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Old 03-31-2016, 07:11 PM   #151
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top one is old, bottom is revised. Should be bottom just fixed
Prefer the top and not the day-glo bottom orange.
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Nice going Steve - much appreciated sharing the info and it is a relief knowing that these issues are being addressed - however, I would have still bought this model as no matter what it will look great beside the F-4
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Prefer the top and not the day-glo bottom orange.


It looks great when looking at the whole jet though
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Nice going Steve - much appreciated sharing the info and it is a relief knowing that these issues are being addressed - however, I would have still bought this model as no matter what it will look great beside the F-4
this one will definitely be my favorite, sorry Iranian....into the also like category you go
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It looks great when looking at the whole jet though
Sure does! Lots of shelf presence with this one.
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I didn't mean anything by saying you're a "chosen one", all that means is that you seem to have a relationship with Hobby Master/ William that the vast majority of us do not have. I understand you've actually met William in person, correct? I was simply implying that if anyone has a credible information regarding Hobby Master, you would probably be as credible as any other."
and the same thing could also be said of you and century wings, o' century wing's chosen one

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I really am not concerned if I come off as a fanboy because if anyone were to look at the two objectively, CW has been constantly berated for years over price, purported QC issues, a lack of customer service etc. while HM's models are handled with kid gloves. HM's prices have skyrocketed compared to how CW's prices have increased over the last several years and yet HM continues to make very significant mistakes on models. There used to be a much wider gap in prices between CW and HM. If they were still around FOV prices, these mistakes would be forgivable but $15 is not a significant gap, especially when CW offers more with their models. (stencils on ordinance/ targeting pods, more ordinance)
if you were objective, you would've realised hm gets equal, if not more cirticism than cw does. it's just that well, cw does so few models and of late, just the tomcats, that the criticisms seem overly intense. hm gets flak but it's spread out... not concentrated.

with regard to pricing, well a lot has to do with the retailers. but i think you wouldn't begrudge the fact that cw prices at pos have soared significantly over the last five years for what is essentially the same mould.

hm's price justification is premised upon new tooling cost. so it's rather a poor comparison between the two. i'm not saying that it is fully justified... i'm just saying that it's hm's justification.

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Admittedly, I don't follow EVERY HM model (I had no idea about the A-26) but I have followed the developments in many and the outrage at HM's mistakes simply does not compare to what CW gets. I see very few threats to cancel pre-orders or people mocking HM as an "elite manufacturer" that puts out rushed models. By the rate that HM cranks out models with significant errors, there have been more than a few rushed HM models.

Yes, the markings are not the exact angle as in real life but I didn't see it as completely ruining the model. If the only photos we had of the model were the ones I reposted, there would be no talk about the angle of the markings because you simply cannot tell. Which means, in my opinion, that it is not a horrendous error. The only thing I have seen from HM that has ever gotten a reaction like that the F-15 blue paint. I hardly consider these markings to be at that level.

Despite being a "fanboy" I try to look at everything objectively and without bias. I always try and give credit where credit is due, even to HM. I just received my S-3 Viking model and I think it is fantastic! It is easily my second favorite model of all time (even with the issues with the main gear doors).
again, i think this is because cw seems to be only doing the tomcats now (blackbirds seem to have become rather insignificant) and tomcats, being as popular as it is (i'm restraining myself from using words like "legendary" or "iconic" here), there's a wealth of information in terms of photos and records. if you notice, hm's tomcats incur as much criticisms. that's my observation, though you're welcome to disagree.

i guess we all point out the deficiencies in the hope that every manufacturer takes heed. some of us may even live with the perceived deficiencies when in fact they were accurate all along. i may have still gone ahead with the erroneous aardvark but knowing that it's being corrected makes it all the better even if it means that i have to wait a couple more months.

