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Old 02-17-2015, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I recently discovered the existence of diecast airplane models and I haven't stopt thinking about buying one or not ever since. So let's say I'm buying one, which one do you guys think is the best one? The nicest looking one? with the least amount of flaws?

I'm thinking of buying one of the following Hobby Master models:
- 31 OG "Triple Jastreb-Killer"
- 185th FG/174 FS, Iowa Air National Guard "The Bats"
- 421st FS "Black Widows" Balad Air Base, Iraq (this one might be hard to find, since the local store doesn't sell it)
- FA-117, Belgian Air Force

I'm from Belgium myself so the Belgian airforce version has some more 'emotional/patriotic' meaning to it. However, I really like the colors of the USAF versions a lot. Always have, even the real life ones. When I was just a kid, at airshows, the USAF planes always looked much better than the Belgian ones.
So what do you guys think? One of those four? Or are there other/nicer ones?
I look forward to your opinions.

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Old 02-17-2015, 09:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Can't go wrong on hobby master
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was in the same position about a year ago...I just needed to add an F-16 to my collection.
I wanted to get the Black Widows...but the price on those has gone through the roof.
Finally settled on the “Triple Jastreb” and very glad I did.
Now I’ll probably be jumping on the Wild Weasel when it comes out.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you like bold markings, go for the Bats. For rarity pick the Belgian I'd say. Apart from possible future special paints (with colorful tails) you won't get many more Belgian fighters in the future.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've got both the "Triple Jastreb-Killer" and "The Bats" Falcons. They are great little models.
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If you like bold markings, go for the Bats. For rarity pick the Belgian I'd say. Apart from possible future special paints (with colorful tails) you won't get many more Belgian fighters in the future.
Another cool thing about the Belgian version is that it has some orange markings like the ejection seat label which adds a nice touch over the grey scheme (much like the F-16As had originally). Plus, it has the trio grey scheme —*you can see the colour split where the underside grey meets the upper surface grey on the front part of the fuselage.
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum AB705.

They're all great. I'd go with the Belgian one now, and pre-order one of the upcoming U.S. wild weasels.

I have the Triple Jastreb Killer and love it. It's great quality and has a unique history.
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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All the HM F-16 are very nicely made, you won't go wrong except with the dual cockpits. The canopy on those has a defect which makes it look rough in the sunlight.

The HM F-117 is really an incredible model for the money and hard to beat. You get quite the bang for the buck with it. I would highly recommend that as the first purchase.
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The HM F-117 is really an incredible model for the money and hard to beat. You get quite the bang for the buck with it. I would highly recommend that as the first purchase.
Since when did HM make a Nighthawk?
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Belgian F-16?
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I would look at finding an Isreali one.
No logical reason; I just like colorful liveries.

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...nues-grow.html
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All the HM F-16 are very nicely made, you won't go wrong except with the dual cockpits. The canopy on those has a defect which makes it look rough in the sunlight.

The HM F-117 is really an incredible model for the money and hard to beat. You get quite the bang for the buck with it. I would highly recommend that as the first purchase.
err... wasn't there a discussion about the unsightly seams of hm's f16s somewhere?

did hm ever release an f117?
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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...did hm ever release an f117?
Jeff's talking about the HA3853 FA-117, Belgian Air Force F-16AM

Hobby Master 1/72 Air Power Series HA3853 Lockheed F-16AM Block 15 FA-117, Belgian Air Force


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Old 02-18-2015, 01:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Sorry, Yes, the F-16 117 Belgian. I think HM has just done an incredible job with all their F-16's.
I would say, collect what you like because you like it. Being here in the US, I have a large collection of US aircraft mainly. Branched out to the Israel birds and now with the AETE F-18 coming out, will probably start collecting the Canada birds as well myself.
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Jeff's talking about the HA3853 FA-117, Belgian Air Force F-16AM
Yeah, we knew this but were just playing around.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Okay thanks for the replies, people!
So basically it doesn't really matter that much, with a slight preference to the Belgian model.

How about the armament? How does that work? Do all models have the same armaments? Or do they only have the weapons shown in the preview pics?
Because the Belgian/Triple Jastreb-Killer models have cooler weaponry than the 'The Bats' version, for example. And other models have even more different bombs attached.
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Weapon loads will vary from model to model. I generally go check out the pics at links to 1/72 Hobby Master Jet Air Power Series first, then check out eBay or The Flying Mule for more pics. Googling/Binging Images of the model also helps.
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The flying mule is great for checking out the product before you buy just do quick google search for it and it should be within the top three suggestions.
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Currently I'm thinking of getting the Triple Jastreb-Killer.
The Belgian model is 10€ more and I can't seem to find pics of different weaponry than shown on the preview pics.
Also, the weaponry on the triple Jastreb-killer looks cooler than on the Bats version.

Anyway, thanks for the advice guys!

Ps: all of this talk about HM models.. are there other brands with f16 models of the same quality or better?
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
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why look for other brand? Is HM not good in some way
you can try AF1
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"why look for other brand? Is HM not good in some way you can try AF1 "

How cruel of a snipe hunt that is.

HM has a great F-16 model, Dragon does almost as nice of a model but not too many other come to the detailing, accuracy and quality of HM. HM is the best way to go. Their F-15 is another nice model but they have had a few bad paint jobs. I have a feeling this year, it will be another great model for livery schemes.
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I've always thought highly of Dragons one piece fuselage, their weapon load outs were disappointing though.

Witty's are a good solid model but prone to QC issues
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Old 02-21-2015, 07:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with HM, I was just wondering if there were more brands I should look into before buying.
But I'm going with HM after all, they really do look the best in my opinion and are easily available.
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Old 02-21-2015, 08:55 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Like I am the ACE said, the Flying Mule is a great place to see photos of the models.

Other websites which have great photos are Hobby Master Collector (hobbymastercollector.com) and Ed Kao's vimeo page where he does rotating recordings of the models (https://vimeo.com/user12967700/videos).

The Hobby Master Collector is where you can see the pre-production photos, as well.
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