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Old 12-03-2015, 05:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This should be a fun one... Who makes the best, or at least a decent Panavia Tornado in 1/72 diecast..?? The only ones I'm aware of right off the top of my head are Witty, and I think Corgi. The Tornado has never really been on my "radar" as a collecting interest, but with the UK now getting in on the action with Tornado strikes against ISIS I may have reconsider having one or two Tornado's in my fleet, you know, to show my support for our British friends and all.

Nice article here on the impending RAF anti ISIS strikes for anyone who cares about such things......

UK Orders Attacks On Islamic State In Syria, Royal Air Force Airstrikes Imminent*
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This should be a fun one... Who makes the best, or at least a decent Panavia Tornado in 1/72 diecast..?? The only ones I'm aware of right off the top of my head are Witty, and I think Corgi. The Tornado has never really been on my "radar" as a collecting interest, but with the UK now getting in on the action with Tornado strikes against ISIS I may have reconsider having one or two Tornado's in my fleet, you know, to show my support for our British friends and all.

Nice article here on the impending RAF anti ISIS strikes for anyone who cares about such things......

UK Orders Attacks On Islamic State In Syria, Royal Air Force Airstrikes Imminent*
The Corgi, the best GR.4 was the 31 Sqn with Brimstone missiles, Op Ellamy (Libya) one is due for release shortly .

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Old 12-03-2015, 06:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What abt 111 Sqn, RAF Leuchars, Scotland 201?
This is air to air configuration
Is it good?
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Now that I think of it Revell used to make a 1/72 diecast Tornado, there was at least one RAF version and and a Luftwaffe version as best I can recall, I seem to remember people gave these fairly high marks compared to the Witty and Corgi versions, but I don't think very many were made, and I imagine they're scarce as hens teeth now.

Revell 08206 - Tornado Diecast Model, RAF No.17 Sqn, Squadron 75th Anniversary: The Flying Mule
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Corgi. Definitely. Tornado wasn´t my favourite plane, but after getting this Corgi Bundesmarine I must say that Tornado looks really great on the shelf with its moving wings!





BTW, here is Tornado thread from other forum.
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That does look nice Ladia, thanks for the pics...
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Very nice pic Ladia, thanks for sharing - this Tornado would make an excellent addition to my expanding collection
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I have both a Corgi GR4 (Dambusters) and GR3(Leuchars) - something about the GR4 - it looks much meaner and more business-like.
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I can't vouch for accuracy, and it's no longer the pinnacle of diecast technology by a long shot, but i've always had a soft spot for this guy:



who holds his own nicely in person.

i have one of the newer marque tornadoes from corgi it's kind of bleh, but then again so is the real aircraft on the ground - however, it is in my opinion a star of airshows with a sound and smoothness like silk..

the witty ones i wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
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Old 12-04-2015, 06:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Not RAF obviously, but the German navy Tonka is in my eyes the best one to have. And one of my all time favourite die cast models in my collection.

Most RAF schemes are in my eyes circus birds that I don't like. It would have been much more interesting if Corgi had done more operational schemes on GR1s/GR1As and even GR3s. The all over light grey scheme they fly in nowadays isn't very attractive as there are hardly any noticeable markings on them.
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The Corgi is fine but I think the Revell shades it for detail although it is wheels down only and scheme selection not all that good!! Don't think the wings swing either. Witty and Corgi make the F3, both far from ideal
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Witty and Corgi make the F3, both far from ideal
what's wrong with them???? I am not an expert, but like the look of the all black lechars. sorry for large pics!



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Old 12-04-2015, 12:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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On the Corgi the nosecone tip/pitot need improved,I replaced mine with a turned brass pitot from Master .
For the Witty, it needs new cockpit canopy, straight edge to the intakes ,anhedral not dihedral on the wing, main u/c legs corrected, correct pylons and weapons, tail is wrong shape ...................
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On the Corgi the nosecone tip/pitot need improved,I replaced mine with a turned brass pitot from Master .
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well that would not bother me. I don't 'know' the difference or minor inaccuracies. all models look great once on display! there will never be a 'perfect' model.
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The Corgi nose looks too straight to me rather than having a gentle curve downwards. This may also be the reason it doesn't appear long enough. Corgi air intakes often look too straight as well and the fuselage spine angle doesn't look right. The black finish is more forgiving though. Anyway, all in the eye of the beholder and each to their own!!
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Years ago I had the RAF Tornado from Revell, at the time I thought it was a pretty nice model, far superior to the Witty model from what I can remember. I can't comment on the Corgi because I've never owned one.

Some nice pics of the Revell RAF and Luftwaffe Tornado's....

Revell 08206 - Tornado Diecast Model, RAF No.17 Sqn, Squadron 75th Anniversary: The Flying Mule

Revell 08202 - Tornado Diecast Model, Luftwaffe JBG 32, RAF Fairford, England: The Flying Mule

Unfortunately these seem to have disappeared completely, I haven't seen one for sale anywhere.
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Even with its faults, the Corgi Tonka is a great Model and the german Marine scheme is one of my favourites too.