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top one is old, bottom is revised. Should be bottom just fixed
I think it is the same orange, CW just ups the contrast a lot in all their pictures for some reason and it makes the colors look off. I think the orange in the Mule's pics is what it will look like in real life.

All I had to do was up the saturation in this picture and there you have it.

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Did someone else recognize, that the black separation stripes are also missing at the tips of horizontal stabilizers and the wingtips? (in addition to the tips of the vertical stabilizers)
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Did someone else recognize, that the black separation stripes are also missing at the tips of horizontal stabilizers and the wingtips? (in addition to the tips of the vertical stabilizers)
Ah this is what was probably missing from the pre pro and why the fin tips look bad, the black stripe would have covered that up

Welcome and well spotted Collector#1, we defo need some more of that German quality control in this hobby

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Ah this is what was probably missing from the pre pro and why the fin tips look bad, the black stripe would have covered that up

Welcome and well spotted Collector#1, we defo need some more of that German quality control in this hobby

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already addressed. #2 of reply back, add black demarcation lines.
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already addressed. #2 of reply back, add black demarcation lines.
Brilliant !!
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Apologies for the OT comment, but it just occurred to me that Dad owned a Ford Escort in that very same blaze orange colour (e.g., the increased saturation pic) back in the 80's. How things have changed!
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Can someone tell me any "NO STEP"s around on the top fuselage of real jet? Thank you.
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Was considering preordering this but the misaligned tail tempos would bug the heck out of me
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Was considering preordering this but the misaligned tail tempos would bug the heck out of me
Have you even bothered reading the posts above?

The corrections are being made on the released model, the pre-pros had the silly errors which have now been corrected thanks to member input & the US importer (The Flying Mule) and it will push out the release to May

Pre-order with confidence if that's your thing, personally I always wait to see other collectors new arrivals first.
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obviously not
yup. obviously not just glanced at pictures and checked out their page which still has the old one in the galley. that's why i love magazines.

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yup. obviously not just glanced at pictures and checked out their page which still has the old one in the galley. that's why i love magazines.
thank heavens for patient posters like themadmajor. some others may not have been so kind when readers don't do their homework
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thank heavens for patient posters like themadmajor. some others may not have been so kind when readers don't do their homework
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Anotheran - I agree it is silly that CW have kept up the images on their site, it is probably doing more harm than good. BUT the main thing is that the corrections are being made and all is well again in the diecast world
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Anotheran - I agree it is silly that CW have kept up the images on their site, it is probably doing more harm than good. BUT the main thing is that the corrections are being made and all is well again in the diecast world
well, since you put it that way, i guess patience is the order of the day

oh well, unless the chosen one tells them to take it down, those pics will remain up until the correction has been done. strangely, still no announcement of the correction and delayed release as they did for the previous corrections. oh well...
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Anotheran - I agree it is silly that CW have kept up the images on their site, it is probably doing more harm than good. BUT the main thing is that the corrections are being made and all is well again in the diecast world
Yes, magazines

Sweet. On the same page as tomcatter, i find it strange that there's no official announcement of the corrections.

But i do like the scheme regardless of which orange they decide to use
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Yes, magazines

Sweet. On the same page as tomcatter, i find it strange that there's no official announcement of the corrections.

But i do like the scheme regardless of which orange they decide to use
there's only one orange. as ffp stated earlier, cw adjusted the saturation levels on their photos. i suppose they do not want to announce to the world they made a schoolboy blunder. oh well, so long as we get the corrected ones...
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I hope they fix up Zott, he's looking pretty average compared to the HM rendition
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I hope they fix up Zott, he's looking pretty average compared to the HM rendition
well, as you can see... zott is already rolling his eyes
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I hope they fix up Zott, he's looking pretty average compared to the HM rendition
well, back then they only had average graphics... no High resolution tampoo printing and Zott didn't have a black outline. Guess zott was, in reality, pretty average.






