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Old 02-21-2015, 06:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here are some of my choices for "best value" diecast - by which I mean models that can be bought *relatively* cheaply despite being quite good. Often, this is because the underlying country or subject isn't that popular, even though the model and its finish are quite excellent.

I am *excluding* from this list "good deal" diecast that everybody knows about, such as the Arado 196. No, this list is for things that seem to be available forever while far inferior models sell out..


#1 - Skymax Saudi Strikemaster

Superb mould, nicely detailed, no QA issues. Just perfect, and unavailable for under GBP 20 in a few places.

2. Corgi Lufthansa Ju52

again, a very nicely finished example of a popular airshow bird. Sells for around GBP 30-40 in places still. Shockingly good for that price.

3. Corgimaster F6Fs.
The hobbymaster produced corgi branded predators F6Fs are pretty darn good (despite the too sharp color join line between the blue shades). Especially if you can pick one up for under GBP 10.



4. Certain Corgi B-24s.

The Corgi B-24s are not perfect. All have a closed bomb-bay and the nose join on the turreted models is horrendous. But the regular-nosed ones are pretty good. Ignore the guys asking crazy money for the following on ebay - you can often find it for as little as GBP 40-50:



this is a much better model than it looks in the photos - the green is convincing and it looks quite decent. Or, if that doesn't float your boat, "Strawberry *****" inexplicably comes up at very reasonable prices relatively often and is a superb model for the price. And of course "Dragon and His tail" is superb except for the nose join problem.


5. FoV F-14 "Swordsmen"



Ok - the colors are not exactly correct. But for 1/3 or less of actual CW aprices, you get what is for all practical purposes a CW model at 98% of the quality of CW (quality wise, there is very very little difference between them). As a bonus, even though the colors arent correct, the FoV model is surprisingly attractive.

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That's some of the best advice I've read in a long time on DAC and it would be interesting to see what other members have to offer in this vein. With new (and even quite small) models running from $90 on up here in Canada, the more bargains one can find the better! Thanks for that. Cheers...Tony
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I like the B-24 a lot.
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The FOV F-14's are nice for the money. The paint job though.... There are a few model companies that make good die cast and then muck up the paint jobs.

That is one of the major problems with FOV. The person who made the CW F-14 mold originally had done the same first model F-14 for FOV. FOV did not want to increase the details or attention to the paint job which is why CW was started.
FOV's F-22 model is almost as good as HM's but they paint jobs look terrible. Sadly, the last few HM F-22 models have degraded the paint in the direction of FOV, making them look almost as bad. If HM continues to slide and FOV gets their act together, they could compete with HM well.
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Just about all Skymax models seem "underappreciated"--from the La-5s to the Vals.

I also think many IXO models don't get enough attention. There are several Soviet and Japanese examples that are very likable and interesting models.
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I think that FOV's B-25s and B-26s qualify to be mentioned in this thread. Even though some have QC issues and their "machine guns" and "pitot heads" are rubber, except for the first B-26, which had its fuselage side markings misplaced and in the wrong color, these models, which are priced about 60% of a Corgi medium, are quite good. Here's a picture of two FOV B-26s:

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And another FOV B-26 plus a B-25---as can be seen, in both pics I've added stains and chipping as well as the navigator's side windows:
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I just got that B-24 for $90 USD shipped. It's livery and weight are incredibly impressive
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Some Corgi Blenheim's have in the past dumped. Particularly the Greek Campaign Blenheim. Oddly for Corgi its a tight little tooling and the MTO/Desert scheme is lovely and well done.

I think its still available........

I am quite the fan of the tooling with three in my Hanger with the Edwards VC release another for the future.

Some Corgi's 1:144 toolings are little stars as well. Particularly the KC97/C97 tooling. Ya gotta have one for your B52s.
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I should point out the Oxford, Blue Box, series of models.

Brand new, quality Diecast (as good or better than Corgi) at $65 AU (around 33 pounds) delivered.

