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Old 02-13-2015, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Wonder if they use their own mould or something from WW, but I guess the chance so see a HM Flanker is now more unlikely.
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Old 02-13-2015, 11:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It is their own mould. I have two of WW Flankers, and the screw holes are not visible on them, neither are they just plugged with a piece of plastic. Plus, the panel lines AND rivets are way more pronounced than on WW, and the bottom part of fuselage has different size and shape than on WW. As to seeing HM Flanker, I wrote to William like two days ago, and they are considering it, but it needs more thought because of, as William puts it "rather limited market".

I still believe that we might see HM Flanker, because, lets be honest, while I appreciate AF1 for trying, their models arent that great. Screwholes, ridiculous riveting that looks like a WW2 battleship, only wheels down, and more than often colors that are way off compared to the real thing arent that much of a threat.
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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OMG AF1 just give up for crying out loud.....

Screw holes, engine covers not positioned straight, wing tip rails not poisitioned well, more rivets then a battleship, why does this Chinese manufacturer think to make a realise model, you add rivets to everything They should me making model battleships or stream engines rather then aircraft

As for these type of models being limited.... Bull*****
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo. Done
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo. Done
Heres hoping this was their own mould and not Witty's.....

Seriously, is it going to kill them to put a 1 cent RMB plastic cover over those gawd darn screw holes

Good to see the R&D department did their homework, no Su-35 stabiliser is complete without turn of the 20th century rivets and bolts

I feel for AF1
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The poor guy who puts the rivet marks in the models needs work too...
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Personally I think making a diecast model in Braille is very forward thinking in an age of diversity ��
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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lol @ above comments. Maybe AF1 is a equal opportunity employer and the guy that crafts the moulds is vision impaired....

Oh one other thing about that model, why have a varied loud out when you can have the same thing x7

God I hope HM had enough common sense to buy the Witty moulds.... Heck maybe even the Terebo mob would be better, anyone but AF1....
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lol @ above comments. Maybe AF1 is a equal opportunity employer and the guy that crafts the moulds is vision impaired....

Oh one other thing about that model, why have a varied loud out when you can have the same thing x7

God I hope HM had enough common sense to buy the Witty moulds.... Heck maybe even the Terebo mob would be better, anyone but AF1....
have you ever come close or worked with any aircraft to compare a real aircraft to any diecast model ? .....lol....just wondering...
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have you ever come close or worked with any aircraft to compare a real aircraft to any diecast model ? .....lol....just wondering...
No...........



I know enough to know their panels are not held together with nuts and bolts

Will HM just hurry up and come out with a Super Hornet and modern MiG or Su series aircraft this year !!!
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thats what i mean....if youve ever seen or worked with any aircraft in real....youll never buy any single diecast model..... .....keep cool......lol

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thats what i mean....if youve ever seen or worked with any aircraft in real....youll never buy any single diecast model..... .....keep cool......lol
Is that because they DO have that many rivets or current diecast models have too many ?
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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haha. You'll find that the panel lines you don't seem to have a problem with are virtually smooth on the real thing - among many other things. Seriously, if you measure the width of the panel lines on, say HM's Viper model and then scale that up from 1:72 to 1:1, you'd end up with a panel gap the size of your hand. I hear you on the rivets, and I agree, they look wrong, but it IS a very subjective thing and they're no more 'wrong' than your panel lines.

Good moulding in diecast appears to be about knowing where to be dead-on accurate (eg - silhouette, wing shape, proportions etc) and where to approximate due to physical inability to completely replicate the real thing. This is the part where it gets completely stylistic and subjective - eg. "how many of those landing gear assembly struts do I really need and at what point does making them accurate virtually guarantee they'll snap off within three minutes of installing them? When have we got 'enough' detail in there to satisfy the majority of collectors and look generally 'right'"?
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