats are also painted a layer of clear finish so that helps protect the matte paint finish underneath anyway, adding a primer is kind of a waste of paint
least amount of paint is on HM F-18 blue angel's yellow, you can see the blue under that yellow. You forgot the A-10 nose, and many crooked noses for using plastic for a nose.
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Haven't gotten to the F-16s yet. But I haven't seen any issue with the models I have unpacked so far. When it comes to bare spots due to packaging.

As for CW and their paint. Of all the makers, when stripping markings with acetone. Their paint lifts off faster to bare metal than any other brand.

In my experience, HM's base coat is much stronger and resistant to acetone than other brands. I stripped a speckled MiG-21 and did not get to bare metal as easily as CW's models.
Corgi's paint just seems to melt and smear everywhere. Same with Dragon.
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i'd have to agree with shawn there. my hm vipers are fine. just hate their stands. my encounter with chipped paint (horribly so) was with jc military. that was BAD...
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Oddly enough, from my experience, the manufacturer that had the most consistent finish was Witty.

HM models have been decent for the most part. The only HM model in which I felt the finish being a bit sloppy was the blue LN F-15C. All of my F-16s are fine.

My Dragon VF-1 Tomcat is probably the worst. The paint looked as if it had bubbled at one point and there were paint chips straight out of the box. Granted it's an old model and it had probably been sitting in the box for nearly a decade before I purchased it and opened it. I'm currently attempting repairs.
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Oddly enough, from my experience, the manufacturer that had the most consistent finish was Witty.

HM models have been decent for the most part. The only HM model in which I felt the finish being a bit sloppy was the blue LN F-15C. All of my F-16s are fine.

My Dragon VF-1 Tomcat is probably the worst. The paint looked as if it had bubbled at one point and there were paint chips straight out of the box. Granted it's an old model and it had probably been sitting in the box for nearly a decade before I purchased it and opened it. I'm currently attempting repairs.
hey, you're spot on! you could fault ww for inaccurate moulds but not their finish. and yes, my hm ln f15c had scuffed nose. no dtagons though...
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I heard from Calibre Wings and their first painted sample F-14 will be revealed this upcoming weekend at a model show in Tokyo.

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I heard from Calibre Wings and their first painted sample F-14 will be revealed this upcoming weekend at a model show in Tokyo.

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Thanks for info Dan!! looking forward to THAT!! just remember guys, ITS A......................S-A-M-P-L-E!!!
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Thanks for info Dan!! looking forward to THAT!! just remember guys, ITS A......................S-A-M-P-L-E!!!
ya well... let's hope they finally get something shipped out before farnborough
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I heard from Calibre Wings and their first painted sample F-14 will be revealed this upcoming weekend at a model show in Tokyo.

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oh wait... would that be their "zinc chromate" paint sample?
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You sure ? It could be a very early prototype pre production sample, which after the fair, will be smashed with sledge hammers and melted down for fishing sinkers as to not have any proof of it's existence

Brace yourself, non paid for opinion coming soon from a diehard USN collector

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You sure ? It could be a very early prototype pre production sample, which after the fair, will be smashed with sledge hammers and melted down for fishing sinkers as to not have any proof of it's existence

Brace yourself, non paid for opinion coming soon from a diehard USN collector

or my guess is (there, i said it... it's a GUESS) that it could be an alleged plastic model kit all painted up... just so you know how the scheme will look like ("we said it was gonna be a painted SAMPLE... and wanted to give our valued customers an impression of how the actual paint MAY look like. we never said it was going to be on our ACTUAL diecast model... which we are still refining")

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That is a good point Tomcatter, just like that wasn't a clay but oops yes it was clay pre pro prototype sample draft mock-up example master copy object 1 representation

Do we even know they made it and not a master model builder just for the show and we'll get something completely different ???
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That is a good point Tomcatter, just like that wasn't a clay but oops yes it was clay pre pro prototype sample draft mock-up example master copy object 1 representation

Do we even know they made it and not a master model builder just for the show and we'll get something completely different ???
but of course you'll get something completely different. it's a SAMPLE... and as google is my friend, i googled it up and guess what? it's defined as "a small part or quantity intended to show what the whole is like". hence... it's only to show how the paint/print is like, not the underlying model. so yeah, it could well be a plastic donor model to showcase the wolfpack livery... or was it the jolly rogers? dammit... they've announced so many i've lost track which was supposed to be the first of the fleet
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My GUESS is if it's real diecast samples, wonder we get to see both JR & Wolfpack together ?
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Here is what I heard from Calibre Wings.

