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Old 07-26-2015, 02:52 AM   #1
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Default Best of Corgi's 1/72 bombers? (B17, Lanc, He 111 etc.)

Hey guys,

At some point I'd really like to get a B17, but realize my timing is off considering there hasn't been a new one for a while. Still I've found a couple that are reasonable. I'm aware of the general issues with the mold, such as age, nose section and machine guns lacking detail. AF1's mold might be ok, but I doubt it.

Out of Memphis Belle (AA33301 Corgi AA33301 - B-17 Flying Fortress Diecast Model, USAAF 91st BG, 324th BS, "Memphis Belle": The Flying Mule, guessing this one was the first one) and "Ye olde Pub" which actual B17 is nicer? Is some of the detail better on the later model?

Would just like to know opinions on the B17, ignoring the fact the BF 109 comes with the later model (would cost me a bit more anyway)

Also, considering the fact that the AA32619 Lancaster is still reasonably priced at the moment, what are opinions on the quality of Corgi's Lancasters in general?

Since there will be a new He 111 soon, what do you think of this mold?

The "Ruth-less" B24 also seems pretty good, but due to space/preference, I'd much rather get the B17.

Thanks for your thoughts.
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Indeed the first released B-17 was Memphis Belle, another MB was later released.

The earlier B-17's offered more detailing here & there but the nose gap seam was never fully corrected. The last release which I never bought was indeed the 'Ye Olde Pub' set which is a doozey by all accounts.

As much as I love my Corgi B-17's their Lancaster is my favourite & it's one they have done well. Yes there have been a couple of "reverse camo's" applied and a few other inaccuracies but for the most part its a magnificent mold and a must have for any serious WWII collector IMPO.

The B-24 is a take it or leave it heavy - not the aircraft itself as it was a most important type but again Corgi's rendition has some serious nose seam issues in many cases & I've culled my herd & now only have 4 B-24's with 'Strawberry B!tch' being my fave followed closely by the Coastal Command version.

My Fave B-27 would be a toss up between Bit 'O Lace & Hells Angels

I cannot chose a favourite Lanc, they are all so damn nice. Again I've sold a few on but still have 17 of the brutes





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Indeed the first released B-17 was Memphis Belle, another MB was later released.

The earlier B-17's offered more detailing here & there but the nose gap seam was never fully corrected. The last release which I never bought was indeed the 'Ye Olde Pub' set which is a doozey by all accounts.

As much as I love my Corgi B-17's their Lancaster is my favourite & it's one they have done well. Yes there have been a couple of "reverse camo's" applied and a few other inaccuracies but for the most part its a magnificent mold and a must have for any serious WWII collector IMPO.

The B-24 is a take it or leave it heavy - not the aircraft itself as it was a most important type but again Corgi's rendition has some serious nose seam issues in many cases & I've culled my herd & now only have 4 B-24's with 'Strawberry B!tch' being my fave followed closely by the Coastal Command version.

My Fave B-27 would be a toss up between Bit 'O Lace & Hells Angels

I cannot chose a favourite Lanc, they are all so damn nice. Again I've sold a few on but still have 17 of the brutes





I wish I didn't see all your amazing pictures because now I have a desire to also collect some of them WW 2 bombers!!
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I have B-17s 'Pub, 2nd Patches, 'Lace, and Hell's Angels--to be honest, it's hard to pick a favorite simply because they are all interesting in their own way. I suppose if I had to pick one, 2nd Patches would be my favorite simply because of it's unique scheme (I'm partial to anything with a shark mouth).

I only have one Lancaster (G for George), mainly because they aren't cheap and I primarily wanted a "workhorse" type with a top turret, etc. It's unfortunate that it suffers from the reverse camo issue, but it still looks good. By the way, is the G for George model sought after at all by collectors, or is it mainly ignored because of the reverse camo issue?
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I have the later Memphis Belle and Hell's Angels, and I think both are great. My only B-24 is Strawberry *****, and while I agree the B-24 nose seams are not great, they don't look as bad on this model. I will never get one of the B-24J models.
I have a couple of Lancs, and think the Leonard Cheshire plane , KC-N, and the Dambusters AJ-M were the best.
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I've steered clear of Corgi's B-17's mainly because of the nose section inaccuracies. That's not to say I haven't salivated over a few (Bit o' Lace/Yankee Doodle), but they just aren't close to being right. I've preferred to build a model of what I was looking for instead. (Easier to modify as well)

Corgi's Lancasters are their finest (IMHO). I've had quite a few over the last 10-15 years, including many of the 'important ones', but due to downsizing for space reasons, I've only a small number left with my highly modded SnS Dams Lanc being my pride and joy. (By the way -- I currently have my PO•S 'S-Sugar' one currently in the For Sale section if anyone is interested. Photos galore!).