Find another model of the quality and size of the Anson, Hornet and Rapide for that (RRP)!!??

Luv em...have 5 (2 x Rapides, 2 x Hornets and an Anson) of them so far and I am really looking forward to their next announcements.

Brilliant.

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The FOV F-14's are nice for the money. The paint job though.... There are a few model companies that make good die cast and then muck up the paint jobs.

That is one of the major problems with FOV. The person who made the CW F-14 mold originally had done the same first model F-14 for FOV. FOV did not want to increase the details or attention to the paint job which is why CW was started.
FOV's F-22 model is almost as good as HM's but they paint jobs look terrible. Sadly, the last few HM F-22 models have degraded the paint in the direction of FOV, making them look almost as bad. If HM continues to slide and FOV gets their act together, they could compete with HM well.
i'm with tripoli here. i've got the fov swordsmen and yes, the paintjob sucks. just look aft of the canopy and you'll know what i mean. it's pretty slipshod, to say the least. and while they may be the same mould, fov doesn't bother to smoothen the rough edges. take a look at the port side of the nose cone...
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i'm with tripoli here. i've got the fov swordsmen and yes, the paintjob sucks. just look aft of the canopy and you'll know what i mean. it's pretty slipshod, to say the least. and while they may be the same mould, fov doesn't bother to smoothen the rough edges. take a look at the port side of the nose cone...
mine is just fine in both places. maybe my "98%" comment was a bit much, but "95%" is more than fair. My Swordsmen tomcat is actually more or less QA perfect, and, as I said, I got it for a song. This is night and day compared to earlier FOV tomcats, including, famously, their very poor ****e-covered JR one.

B-26: I thought about adding this to the list, but the reality is that the B-26 sells for about what the HM A-26 sells for. This makes it a good fair price, but not an underappreciated gem. I have 'shootin-in' and I think it's great and then broke down and got 'Flak Bait' which is just ok. Yes, I highly recommend everybody get one of these B-26s (I suggest shootin in even though it's a little 'rougher' from a fnish standpoint)--i just don't particularly put it on this list.

Here are a couple more for the list:


6. This corgi skyhawk



If you look at photos such as the above, you'll be convinced that this skyhawk is irredeeemable crap, especially compared to the HM version. And yet, when you see it in person, it holds its own quite well, as do, surprisingly, all of the corgi skyhawks, especially considering you can find them for under $20, something you can't really do with HM versions.

7. Corgi No1 Squadron Set


Four perfectly decent corgi models bundled together for under GBP 20 each and sometimes even less than GBP 15.
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guess i ended up with a dud (and here's why):







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6. This corgi skyhawk



If you look at photos such as the above, you'll be convinced that this skyhawk is irredeeemable crap, especially compared to the HM version. And yet, when you see it in person, it holds its own quite well, as do, surprisingly, all of the corgi skyhawks, especially considering you can find them for under $20, something you can't really do with HM versions.
Been saying for an age the biggest vulnerability of the Pooch Skyhawk was the Hound itself. Its inability to be a tad more imaginative with its scheme selection doomed the tooling to a more global vision that is HM's trademark.

The Sabre is the same...although the Pooch did not need any imagination to pick the top three USAF ACES of the Korean War.....they just chose not to release them.

The Sabre is not a bad tooling and from 3 feet away, like the A4, they don't look out of place with HM's Sabre.
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I think that FOV's B-25s and B-26s qualify to be mentioned in this thread. Even though some has QC issues and their "machine guns" and pitot heads" are rubber, except for the first B-26, which had its fuselage side markings misplaced and in the wrong color, these models, which are priced about 60% of a Corgi medium, are quite good. Here's a picture of two FOV B-26s:
Had a chance to score "Shoot-In" only a week or two ago.

