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I’ve been reading up on the Burma Banshees lately —*those P-40s that were adorned with an impressive skull painted over the engine cowlings.
IMO it would make an interesting subject for HM to explore as they expand their WW2 1:48 catalog. As far as I know, I don’t think it’s been covered by any other diecast manufacturer —*except for maybe Franklin quite a few years back...
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Hands down, the P-40 needs to be HM's next 1:48 tooling

Is there a Canadian connection with the BB's ?

Put me down for Flying Tigers, USAAF and maybe RAF as well
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I’ve been reading up on the Burma Banshees lately —*those P-40s that were adorned with an impressive skull painted over the engine cowlings.
IMO it would make an interesting subject for HM to explore as they expand their WW2 1:48 catalog. As far as I know, I don’t think it’s been covered by any other diecast manufacturer —*except for maybe Franklin quite a few years back...
Yes mate, Franklin Mint did release a 80th FG P40N.

Franklin Mint B11E184 - P-40 Warhawk Diecast Model, USAAF 80th FG, 89th FS, "Joanne", India, 1943: The Flying Mule
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Hands down, the P-40 needs to be HM's next 1:48 tooling

Is there a Canadian connection with the BB's ?
No, but there is definitely a RCAF connection with the P-40 and the USAAF's 343rd FG known as the "Aleutian Tigers". RCAF and USAAF P-40s operated together to repel the Japanese occupation of the North American Continent during the Aleutian campaign of 1942.

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The Japanese, by invading Pearl Harbour, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941, shocked the Canadian and American governments into rethinking their defensive strategies. Suddenly, they understood that they would have to protect their west coasts. A U.S./ Canadian alliance was formed. Major projects were funded and started, A highway was built connecting Alaska to continental USA. Airforce bases were constructed along the coast of British Columbia and the RCAF was mobilized to supply men and planes to patrol the Canadian coast.

By the following June, Japanese activity had increased in the Aleutians. The United States wanted to shift its aerial resources to protect their bases there and to support their attacks on Japanese ships, aircraft and Aleutian installations. They requested that Canadian squadrons take over the job of protecting the security of the Alaskan coast. Canada responded by supplying two bomber squadrons and two fighter squadrons. 111 (f) Squadron was one of the fighter squadrons. It was redirected from its original assignment on the Canadian East Coast and sent west.

111 Squadron hurriedly trained at Patricia Bay (near the present site of the Victoria International Airport on Vancouver Island, British Columbia). They were soon operational and, for a significant period, they had primary responsibility for air defence of the Vancouver/ Victoria area. The major worry was not that the Japanese would invade but that they would mount surprise raids, shelling harbours and interdicting shipping. Constant patrols were required and 111 was very busy running down "sightings" of suspicious maritime and aerial activity. They flew Curtiss P-40 Kittyhawks which were the fastest, best-armed aircraft available to them in the region.

111 Squadron RCAF P-40 Kittyhawks at Pat Bay.



This Fighter Unit made its way northward, operating initially out of Elmendorf Air Force Base, Anchorage, Alaska. Later, as the fighting became more intense and the initiative was shifting from defence to attack, 111 Squadron was moved forward. Its task was to protect American installations in thge closer Aleutian Islands and to join raids against Japanese-held Aleutian Islands. The squadron's headquarters moved to Kodiak Island with temporary detachments located at Umnak, Adak and Amchitka Islands in the Aleutian chain. They served as reinforcement to the USAAF and completed two tours of offensive operations against Japanese forces on Kiska Island.



Squadron Leader Ken Boomer was a Battle of Britain Veteran who led 111 Squadron RCAF during the Aleutian Campaign. He was credited with shooting down a Japanese A6M2-N Rufe (float equipped Zero) over Kiska in 1942. Thus becoming the sole enemy aircraft destroyed by a Canadian Home Defence Unit during the War.

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Dan, something tells me that you've been researching this already for a possible release

And it would be a welcome release I might add with that scheme
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There are also some pretty nice RAAF schemes, and i wouldn't mind seeing some in 1:72
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Just found this on the web...some illustrations from a French graphic novel artist named Romain Hugault. Very nicely done. He has certainly captured the true essence of those warbirds.
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Unfortunately, I think the 'true essence' of the "Burma Banshees" P-40 requires more weathering, shading, gradients, and fades than HM is capable of doing. Also: in my opinion, panel wash.

FM put out a 1/48 burma banshees p-40. it was one of their weakest.