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Granted the outline is probably not as accurate but he did have a mouth and he didn't have two horns sticking out of his back

Plus the CW version depicts him with lazy eye rather then a cheeky eye
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perhaps this would provide a good comparison? got it off wikipedia...

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perhaps this would provide a good comparison? got it off wikipedia...
Off Wikipedia, oh there never wrong

The black base Zott is standing on looks alittle too small don't you think ?
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Off Wikipedia, oh there never wrong

The black base Zott is standing on looks alittle too small don't you think ?
yeah...and granted, he does appear kinda smaller and biased to the right in that wiki pic compared to the one on the aircraft. my bad.
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Granted the outline is probably not as accurate but he did have a mouth and he didn't have two horns sticking out of his back

Plus the CW version depicts him with lazy eye rather then a cheeky eye
"lazy eyed" no mouth Zott




Do notice the sheen just below the tail on that high-vis bird


Needless to say, Zott has had a few variations over the years. Unfortunately, I can't find any really good close ups of Zott but still, I think you can make out the differences.
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Agreed there have been variations, then I guess what I'm saying then is the one with the mouth and mean looking eyes is the one I would prefer and would match better with HM's spook

As for sheen, I do notice it but do you notice it's that hard to see that you need to pin point a specific location, if it was so obvious you could just say look at the cockpit for example, can we agree to disagree that CW's level of "sheen" is somewhat overkill ?
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notice how the demarcation between the grey and white on the vertical stab virtually cuts across the center of zott? besides levelling the vertical stabs markings, cw may need to adjust that too. zott stands a little further behind.
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Agreed there have been variations, then I guess what I'm saying then is the one with the mouth and mean looking eyes is the one I would prefer and would match better with HM's spook

As for sheen, I do notice it but do you notice it's that hard to see that you need to pin point a specific location, if it was so obvious you could just say look at the cockpit for example, can we agree to disagree that CW's level of "sheen" is somewhat overkill ?
The point is not to match Aardvarks, it's to be the most accurate. While I do think HMs Zott is printed nice and crisp, it would have been much more crude in the 70s, similar to how it looks on CWs.

Pointing out the sheen is to illustrate that fill gray Navy jets had an element of gloss to them. Of course not like a Blue Angel but I think if you look at The Mule's pics, it hardly looks like a glass shine.
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The spooks were around at the same time, back in the 70s
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It's not in their interest to cut corners now with a new challenger in HM. I just hope CW don't muck this up since HM would be unlikely to give us the same livery anytime soon. Will have to check the model in the metal before purchase for sure.
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It's not in their interest to cut corners now with a new challenger in HM. I just hope CW don't muck this up since HM would be unlikely to give us the same livery anytime soon. Will have to check the model in the metal before purchase for sure.
i think that's monsieur ukrainian falcons concern too. if cw screws up the vark, it'll be a long wait for hm to right the wrong.
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i think that's monsieur ukrainian falcons concern too. if cw screws up the vark, it'll be a long wait for hm to right the wrong.
Exactly, so hands off pukin dogs CW !!!!
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All I know is everything I have ordered is delayed, already going stir crazy as is and still have a month and a half wait on everyone of them
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was also making a comment about the resident troll but frankly my dear I don't give a damn.....
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My thoughts exactly.
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New photos are up on the Century Wings website.

CENTURY WINGS Aircraft Diecast Model | 1/72 Scale F-14 | F-14D Tomcat U.S.Navy VF-31 USS Theodore Roosevelt 2006 Tomcatters

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Awesome, hope we are only a few weeks away from getting it feels like its been forever already
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That looks beautiful. Thanks for posting the update. I'm very excited about this release now.
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it does look beautiful doesn't it, I am very glad I pre-ordered it.
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it does look beautiful doesn't it, I am very glad I pre-ordered it.
One of the best IMO. And it will sit so nicely with HM's Aardvarks Spook

I too am glad to have pre-ordered.
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The Mule are saying their allocation is sold out on pre-order already!
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