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Old 01-07-2016, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So what's the difference between Witty and Dragon's Super Bug...?? I have several Witty's but have never owned a Dragon, looking at pictures on the net I can't really see any huge differences, but I'd like to hear from people that have owned both and had the opportunity to compare them side by side. Thanks.
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So what's the difference between Witty and Dragon's Super Bug...?? I have several Witty's but have never owned a Dragon, looking at pictures on the net I can't really see any huge differences, but I'd like to hear from people that have owned both and had the opportunity to compare them side by side. Thanks.
Dragon's Super Bug is inaccurate, as it has a hinged airbrake between the engine exhausts- only the legacy Hornet actually has this. The real Super Bug has slats (early version) or pipes (recent version) on top of each exhaust nacelle in place of this, as do Witty's models- therefore, Witty's Super Bugs are correct, Dragon's are not.
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Dragon's Super Bug is inaccurate, as it has a hinged airbrake between the engine exhausts- only the legacy Hornet actually has this. The real Super Bug has slats (early version) or pipes (recent version) on top of each exhaust nacelle in place of this, as do Witty's models- therefore, Witty's Super Bugs are correct, Dragon's are not.
Huh, well I had no idea, but that's why I posed the question, so thank you very much for that info Wilkins. That's what I love about this place, there's always someone willing to share information and/or their experiences with specific brands or types of model.
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Huh, well I had no idea, but that's why I posed the question, so thank you very much for that info Wilkins. That's what I love about this place, there's always someone willing to share information and/or their experiences with specific brands or types of model.
I've never bought a Dragon Super Bug, but I know of the airbrake issue- there may be others also, but that's the one that springs to mind.
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Not all Dragons have the speed brake issue.
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Huh, well I had no idea, but that's why I posed the question, so thank you very much for that info Wilkins. That's what I love about this place, there's always someone willing to share information and/or their experiences with specific brands or types of model.
Ditto that.
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Not all Dragons have the speed brake issue.
I have never seen or heard of any that have the correct slat or pipe arrangement as per Witty.
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Not all Dragons have the speed brake issue.
Any idea which ones..??
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Any idea which ones..??
My Dragon Wings VFA-41 Black Aces is one that does not have the speedbrake error. While it looks decent, the biggest issue was all of the fiddly bits. There's a ton of it and every single piece needed glue and/or hobby knife work.

The speedbrake error was on the early releases. IIRC another error that was on the early releases was AMRAAM missiles on the wingtips. Dunno if both the speedbrake and the wingtip AMRAAMs were fixed at the sametime though...
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I have the Black Aces one too and it looks ok for a diecast plane. However on mine, the landing gear was a pain to install and it wasn't strong enough to support the model. Only other comment mentioned at the time were the weapon pylons should be angled away from the fuselage. On the model they are dead parallel. All that aside it is a nice enough scheme.
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My Dragon Wings VFA-41 Black Aces is one that does not have the speedbrake error. While it looks decent, the biggest issue was all of the fiddly bits. There's a ton of it and every single piece needed glue and/or hobby knife work.

The speedbrake error was on the early releases. IIRC another error that was on the early releases was AMRAAM missiles on the wingtips. Dunno if both the speedbrake and the wingtip AMRAAMs were fixed at the sametime though...
Thats part of the reason I dislike my Dragon F-14 the most out of any I've owned. It is easily the most fragile one of the bunch. From the very first time I was putting it together I felt it more like a delicate builder model than a diecast model. Seems like everything on it will break with the slightest pressure. The gears wouldnt hold the weight of the model either and the stand is very flimsy. Glue shouldnt be a requirement for diecast models.
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Thats part of the reason I dislike my Dragon F-14 the most out of any I've owned. It is easily the most fragile one of the bunch. From the very first time I was putting it together I felt it more like a delicate builder model than a diecast model. Seems like everything on it will break with the slightest pressure. The gears wouldnt hold the weight of the model either and the stand is very flimsy. Glue shouldnt be a requirement for diecast models.
Agree, absolutely. Only in the most infrequent cases should glue be necessary.

Thanks for all the input guys, it's much appreciated.
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Dragon 'fiddly bits' are a continual pain. I have a few dragons - F-14s, 15s, 16s, 18s etc. The effort required to put them together (particularly wheels-down with undercarriage doors open) is horrible and frustrating. Weapons are obviously supplied in 'quick-release' mode. Blu-tack, glue, double-sided tape - I've got it all. I've even had to give up and resort to the superglue once or twice.

Whenever a door is slammed in my house (teenage girl tantrums - never!), I always check the display cabinet, sigh, and start planning the repair/re-attachment job.

One of these days, I am going to see if a diecast model can really fly - right across the room..............................................
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