The chances of seeing new 1/72 single engine prop fighters from HM is very very very slim. Corgi makes decent ones, though and you can still find them. Maybe ask corgi to make this scheme in 1/72? i think they'd do a credible job.
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Just found this on the web...some illustrations from a French graphic novel artist named Romain Hugault. Very nicely done. He has certainly captured the true essence of those warbirds.
This is the Graphic Novel you are referring to. Its a series called "Angel Wings" written by Yann, drawn by Hagault, published by Paquet group.

http://www.editionspaquet.com/bd/cat...-angel-wings-1

I live in Paris, I haven't got this series but I did read it in the store, the illustrations are amazing but the story is slower than the previous series. The second album (2 of 3 part series came out just before Xmas).

HOWEVER, I strongly recommend people get "Le Grand Duc" series first (also a 3 part series) also drawn by Hagault as its abit more action packed.

Its absolutely a amazing graphic novel. If you are interested in WWII air combat and don't speak French, well this is your incentive to learn it.

Story is about the parallel lives of 2 WWII Aces, one a German Luftwaffe Pilot named Wulf and a female Soviet Pilot named Lilya. Although both pilots are patriotic and loyal to their country, but both have issues with the authority. Wulf because he is a ardent anti-nazi, and Lilya has to cope with being a pawn in a oppressive Soviet political Machine.

This is the announcement you Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSLwjy5dIk

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Do they come in english?
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Do they come in english?
Not this series I'm afraid but Paquet (the publisher) does have others in English (so I am told). I'll shoot an email to them and see if they have any plans for it.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grand-Duke-R...hugault+romain

His series The Grand Duke come in English. Also check his Pin-up Wings. No need for translation...
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Unfortunately, I think the 'true essence' of the "Burma Banshees" P-40 requires more weathering, shading, gradients, and fades than HM is capable of doing. Also: in my opinion, panel wash.
Agreed for this scheme at least, it just wouldn't be the same with a "clean" finish.

I don't know about other collectors but I fell the P-40 makes a better "billboard" for pin up art then the P-51, possibly because P-40 pin ups are more known, at least tiger mouth is
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This is the Graphic Novel you are referring to. Its a series called "Angel Wings" written by Yann, drawn by Hagault, published by Paquet group.

Angel Wings #1 | Les Editions Paquet

I live in Paris, I haven't got this series but I did read it in the store, the illustrations are amazing but the story is slower than the previous series. The second album (2 of 3 part series came out just before Xmas).

HOWEVER, I strongly recommend people get "Le Grand Duc" series first (also a 3 part series) also drawn by Hagault as its abit more action packed.

Its absolutely a amazing graphic novel. If you are interested in WWII air combat and don't speak French, well this is your incentive to learn it.

Story is about the parallel lives of 2 WWII Aces, one a German Luftwaffe Pilot named Wulf and a female Soviet Pilot named Lilya. Although both pilots are patriotic and loyal to their country, but both have issues with the authority. Wulf because he is a ardent anti-nazi, and Lilya has to cope with being a pawn in a oppressive Soviet political Machine.

This is the announcement you Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSLwjy5dIk
Thanks for the info mmarsh! I will try to see if my local bookstore carries it.
The “Grand Duc” looks really amazing.
Also found out that there is also a series called “Le pilote à l’Edelweiss” featuring planes of the Great War which seems to be brilliantly done too.

There is another book by the same artist featuring a pilot and a Spitfire (I think it is volume 2?) on the cover but is not available in North America... do you know of that particular one?
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Thanks for the info mmarsh! I will try to see if my local bookstore carries it.
The “Grand Duc” looks really amazing.
Also found out that there is also a series called “Le pilote à l’Edelweiss” featuring planes of the Great War which seems to be brilliantly done too.

There is another book by the same artist featuring a pilot and a Spitfire (I think it is volume 2?) on the cover but is not available in North America... do you know of that particular one?
Not off the top of my head. "Au-Dela des nuages" (Above the Clouds) has both a Spitfire a a P-51B on it (that's another good series) although the writer is different.

Aviation Graphic Novels are quite popular in France so there are several series going on. Pacquet has a series called "the Cockpit Collection" try one of these.

