Air Force 1 1:72, Doolittle's B25B
Just saw this on Aitkens Website.
B-25B Mitchell Signature Edition "40-2344," Lt. Col. J.H. Doolittle, Co-Pilot Lt. R.E. Cole, 34th Squadron, April 18, 1942 1:72 Air Force 1 AF1-0111S - Aiken's Airplanes Store B-25B Mitchell "40-2344," Lt. Col. J.H. Doolittle, Co-Pilot Lt. R.E. Cole, 34th Squadron, April 18, 1942 1:72 Air Force 1 AF1-0111 - Aiken's Airplanes Store It appears that Air Force One have a B25 tooling in 1:72. The first release will be Doolittles B25B. There will also be a signature edition. :envy: I have been hanging for another manufacturer to pick up the B25 tooling for an age. I was hoping HM would do it. Have to say I am so pleased. Not just the tooling, but I don't have the Pooch's Doolittle B25, so this one will be a certainty. If its as good as the P61 and they do a better job with the scheme selection than the Hound, then I am gonna all over this tooling. Should be out in May. :cool: Clearly WW2 is not dead. And it appears if Corgi are not willing to engage with the US market properly and substantially on its WW2 subjects..........then clearly Air Force 1 are prepared to give it a go. :cool: |
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The big question is what will be the level of quality though? Although the P-61 and V-22 have been relatively good - everything else has been pretty sub-standard. Dan ;) |
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ii believe that AF 1 will be impoving ....realizing how much attentiom they get from diecast collectors not only locally but from abroad....
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I have the Corgi Doolittle Mitchell, but will be very interested to see the pre-pros for this one. I got the AF1 P-61 and was happy with it, so I'm hoping this will turn out as good or better.
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Assuming AF1 is acting rationally (which is an open question, especially given nonsensical releases like their F-16), they must be counting on the demise of Corgi over the short to medium term. Corgi's B-25 is excellent and I suspect most collectors who might be interested in one already have one, especially given the recent re-release of 'ruptured duck' by Corgi.
I really like my AF1 black widow, but let's not delude ourselves - given the price they are asking it's just an ok model whose overall black color hides a lot of flaws and lack of detail. Their osprey likewise simply, by a narrow margin, "fails to be terrible." I'll wait for a HM V-22 or be happy with the excellent kit built one I have, thank you very much. I suspect the AF1 B-25 is either a) FOV/Unimax rehash b) a trial run towards a larger/more demanding model - the obvious choice here is B-17 which corgi chronically under-produced. |
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The last Corgi release was a bit of a dud. Which was predictable considering its very similar to a previous RAF release (just with a more accurate colour). Whilst Corgi has had some good releases, some were pretty average and many had the rather unfortunate largish runs. More likely AF1 has the old FM tooling (which we have known about for months...along with the PBY and B17 toolings) and utilising the CAD method tooled a 1:72 version. It also means, other nations such as Australia, Canada (mainly post war)....maybe even a Korean War B25 (apparently a few were utilised as hacks), in addition to the plethora of USAAF schemes, could be in the offing. In other words there is enough diversity that Corgi did not exploit with their tooling that AF1 could make a go of it (as opposed to a trial for a 1:72 B17 :confused:). Actually the B25 tooling's biggest vulnerability is that none served with the 8th Air Force and ETO models have always been more popular than the other theatres of WW2 in Diecast. |
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I'd love it if AF1 released some solid-nosed B-25s like Red Wrath or Hell's Belles.
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After seeing AF1's B-25 on display at my local retailer's last weekend, I'll definitely be sticking with Corgi's B-25s and I don't expect AF1's pending B-17 "Bit O' Lace" will become part of my B-17 collection either.