The sample will be diecast - just not including the final tooling adjustments.

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Hi Dan,

We are in the final stages of the pre-pro sample which we will have on show in Tokyo.

The pre-pro sample is going to be made from test shot parts that are not from the final tooling adjustments.

We would not have had enough time if we waited for the tooling adjustments since the test shot, and then inject and then paint and print, in time for Tokyo show.

Thank you and best regards,
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So basically without adjustments, it's not even close to the final prod version, therefore pointless other then show of how well or poorly their painting is, which judging by their 1:144 viper, needs a **** load of improvement
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So basically without adjustments, it's not even close to the final prod version, therefore pointless other then show of how well or poorly their painting is, which judging by their 1:144 viper, needs a **** load of improvement
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Should see the first painted sample soon.

Calibre wings does have a caveat though as communicated below.

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Hi Dan,

I wanted to give you the heads up that the painted samples that we will be displaying in Tokyo are nowhere near a production piece.

It appears that the factory, though using parts from the 1st test shot, did not follow our painting instructions to the tee and that resulted in unusual colors which we have no time to rectify due to the timing.

I assure collectors that they should not panic and that the correct colors will be shown on a correctly painted production model in a couple of weeks time at most.

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Soooooo the point of even showing a defective model is ?? To look foolish ? Seriously, this is abit amateurish
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deja vu

i wonder... are the colours gonna be 20% darker than it really should be

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Oh dear, this is starting to get my hopes right down the more and more it's "marketed".

I have already cancelled my JR pre-order; right about now I'm wondering should I can the Wolfpack too?
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I'm abit concerned that if the factory could screw up once, they could screw up again, we've seen it all before with Falcon models
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As per the communication from Calibre Wings.

I assure collectors that they should not panic and that the correct colors will be shown on a correctly painted production model in a couple of weeks time at most.


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As per the communication from Calibre Wings.

I assure collectors that they should not panic and that the correct colors will be shown on a correctly painted production model in a couple of weeks time at most.


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Two words: zinc chromate.

I had been pretty excited about these, having both of the first two releases on pre-order.

However, the more different, confused stream of rumour and bs coming from the manufacturer directly, as quoted above for example, I hear the more my doubts grow.

I have already cancelled the JR pre-order because it's not my thing exactly and I was just going to get one as a nice model. I have so far kept the Wolfpack as it fits my themes perfectly too, but I don't know if it's worth the risk when I could just have an HM instead.

Maybe not as good, but definitely what one expects. CalWings? Seems like more and more of a crapshoot every time they open their mouths.

Methinks they doth protest too much...
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Well no one is panicking, it's just a general concern that after 1 model already in the marketplace, they still make such novice errors, they shouldn't have produced a teaser at the 11th hour and now we are expected to make a leap of faith over this silly attempt to generate hype
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:31 PM   #148
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"the sky is falling! the sky is falling!"



me thinks the only ones who are panicking is some manu who promised a good show at some exhibition but are now left with an embarrassingly painted model which they have no choice but to display since they've already committed to showcase their product. and how convenient... blame the factory hands for a screw up and tell people not to panic. again i ask the question... who's panicking?

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I love the drama on this forum!
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So they op up a note saying the colors will be refined. Still get to see how sharp the paint job will be and how much details they place. As well how the base will look painted.

HM's first painted prototype was a disaster and they are doing decent now. These things take time and Calibre is trying to appease the impatient. So from a picky collector myself, give them some room on this.
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