Corgi also excels with their Halifax. I have the Tirpitz Mk II and if one can get past the 'Brussels sprout' turret and incorrectly supplied landing gear (which I've corrected through Corgi Spares), it is a cracker. Their few Mk III's are classics as well, with 'Friday the 13th' being the tops.

The others I have no first-hand experience with.
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I choose to resurrect this thread about what people think is the best of the Corgi's bombers and personally i would have to say all of the Corgi British heavy bombers of the war are superb; Avro Lancaster, Halifax & Short Sterling.. the ones i have just purchased are the Corgi Lancaster AA32619 'Johnny Walker', Halifax AA37201, Sterling AA39502 and as what a member above mentioned the Corgi Lancaster is a remarkable model IMO.. as far as the American bombers, i'm not very happy with the B-17G mould of Corgi as i already mentioned in another thread but what i have only seen in pictures provided on the internet, the Corgi B-17F model seems quite nice! the one i do own is the the B-24 Liberator AA34010 'Pistol Packin' Mama', i have no complains about this Corgi mould, except that we do have the noticeable seams/ gabs in the nose section of the model but that didn't stop me from acquiring this fine model and at least all four turrets move about!

I do not own any Corgi He-111 German bomber but i have plans to add to my Luftwaffe collection at least two copies of this popular bomber..

Below is the Corgi B-24H Liberator i have purchased on eBay:

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I have no Corgi B-17’s yet but plan on getting Flak Bait when it releases, Flying Mule preorder discount makes it quite a bit less and if the gaps make me crazy I’ll sell it.
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Yes, agreed. I need to add a Mitchell to my collection. Very cool, but tailsitters for display on gear.
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Anyone has purchased this Corgi B-24 AA34018 'Male Call' ?

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Anyone has purchased this Corgi B-24 AA34018 'Male Call' ?

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Think that Corgi did about everything that they can with its "J" model. I did buy one, since I haven't a 1/72 B-24 in my collection. Still can't get past the awful gaps in the front/nose of the model. It's kind of an ugly airplane, anyhow, and the joins make it even less attractive in a model.
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Still can't get past the awful gaps in the front/nose of the model. It's kind of an ugly airplane, anyhow, and the joins make it even less attractive in a model.
To be fair most Corgi military models suffer from fitting problems where two halves meet and than leading to that terrible seam & gaps, which is very visible on most of their models, usually at the nose or at the tail, which is the case with all their propeller fighters & some bombers as well, not just this B-24 bomber.. with this B-24 it's more noticeable but at least all turrets can rotate from left to right & none of the gun barrels point in opposite directions..
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I have a bit of a Lancaster dilemma on my hands at the moment. I have sort of capped myself at four Lancasters, but I just grabbed the daytime U-boat Pens one for a fair price. That means another one from my collection is on the cut list, but I can't decide which one.

Currently, I have S-Sugar, Phantom of the Ruhr, RCAF Rescue, and Cheshire. I like a little bit of variety in types, which is why I grabbed the daytime U-boat pens Lancaster. RCAF doesn't really match my overall WWII collection (but I have a few post-war models) and Cheshire is probably the most "boring" in the visual sense of my Lancaster collection (don't get me wrong, I still think it looks great).

What would you do?
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Currently, I have S-Sugar, Phantom of the Ruhr, RCAF Rescue, and Cheshire. I like a little bit of variety in types, which is why I grabbed the daytime U-boat pens Lancaster. RCAF doesn't really match my overall WWII collection (but I have a few post-war models) and Cheshire is probably the most "boring" in the visual sense of my Lancaster collection (don't get me wrong, I still think it looks great).

What would you do?
We all have our own criteria at how or what we collect, so for me it's two copies of each bomber, for example i want two Corgi Lancaster's or two B-24 Liberator's or two He-111's, etc.. but if i where you i would sell the least desirable or the one which does not fit in your criteria, such as maybe RCAF Rescue version or Cheshire because you mentioned it as being 'boring' right and perhaps you could hunt down & purchase another Lancaster of more interest to your collecting criteria period.
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That's why it's a tough decision, because my "criteria" is kind of fluid. I also factor in availability/rarity.
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IMHO I think the Corgi Lanc is the best of their big bombers, and I have 5 of them (I got a little carried away!). I also have the Cheshire and several Dam Busters along with PO-S and the Grand Slam Lanc. Like them all, but if I Had to let one go, it would probably be one of the Dam Busters or PO-S. Not that I don't like them, but I don't need multiple copies of basically the same plane.
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For me it’s the Short Sterling and the Lancaster.