This photo compares Corgi's Doolittle Raider AA35312 on the left with AF1's AF10111 While I was impressed with AF1's initial Osprey and Black Widow -- though being the only 1:72 offerings added to their appeal, my issues with their B-25 include:
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Cheers for showing the comparison. I expect the AF1 version will find its niche somewhere with collectors who might not be able to get their hands on the corgi version, though wonder what the RRP for the AF1 is. It was always a baffling choice on AF1 to produce as the corgi version is so good, it was always going to be a tough job to compete.
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I expect the AF1 version to have a niche following by people that collect toys that sucked LOL
I think WWI battleships were constructed with less rivets :eek: You sunk my battleship :rolleyes: |
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Anyone know if their actually gonna end up producing a 1/72 B-29?
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Would you really want a AF1 B-29 ? Guess you haven't seen their 1:144 versions yet...
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I think it would be down to price for the AF1 B-25 to sell. Overall it looks "ok". Corgi has the detailing I prefer.
As for the B-29, could be a bit of a long shot for Corgi. The Vulcan was different as it's a British aircraft with British schemes and Corgi's market is usually cited as primarily the UK. I know the RAF operated the B-29 for a short time and perhaps a question of is this enough to convince the pooch. |
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... and hopefully they'll tone down on the rivets as well... ;)
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Since when was the B-25 a sleek aircraft? Had the sleekness of a junkyard build.
https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/Mf...600.jpg.cf.jpg https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/TV...son.jpg.cf.jpg https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/ZY...072.jpg.cf.jpg To me a model should look as it does irl standing in front of it....not how it looks flying around or in a picture taken from 50 feet away. Some like it some dont, but saying AF1 is wrong in riveting this craft is laughable |
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Victoria Tsang Jan 6https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif to me https://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif Dear Bill, Thank you for your enquiry. No, the B29 in the scale of 1/72 is simply too big. With very best regards, Victoria Tsang Sales & Marketing Director Air Force 1 Co., Limited Suite 2301, Mega Trade Center 1 Mei Wan Street Tsuen Wan, N.T. Quote:
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If a B-29 would ever be made in 1/72 then my guess is they will need a lot of plastic in the wings for that enormous wing span. Otherwise it will probably not be able to carry its own weight.
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My Franklin mint B-17, far larger than a 1/72 B-29 would be, does not sag. The B-29 continues to be far and away the most important aircraft not represented in 1/72 or larger diecast and honestly I don't buy many of the explanations we get as to why it's not been done. The fuselage is a basic cylinder that can be joined in many ways. The wings can be made in reasonably sided sections and if done in the way that i suggest, the model can be shipped with user-attachable wings to keep the size of the box small. There are an absolute TON of liveries that can be done AND if a company was particularly ambitious they could even sell packs of noses and tails (with different nose art and unit numbers) for example to cover a large number ofotherwise basically identical WW2-pacific theater birds. I think one of the 'traps' of B-29s is the focus on the Atom bomb aircraft. I think doing those is unnecessary (it requires changes to the bomb bays). By skipping those in 1/72, you avoid the bomb bay issue and any political controversy, and leave yourself with plenty of good liveries to do. I'd buy at least three B-29s/B-50s in 1/72 and maybe more. |
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Well, if the empennage was plastic and the fuselage and engines were metal, that might do it.
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I have a 1/72 plastic B-58. The shape is infinitely more complicated than the "soda can cylindrical" b-29. To be any good and not suffer from CW SR-71 "broken neck" issues, the B58 upper fuse would have to be one very intricate piece. Because it's a cylinder, the b-29 need not be. Plus, while the B-29 is large, it's not that large - if today's corgi B17s are $150, then $200, not $300 is plenty. And that's again, in my view giving too much credit to the B-29's size and not enough to it's relative simplicity compared to even the B-17. Even the turrets on the B-29 are much simpler in that they are all identical and non-glazed (other than the tail).
B-29 and variants were flown in significant numbers by three major air forces (four if you count PLAAF TU-4s) and had a very significant role in two major conflicts. I don't understand the hesitation to get this ridiculously important aircraft done in diecast. |
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