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OMG!!!! Someone at the factory dropped the ball big time
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6. This corgi skyhawk



If you look at photos such as the above, you'll be convinced that this skyhawk is irredeeemable crap, especially compared to the HM version. And yet, when you see it in person, it holds its own quite well, as do, surprisingly, all of the corgi skyhawks, especially considering you can find them for under $20, something you can't really do with HM versions.
Most retailers have them priced around $50 or so. Still, that's not too bad considering that HM Skyhawks are now reaching the $70 mark.

And, I do agree that Corgi Skyhawks are quite decent.

If you can find the Corgi Blue Angels A-4, buy it. It is far better than the HM version. The Corgi version has better paint color (though still not quite correct), a better landing gear stance, and a more accurate canopy shape.

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Cool, I was thinking about getting the Republic of Singapore air force's Skymax strikemaster. Seems like i should start looking for it
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Cool, I was thinking about getting the Republic of Singapore air force's Skymax strikemaster. Seems like i should start looking for it
not only should you start looking for it, you should start looking for it in earnest seeing how you're from sg. it's becoming a rare breed, the rsaf strikemaster.
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Cool, I was thinking about getting the Republic of Singapore air force's Skymax strikemaster. Seems like i should start looking for it
I highly recommend it, got mine about 2 months ago from this place still stocking it and dirt cheap as well

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God those code 3 A/B-26's look awesome, can anyone say anything for the various different A-20's
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God those code 3 A/B-26's look awesome, can anyone say anything for the various different A-20's

What code 3s mate?? I had a look but I could not find them. They do sell Eagles International Code3s but I did not see any bombers??
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I highly recommend it, got mine about 2 months ago from this place still stocking it and dirt cheap as well
I have the little Kiwi Srikemaster. It's a beaut little model. I highly recommend that one too.
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I highly recommend it, got mine about 2 months ago from this place still stocking it and dirt cheap as well

www.onmarkint.com.diecast,die-cast.diecast.aircraft.diecast.vehicles
Thanks for the link, thats a really good price. Although i think i would need to find one nearer to me to save on shipping
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Isn't a code 3 a repaint of an existing diecast? I'm certain epap does them all the time. In fact he is quite good at them, i envy the work he does.
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I should point out the Oxford, Blue Box, series of models.

Brand new, quality Diecast (as good or better than Corgi) at $65 AU (around 33 pounds) delivered.

Find another model of the quality and size of the Anson, Hornet and Rapide for that (RRP)!!??

Luv em...have 5 (2 x Rapides, 2 x Hornets and an Anson) of them so far and I am really looking forward to their next announcements.

Brilliant.
they aren't underappreciated though- everyone accepts they're good.
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they aren't underappreciated though- everyone accepts they're good.
Yes well, in Britain certainly, but I don't think they have quite the name outside of Blighty that other manufacturers have. Do you really think that most collectors in the US that barely frequent the forums (or not) know what a Rapide and Hornet (not the F18) is??

The idea that what happens in Blighty regarding the Hobby, is the Hobby, is long past its used by date.

Also, there is some confusion between Blue Box and the rest of Oxford's aviation line, with the question/comment regarding fixed landing gears and quality. Hence my specific reference to Blue Box, particularly as they are announced together, at the same time on DHP.

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Isn't a code 3 a repaint of an existing diecast? I'm certain epap does them all the time. In fact he is quite good at them, i envy the work he does.
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Isn't a code 3 a repaint of an existing diecast? I'm certain epap does them all the time. In fact he is quite good at them, i envy the work he does.
Thats right mate...I just cant find them from the retailer onmarket...I thought that was the site you were referring too mate?
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And another FOV B-26 plus a B-25---as can be seen, in both pics I've added stains and chipping as well as the navigator's side windows:
it is really a nice experience to code3 an FOV B-25, images show that i've reconstructed an FOV B-25 by attach a set of RoCAF(Taiwan) decal. Top turrent had been removed by violence.





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Wow nice ROCAF B-25, guess that's one use for a FoV model hahaha
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Agree, that is one very very smart looking RoCAF B25. Very very nice indeed.
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Nice job, Tigermeet.
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What type of paint did you use on the Code 3 B-25? Alclad?
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