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I have. Typically gappy for Pooch turreted B24s. But the markings and colours are spot on.

It looks fab indeed.
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I have multiples of all of Corgi's bombers. 11 Lancasters, 2 Stirlings, 7 B17s, 8 B24, 4 x Halifaxs and that's just the 4 engine Heavies.

Gotta remember, other than AF1 no one else have given 1:72 Heavies ago in 1:72 and all the toolings, other than the Stirling and to a lessor extent the Halifax, are a bit long in the tooth.

So expectations need to be reasonable.

They are fab models in my view. But Corgi really have nailed the colours and marking with most recent releases. The only model, that I recall, that has caused some angst in recent times has been the Lancaster "Mike Squared". Some of the older releases have been a bit suspect with colour, but the recent B17s and B24s are friggen spot on.

They are gappy,...particularly the schnozz area. But they still magnificent and most of the recent releases have sold without any discounting.

That pretty much says it all.
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I'd love to put a die-cast Memphis Belle into my collection (any scale) but none that I've seen thus far measure up to my criteria. Until one shows up I have to content myself with this old Aurora (plastic) B-17......
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I only have the AA35313 B-25B “Hari Kari-er,” USS Hornet, Doolittle Raid. I like it a lot except that it’s rear heavy and teeters back on its butt when displayed gear down on the deck.
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Unfortunately many diecast aircraft suffer from that affliction. Not many solutions out there I'm afraid. With a plastic kit I can add ballast forward of the c/g but that's a luxury I don't have with alloy airplanes. Thus, my diecasts are always displayed on their stands. Frankly I enjoy seeing them "in their element" -- in flight and clean, with the gear tucked up.
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Unfortunately many diecast aircraft suffer from that affliction. Not many solutions out there I'm afraid. With a plastic kit I can add ballast forward of the c/g but that's a luxury I don't have with alloy airplanes. Thus, my diecasts are always displayed on their stands. Frankly I enjoy seeing them "in their element" -- in flight and clean, with the gear tucked up.
Yeah, I agree about displaying in flight... but only jets. With prop planes I prefer gear down, as it looks more realistic rather than a flying prop plane with propeller not spinning.
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Yeah, I agree about displaying in flight... but only jets. With prop planes I prefer gear down, as it looks more realistic rather than a flying prop plane with propeller not spinning.

To a degree that's true, as with this Monogram A-26B I built sometime ago......
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To a degree that's true, as with this Monogram A-26B I built sometime ago......
Nice build.

Yeah, unfortunately both the Pooch B24 and B25 have suffered the tail dipping syndrome.

They cleverly made a stand that looked like a ladder going into aft belly hatch for some of the releases. Don't look to bad.
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They cleverly made a stand that looked like a ladder going into aft belly hatch for some of the releases. Don't look to bad.

Those contrivances are often used when there's no better solution but as someone who's worked around military aircraft for many years of his adult life, I know them for the ruse that they are.


And for something like this P-38 there's no legitimate way to camouflage a tail prop. I ended up stuffing the nose and both engine nacelles forward of the c/g with lead wheel weights from a local tire shop......
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Those contrivances are often used when there's no better solution but as someone who's worked around military aircraft for many years of his adult life, I know them for the ruse that they are.


And for something like this P-38 there's no legitimate way to camouflage a tail prop. I ended up stuffing the nose and both engine nacelles forward of the c/g with lead wheel weights from a local tire shop......
Gorgeous! Is this a Monogram, too?
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Indeed it is, AW.


But it's the old (circa 1957) box-scale Invader that was one of Monogram's first all-plastic airplane kits, not the relatively recent 1:48 scale release.
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I only have the AA35313 B-25B “Hari Kari-er,” USS Hornet, Doolittle Raid. I like it a lot except that it’s rear heavy and teeters back on its butt when displayed gear down on the deck.

Does anyone know which Corgi B-25 are tail-sitters, and which aren't? Heavenly Body sits square on deck with no support but the landing gear. On the other hand, Hari-Kari-er isn't even close. Could the issue be related to the model, B-25C vs B-25J, for instance?
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Could the issue be related to the model, B-25C vs B-25J, for instance?
Possibly.


The H and subsequent Mitchell variants had the dorsal turret relocated forward, deleted the Bendix belly turret, added the four package guns which flanked the cockpit, plus an additional fixed Browning in the nose. If Corgi chose to render those added features as alloy castings it may have provided sufficient additional ballast to keep the model correctly perched on its undercarriage. A fortunate turn of events IMO.
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Re; CORGI BOMBERS - Thanks for your thoughts.

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Am rather amazed that there's barely a mention for the Stirling - (or as one poor lad calls it, 'Sterling' £)



In my humble opinion the Corgi Stirling is by far & away THE best 'Heavy Bomber' they make.