Btw, you might want to switch the pylons on your Tornado. The Sidewinders should be on the inner side, towards the fuselage.

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Old 12-05-2015, 12:59 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Don´t know why but the german Marine scheme is so great looking. I like it so much that last week I´ve decided to go into crazy 1/18 Starfighter in German Marine colors. Great-looking and truly superkingsized model - maybe one meter long!

Thanks for Sidewinders notice. Its not mine Tornado, these nice photos aren´t mine, quickly found them on the web, I believe credits (and left- right ordnance interchange) should go to Aegean Ghost. But it looks like maybe just some kind of momentary inattention since some of his other Tonkas have it correct.

Anyway good comment, bragadox.
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I can't vouch for accuracy, and it's no longer the pinnacle of diecast technology by a long shot, but i've always had a soft spot for this guy:
who holds his own nicely in person.
Totally agree. Sorry I missed the opportunity to get on when when it was available.
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:01 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The Corgi is fine but I think the Revell shades it for detail although it is wheels down only and scheme selection not all that good!! Don't think the wings swing either. Witty and Corgi make the F3, both far from ideal
The wings on the Revell do indeed swing, as per ArcLight's link to TFM.

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The Corgi nose looks too straight to me rather than having a gentle curve downwards. This may also be the reason it doesn't appear long enough. Corgi air intakes often look too straight as well and the fuselage spine angle doesn't look right. The black finish is more forgiving though. Anyway, all in the eye of the beholder and each to their own!!
But you contradicted yourself there & later in your last post, by first saying the Corgi's fine, then saying it's far from ideal, & now pointing out its faults...

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Years ago I had the RAF Tornado from Revell, at the time I thought it was a pretty nice model, far superior to the Witty model from what I can remember. I can't comment on the Corgi because I've never owned one.

Some nice pics of the Revell RAF and Luftwaffe Tornado's....

Revell 08206 - Tornado Diecast Model, RAF No.17 Sqn, Squadron 75th Anniversary: The Flying Mule

Revell 08202 - Tornado Diecast Model, Luftwaffe JBG 32, RAF Fairford, England: The Flying Mule

Unfortunately these seem to have disappeared completely, I haven't seen one for sale anywhere.
The main fault the Revell Tonka (& their other diecasts) had was a fixed canopy & therefore no way to display the superb detailed cockpit properly.
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The Revell tonka is infact a diecast version of the excellent plastic kit
It is a IDS version so not quite accurate for a GR1 but you will only know that if you know what you are looking for.
Shame that Revell did not continue with this range,have all 3 they released.
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what's wrong with them???? I am not an expert, but like the look of the all black lechars. sorry for large pics!



The all black Leuchars scheme is slick Robert, I like it although it is a shame they didn't do any black drop tanks. I have an RAF Coningsby F-3 and I like it, the ADV has a sleek look to it. I don't have any IDS Tonkas as of yet but I have seen a Norway Arctic Camo version on eBay in the past that I really liked.
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The Revell tonka is infact a diecast version of the excellent plastic kit
It is a IDS version so not quite accurate for a GR1 but you will only know that if you know what you are looking for.
Shame that Revell did not continue with this range,have all 3 they released.

What is the other one besides the two I listed above, ie. RAF No. 17 Sqn. and Luftwaffe JBG 32..??
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The wings on the Revell do indeed swing, as per ArcLight's link to TFM.

But you contradicted yourself there & later in your last post, by first saying the Corgi's fine, then saying it's far from ideal, & now pointing out its faults...

The main fault the Revell Tonka (& their other diecasts) had was a fixed canopy & therefore no way to display the superb detailed cockpit properly.
The Corgi GR1 is good enough, I was referring to the F3 regarding faults but obviously should have made it clearer. Guilty as charged on the Revell 'swing' wings and on 2 x counts 1) as I didn't look at the attached photos and 2) I have that model !!!!
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What is the other one besides the two I listed above, ie. RAF No. 17 Sqn. and Luftwaffe JBG 32..??

17sqn and two luftwaffe tigermeet sqn jets one grey camo and the other lizard camo scheme.
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The Revell tonka is infact a diecast version of the excellent plastic kit
It is a IDS version so not quite accurate for a GR1 but you will only know that if you know what you are looking for.
Shame that Revell did not continue with this range,have all 3 they released.
I'm not that much of an expert for the Tornado, so, if you want to, it would be nice if you could tell us about the differences we have to look for?

So far, i only know about the two "fins" at both sides of the vertical stabilizer which are present at the british GR versions, but not at the german IDS/ECR variants.

At this point, the Revell models are more accurate than Corgis effort which always have the fins (and therefore not correct fot he german IDS) :


RAF with the fins at the vert stab.


Luftwaffe without the fins.

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