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Old 11-01-2015, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I've been away from the forum for quite a while. The demands of career and family got to be kind of overwhelming so I had to put diecast collecting on the back burner for quite a long time. long story short, I'm retired now and have plenty of free time so I want to get back in to the hobby. I've been lurking here for a few weeks, just kind of "reading the mail" to see what's going on these days in the hobby. I'm glad to see some of the regulars are still around like SuperKungFu. he always had a great collection, and a lot of passion for the hobby, and he still does. I still have a fair number of models from the old days stored away, most are brand new in the box, and I'm going to slowly start bringing these out into the light of day from the dark crypt they been stored in. I'm also making some new purchases, and I wanted to get some info and/or an opinion on a model I just ordered... It's a Saab Gripen from Aviation 72 in Swedish Air Force Livery, it looks like a nice and well executed diecast model, but I've never heard of this company, and they don't have an extensive product line. I'm attaching a pic I grabbed off the net. I got mine from Aikens, but the Mule carries them as well. Would love hear opinions etc from anybody that has one or has seen one "in the flesh", thanks.
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Old 11-01-2015, 02:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome back ArcLight.

Av72 aren't a top level manufacturer, but if you want a Gripen then your really looking at the lower end of the market manufacturer wise anyway. The choices seem to be between them and IXO/Altaya or MLC which is based on, but seems better than, the IXO models.

I've only got an Av72 Swordfish, which is a similar standard to Oxford diecast, but far inferior to Corgi (which i'm looking to replace it with).

Don't know if that helps much?
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Old 11-01-2015, 02:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey thanks for the reply and the info wildblood. Just looking at some of the pics available on the net, which are mostly not of the best quality, the IXO and A72 seem to be fairly similar in terms of build quality. I dredged up this old thread from the hangar pub that has some pretty good quality images of the same livery I'm getting, and at least in the pics it looks fairly decent...

Aviation72 AV7243001 Swedish Air Force Saab Gripen 7/02 - January 2015 Release - PRE PRODUCTION PHOTOS in AVIATION 72 Forum

At any rate, as you noted there aren't a lot of choices for the Gripen in 1/72 diecast, and I just ordered a number of models from Aikens and needed one more to put me over the top for the free shipping, so I decided to go for the A72 Gripen, maybe not the best, but at least a gap filler till something better comes along. Thanks again for the reply.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome back ArcLight!

Of their SAAB fighters you want to stay away of the Draken. That is one monstrous miscarriage. In overall shape the Gripen and especially the Viggen are alright. Detail is lacking a bit, no cockpit detailing as far as I know and I think they're only gear down.
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Is anyone familiar with the Air Force 1 1:72 Chengdu J-10 PLAAF fighter models, I wanted to know how the quality was, is it any good..??
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Is anyone familiar with the Air Force 1 1:72 Chengdu J-10 PLAAF fighter models, I wanted to know how the quality was, is it any good..??
Have you taken a look at this discussion thread?

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ht=chengdu+j10
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Is anyone familiar with the Air Force 1 1:72 Chengdu J-10 PLAAF fighter models, I wanted to know how the quality was, is it any good..??
I have one coming in from Aikens in the next day or so, I can post some pics and my general impressions of it if you like. In general, they look like a decent model, not great, but not terrible either. They are sometimes marketed as "gaincorp" by some Chinese sellers on places like ebay, and I have heard some people say, or at least suggest that AF1 bought up gaincorps molds and tooling, don't know if that's true or not and GC never made a 1/72 J-10 as best that I recall, but they did make a 1/48 J-10 and I had one for a while and I personally thought it was a pretty good model. I'm attaching a pic of the GC 1/48 J-10 I had just for fun. AF1 makes a pretty nice SU-35, I have one of those coming in as well, somebody here did a nice review with nice pics on them, and he was very positive about the overall quality of the model, so I think that bodes well for the 1/72 J-10, but we'll see. Hope this helps. Click on pic to enlarge...
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi ArcLight,
have to say that Gripen from Aviation 72 has several issues. Not saying its totally terrible but has quite a lot of inaccuracies starting from odd nose, canopy and cannon shape etc. over poor detailling up to slightly cheap overall look.

Instead would suggest you Gripen from IXO / Altaya which resembles real Gripen much more accurately; maybe you would be happier with this:

(bought in modelyletadel.cz shop, Czech AF, Tiger Meeting)



(Swedish AF, photo from Jumbliesmodels.com but out of stock currently)

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Hi ArcLight,
Saab Gripen from Aviation 72 is not very good model, actually it is quite terrible and cheap looking model with lot of mistakes, starting from nose shape, canopy, cannon, detailling and overall look. You won´t be very happy with it.

Much happier you will be with Gripen from IXO / Altaya:
Thanks for offering up your comments and opinions Ladia, I'm going to reserve judgement till I have had a chance to get a good look at the model. What's up with nose on that IXO..?? It looks like it has a cap on the end of it or something, which doesn't look anything like the real AC in my opinion. (pic of a swedish gripen attached) At any rate, to some extent these things tend to be a matter of personal preference and if you prefer the IXO that's cool, and thanks anyway for offering your opinion. Aikens has a real good return policy, so if it just looks really awful I can always return it.
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Old 11-02-2015, 12:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Absolutely, ArcLight - best way is to compare all the flaws / good points of each model when you see both of them directly in the flesh. I luckily did have such chance and so my decision was so easy and my opinion so straightforward: IXO / Altaya did their homeworks better than Aviation 77 in case of Gripen.
Although you are completely right with the slightly bulky nose on IXO (and have to say that on the real model this looks only 3,84 - 6,25% better ), however for me this was only one big issue on IXO Gripen against so many substantial shape issues of AV77.

To be honest I would say that correct or incorrect shape isn´t matter of taste, opinion or personal preference, but rather matter of (more or less) exact geometrical comparation of model vs. blueprints or photos. But of course - totally personal is then how everybody is perceiving and evaluating these differencies for himself. What means absolutely nothing to someone can be a deal breaker for other. Which is actually very nice because everybody can love "his" model then - no matter how bad or how good it looks. What I´m trying to say is that finally you can be perfectly happy with your AV77 Gripen.

I´ve also edited my previous post to be less critical (..even when my opinion remains the same )
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