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ArcLight 01-07-2016 07:23 PM

Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
So what's the difference between Witty and Dragon's Super Bug...?? I have several Witty's but have never owned a Dragon, looking at pictures on the net I can't really see any huge differences, but I'd like to hear from people that have owned both and had the opportunity to compare them side by side. Thanks.

wilkinss77 01-07-2016 08:19 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by ArcLight (Post 1679409)
So what's the difference between Witty and Dragon's Super Bug...?? I have several Witty's but have never owned a Dragon, looking at pictures on the net I can't really see any huge differences, but I'd like to hear from people that have owned both and had the opportunity to compare them side by side. Thanks.

Dragon's Super Bug is inaccurate, as it has a hinged airbrake between the engine exhausts- only the legacy Hornet actually has this. The real Super Bug has slats (early version) or pipes (recent version) on top of each exhaust nacelle in place of this, as do Witty's models- therefore, Witty's Super Bugs are correct, Dragon's are not.

ArcLight 01-07-2016 08:33 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by wilkinss77 (Post 1679521)
Dragon's Super Bug is inaccurate, as it has a hinged airbrake between the engine exhausts- only the legacy Hornet actually has this. The real Super Bug has slats (early version) or pipes (recent version) on top of each exhaust nacelle in place of this, as do Witty's models- therefore, Witty's Super Bugs are correct, Dragon's are not.

Huh, well I had no idea, but that's why I posed the question, so thank you very much for that info Wilkins. That's what I love about this place, there's always someone willing to share information and/or their experiences with specific brands or types of model.

wilkinss77 01-07-2016 09:00 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by ArcLight (Post 1679537)
Huh, well I had no idea, but that's why I posed the question, so thank you very much for that info Wilkins. That's what I love about this place, there's always someone willing to share information and/or their experiences with specific brands or types of model.

I've never bought a Dragon Super Bug, but I know of the airbrake issue- there may be others also, but that's the one that springs to mind.

chrisdamage 01-07-2016 09:20 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
Not all Dragons have the speed brake issue.

Kangaroo 01-07-2016 09:21 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcLight (Post 1679537)
Huh, well I had no idea, but that's why I posed the question, so thank you very much for that info Wilkins. That's what I love about this place, there's always someone willing to share information and/or their experiences with specific brands or types of model.

Ditto that.

wilkinss77 01-07-2016 09:25 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by chrisdamage (Post 1679593)
Not all Dragons have the speed brake issue.

I have never seen or heard of any that have the correct slat or pipe arrangement as per Witty.

ArcLight 01-07-2016 09:51 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by chrisdamage (Post 1679593)
Not all Dragons have the speed brake issue.

Any idea which ones..??

AIRWOLF 01-08-2016 12:15 AM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by ArcLight (Post 1679665)
Any idea which ones..??

My Dragon Wings VFA-41 Black Aces is one that does not have the speedbrake error. While it looks decent, the biggest issue was all of the fiddly bits. There's a ton of it and every single piece needed glue and/or hobby knife work.

The speedbrake error was on the early releases. IIRC another error that was on the early releases was AMRAAM missiles on the wingtips. Dunno if both the speedbrake and the wingtip AMRAAMs were fixed at the sametime though...

Eagle_Flyer 01-08-2016 05:06 AM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
I have the Black Aces one too and it looks ok for a diecast plane. However on mine, the landing gear was a pain to install and it wasn't strong enough to support the model. Only other comment mentioned at the time were the weapon pylons should be angled away from the fuselage. On the model they are dead parallel. All that aside it is a nice enough scheme.

steveNfl 01-08-2016 07:56 AM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by AIRWOLF (Post 1679817)
My Dragon Wings VFA-41 Black Aces is one that does not have the speedbrake error. While it looks decent, the biggest issue was all of the fiddly bits. There's a ton of it and every single piece needed glue and/or hobby knife work.

The speedbrake error was on the early releases. IIRC another error that was on the early releases was AMRAAM missiles on the wingtips. Dunno if both the speedbrake and the wingtip AMRAAMs were fixed at the sametime though...

Thats part of the reason I dislike my Dragon F-14 the most out of any I've owned. It is easily the most fragile one of the bunch. From the very first time I was putting it together I felt it more like a delicate builder model than a diecast model. Seems like everything on it will break with the slightest pressure. The gears wouldnt hold the weight of the model either and the stand is very flimsy. Glue shouldnt be a requirement for diecast models.

ArcLight 01-08-2016 09:06 AM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
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Originally Posted by steveNfl (Post 1680265)
Thats part of the reason I dislike my Dragon F-14 the most out of any I've owned. It is easily the most fragile one of the bunch. From the very first time I was putting it together I felt it more like a delicate builder model than a diecast model. Seems like everything on it will break with the slightest pressure. The gears wouldnt hold the weight of the model either and the stand is very flimsy. Glue shouldnt be a requirement for diecast models.

Agree, absolutely. Only in the most infrequent cases should glue be necessary.

Thanks for all the input guys, it's much appreciated.

Wallaby 01-08-2016 04:50 PM

Re: Dragon versus Witty Super Hornet
 
Dragon 'fiddly bits' are a continual pain. I have a few dragons - F-14s, 15s, 16s, 18s etc. The effort required to put them together (particularly wheels-down with undercarriage doors open) is horrible and frustrating. Weapons are obviously supplied in 'quick-release' mode. Blu-tack, glue, double-sided tape - I've got it all. I've even had to give up and resort to the superglue once or twice.

Whenever a door is slammed in my house (teenage girl tantrums - never!), I always check the display cabinet, sigh, and start planning the repair/re-attachment job.

One of these days, I am going to see if a diecast model can really fly - right across the room..............................................


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