Collection Cockpit | Les Editions Paquet

Angel Wings
Au-delà des nuages
Bombroad
Ciel de Guerre
Ciel en Ruine
Dog Fights
Gilles Durance
Le Grand Duc
L'Aviatrice
Lucio Perinotto Artbook
Malouines, le Ciel appartient aux Faucons
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Le Pilote à l'Edelweiss
Pin Up Wings
Speedbirds

Soliel Productions has "les Tigres volent", (The Flying Tigers) its a 5 part series about the American AVG in China.

These are the ones I know...

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The chances of seeing new 1/72 single engine prop fighters from HM is very very very slim. Corgi makes decent ones, though and you can still find them. Maybe ask corgi to make this scheme in 1/72? i think they'd do a credible job.
Agree with the HM 1/72 prop assessment. They have largely ceded this space to Corgi.

However, getting Corgi to do anything that isn't UK centric or directly appealing to it's UK base these days is overly optimistic. The one exception is commissioned pieces. Frankly we'd be more likely to get this a/c from FOV/Unimax. Now if only they could improve their molds and hide those hideous screws.....
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Not off the top of my head. "Au-Dela des nuages" (Above the Clouds) has both a Spitfire a a P-51B on it (that's another good series) although the writer is different.

Aviation Graphic Novels are quite popular in France so there are several series going on. Pacquet has a series called "the Cockpit Collection" try one of these.

Collection Cockpit | Les Editions Paquet

Angel Wings
Au-delà des nuages
Bombroad
Ciel de Guerre
Ciel en Ruine
Dog Fights
Gilles Durance
Le Grand Duc
L'Aviatrice
Lucio Perinotto Artbook
Malouines, le Ciel appartient aux Faucons
Le Passeur
Le Pilote à l'Edelweiss
Pin Up Wings
Speedbirds
Soliel Productions has "les Tigres volent", (The Flying Tigers) its a 5 part series about the American AVG in China.
These are the ones I know...
Thanks for the info. I actually found volume #1 of the Angel Wings series (you say they’ve also issued #2 in December?). The illustration work is really top notch.
Here is the cover of the other book I was referring to —*would it be strictly a special cover for the European market? I’ve tried various bookstores and online merchants but couldn’t find any of those.
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Sorry I was mixed up about "Angel Wings". Its Tome 1 that came out in November.
It all depends on the series and publisher but with French Bande-Dessine (Comics) they usually come out with a new book every year, so expect Tome 2 in Q4 2015.

If you like "Angel Wings" I strongly suggest trying to find "Le Grand Duc". As Richard from Rotterdam said...Amazon.fr should be able to send it to you.

Tome 1 Amazon.fr - Le Grand Duc, tome 1 : Les sorcières de la nuit - Yann, Romain Hugault - Livres

Tome 2 Amazon.fr - Le Grand Duc, tome 2 : Camarade Lilya - Yann, Romain Hugault - Livres

Tome 3 Amazon.fr - Le Grand Duc, Tome 3 : Wulf & Lilya - Yann, Romain Hugault - Livres

I have read "Au Dela des neiges". The story is about 2 pilots (a Frenchman and a American) who meet before the war during the civil and the story of their friendship/rivalry which continues during the war (the Frenchman joins the RAF Lefayette Squadron and the American is with the 8th AF). Ill stop the spoilers there.
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Sorry I was mixed up about "Angel Wings". Its Tome 1 that came out in November.
It all depends on the series and publisher but with French Bande-Dessine (Comics) they usually come out with a new book every year, so expect Tome 2 in Q4 2015.

If you like "Angel Wings" I strongly suggest trying to find "Le Grand Duc". As Richard from Rotterdam said...Amazon.fr should be able to send it to you.

Tome 1 Amazon.fr - Le Grand Duc, tome 1 : Les sorcières de la nuit - Yann, Romain Hugault - Livres

Tome 2 Amazon.fr - Le Grand Duc, tome 2 : Camarade Lilya - Yann, Romain Hugault - Livres

Tome 3 Amazon.fr - Le Grand Duc, Tome 3 : Wulf & Lilya - Yann, Romain Hugault - Livres

I have read "Au Dela des neiges". The story is about 2 pilots (a Frenchman and a American) who meet before the war during the civil and the story of their friendship/rivalry which continues during the war (the Frenchman joins the RAF Lefayette Squadron and the American is with the 8th AF). Ill stop the spoilers there.
Thanks Richard and mmarsh for the tips. I will certainly check these out. If they are up to the quality standards of Angel Wings, then they are a “must have” for me. I see that “Le Grand Duc” has quite a few nice illustrations of FW 190’s!

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