I've got 12 x Lancasters, 6 x Stirlings (but yet more 'Sterling' in the bank ), = 3 x B.17's & just one B.24


I'm NOT counting the (fabulous) Catalinas & Ju.52 because they don't count, as "Bombers"


(although I do possess a photo' of a French Ju.52 "Bombing" in French-Indo-China, circa 1952)




Yes, yes, yes, I "like" the Lancaster (hence 12), BUT, it doesn't "move me" like the Stirling.


Only downer on the multiples of the XV.Sqdn "McRoberts", is the short undercarriage (pun intended)


I also bought the Aaron version, as 218's base (he flew from), is down the road...

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Oh yeah, I forgot the Handley Page Halifax (another unmentioned, or thereabouts)


I've got x 10 Corgi Handley-Page-Halifaxes, no Merlin variants, they're ALL Bristol Herc' versions.**


** Except just one of the rather tasty Coastal Command Merlin-GR.variant



(yes, yes, yes = Some ARE duplicates, The Bombers)


I came home from the Pub one night (too many Beers) & was seeing in triplicate




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Old 06-14-2019, 09:49 PM   #34
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Am rather amazed that there's barely a mention for the Stirling - (or as one poor lad calls it, 'Sterling' £)

In my humble opinion the Corgi Stirling is by far & away THE best 'Heavy Bomber' they make.
Certainly once they replaced the landing gear for "McRoberts Reply" it turned out to be a cracking tooling.

Unfortunately, its one of those types that lads seemingly were happy with the one in their collection. Unlike the magnificent, but older tooling the Lancaster.

"McRoberts Reply" sold out quicker than a heavy in a month of Mondays but the Aaron's and the Middleton release seemed to hang around for an age.

And none have been to had since. Great tooling,.,..wonderful to have in the Bomber Command theme (I have "McRoberts Reply" and obviously Middleton's VC Stirling). Not sure it was the best choice for Corgi to render it to Diecast though??

I see you mentioned the Cat and Tante,...but no mention of the incredible Sunderland??

I hope one day Corgi release a RAF Sunderland,....and not another of them Colonials again.
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I've got x 10 Corgi Handley-Page-Halifaxes, no Merlin variants, they're ALL Bristol Herc' versions.**


** Except just one of the rather tasty Coastal Command Merlin-GR.variant



(yes, yes, yes = Some ARE duplicates, The Bombers)


I came home from the Pub one night (too many Beers) & was seeing in triplicate




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So how's the 'triple investment' doing for you? I remember that from a few years back.
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So how's the 'triple investment' doing for you?


I remember that from a few years back.

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Hi Chris, Long time no-see mate, long time


Triplicate investment proved to be a wise one in this case, wise indeed.


Given the kind of wonga they fetch these days, I coulda done FAR worse (laughs)


Obv's as you know, a lifelong Halifax-fan-man, it meant I didn't have to make the elderly AIRFIX one


Also, keen to state to those passing-thru - No, nor did I buy them as 'investments' (not my style).


I just kinda buy multiples that I like & this one showed-up when I wuz flushed.




Getting onto you Chris, I take it you still possess that W.1048 'Sprout' ya bought, years ago ?


Seems to me like around the time-period I sent you those FROG Mk.1 Blenheim decals ?


Seems like 10-years ago, but knowing MY time-keeping, it could be 15 (laughs !)


Tell me, did you buy the AIRFIX Blenhiem Mk.1 when it got released ?


P.S, I caught your jist on the Halibag (laughs even harder !)


P.P.S, Good to hear from ya man.....


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Hi Kevin,
It's been a moment or two.

Certainly a fine one for multiples, that's for sure. I haven't seen one of those for years. I wonder how many are expensive loft-filler these days!

I still have the 'sprout' in absolutely 'corrected u/c' condition. Still looks superb!

YES! I did snag the first Blenheim Mk I, and was going after the all black one, and considering the cammo upper/black lower one (I forget the details and no Tricatus to reference ) but ran into financial blackness. When I came out on the other side, they had disappeared. Maybe for the better as I'm jammed for space.

Yes, good to hear you're alive and well too, old boy. Look forward to running into you here, going forward.

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Chris and Geezer on the forums together.

Its a good thing.

Chris,...your more into civvies these days??
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Its a good thing.

Chris,...your more into civvies these days??
A little from column A, and a little from column B.

Picked up the recent Parry mossie GB-G to finish part of my RAF WWII 'Daring Deeds' collection (I've been banging on about that one to Corgi for eons), and then the recent AeroClassics 200 1:200 CPA DC-8-43 to swell that bit of my collection.

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