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Old 11-07-2014, 02:38 PM   #51
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You should try Pete's Collectables out of texas. Great service and never had a problem. My Hobby Master F-15E is coming from him. I've used the Mule too. Personal choice
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I can vouch for Pete's Collectibles as well, I have never had a problem with him. I have had multiple issues with The Mule including long wait times and product not shipped due to stocking issues.
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if Pete ships the "wrong" model or a defective model then customer must pay for the additional shipment fees, not so with Mule.
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:55 PM   #56
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Awaiting my HM this coming week! Can anyone tell me where I might obtain a set of aftr-market nozzles to retrofit on the F-15E? Haven't done this before, so if anyone has some pointers, would appreciate any help/advice before I begin-don't want to mess up the model!
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Ditto on replacing those nozzles. There has been some discussion on the Hangar Pub along with the pics showing the nozzles popped off, so it looks like it should be somewhat easy to replace them. Just need to find a good kit and size up the pieces to the model properly.

I hate modifying a kit but in this case, it would be well worth it with such an otherwise great model, those nozzles look terrible.

I wish as well HM would make the same stand they do with the F-22 model. A straight through piece could be made that would allow for an inflight display with the center tank on if they cut a slot in the center line tank as well. Much better than the overly large cradles Hm has been using as of late.
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I wish as well HM would make the same stand they do with the F-22 model. A straight through piece could be made that would allow for an inflight display with the center tank on if they cut a slot in the center line tank as well. Much better than the overly large cradles Hm has been using as of late.
Yeah but then you run into issues where it either cannot be displayed without the belly tank, or it looks supremely goofy without it. Look to the HM F-105 as an example of this...it would be great to be able to display it with 6 Mk82 or 117 bombs on the centerline rack, but if you do this you can only do it wheels down, not gear up in flight - no slot through the bomb rack. Same goes for ECM pods or other bombs carried on the centerline station. Unless HM cut a slot in each one for the stand, it wouldn't work.

And the Thunderbird F-105B is why it looks goofy without the tank. yeah it'll fit on the stand...but it just looks weird.
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Century Wings was able to do so with their A-6. They produced two tanks, one with the slot and one without.
If the stand bar is able to slip in deep enough, with or without the center tank, it would make for a great stand. As for the targeting pods, yep, too small to do so, but I would be happy to go without and get rid of that darn cradle. Takes away tremendously from the look of the model.
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I guess I'd rather see them buy Witty's stands and do strong exhausts - I really like that method of display. Poseable, looks better. If only HM would make it so you could display F-16/F-2 aircraft gear up with the centerline fuel tank or ECM pod...
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I guess I'd rather see them buy Witty's stands and do strong exhausts - I really like that method of display. Poseable, looks better. If only HM would make it so you could display F-16/F-2 aircraft gear up with the centerline fuel tank or ECM pod...
they could if they made the cradle deeper. btw, did you know can get HM's F-16 to go on the stand with the u/c down, a la landing/taking off? all you have to to is put it on the stand backwards. ditto the HM harrier with the gun pods fitted.
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Finally got mine. Honestly, one of my most satisfying model purchases.









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Congrats on the new acquisition, looks nice! I have been tempted on this one but was holding off for another model. Knowing that what I am looking for won't be out for at least almost 6 months, very tempted to make the leap on this one, especially after seeing those pics.
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Finally got mine. Honestly, one of my most satisfying model purchases.
Well, this shot in particular makes it very tempting indeed.
Especially seeing that, other than a BoB spit, some of the releases I’m waiting for will not be available until March 2015!
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I still think the load out is inaccurate for a modern F-15E mission.

I know they can and have carried two missiles, either AIM-7's or AIM-120's on one side of the fuselage and bombs on the other side, but all the pics of F-15E missions over Afghanistan I have seen have them with 1 x 2000lb bomb on the center line, 2 to 4 x 500lb LGB's on the one side and 4 or 5 500lb JDAMs on the other, with one drop tank under each wing and 1 x AIM-9M/L under one wing and 1 x AIM-120 under the other.

Still, aside from that, and based on the pics I have seen, this is an amazing model and one I really want and will get as soon as finances allow.
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I still think the load out is inaccurate for a modern F-15E mission.

I know they can and have carried two missiles, either AIM-7's or AIM-120's on one side of the fuselage and bombs on the other side, but all the pics of F-15E missions over Afghanistan I have seen have them with 1 x 2000lb bomb on the center line, 2 to 4 x 500lb LGB's on the one side and 4 or 5 500lb JDAMs on the other, with one drop tank under each wing and 1 x AIM-9M/L under one wing and 1 x AIM-120 under the other.

Still, aside from that, and based on the pics I have seen, this is an amazing model and one I really want and will get as soon as finances allow.
I agree with you about every word that you have wrote (even the financials opportunities )
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I still think the load out is inaccurate for a modern F-15E mission.
No, the load out is accurate.

Hobby Master had a former Strike Eagle pilot advising them on the weapons load for this release.

Of course keep in mind that during the course of the deployment, weapon loads varied depending on the particular mission.

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I love my F-15!!! Looking forward to the SJ Mudhen and maybe some Desert Storm F-15C's!
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This unrealistic load out looks very familiar:



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Hi, got this from Hobby Master re the correct placement of all the attachments that are with the model.

I was wondering if like me you would like to see an ability to purchase additional parts from Hobby Master to vary the loadout from the standard to a more individual loadout based on your interest in a particular time frame?
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definitely a YES
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Hi, got this from Hobby Master re the correct placement of all the attachments that are with the model.

I was wondering if like me you would like to see an ability to purchase additional parts from Hobby Master to vary the loadout from the standard to a more individual loadout based on your interest in a particular time frame?
DEFINITELY YES.

I don't know why HM hasn't done this yet. Potential to make so much money from us!

Also I still want to load up my F-15E to the max just for kicks. Still seems so bare now :P
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Really general question here but everyone has been excited about HM's F-15 yeah ? Why no love for the Witty F-15 ? I just get the sense that the way I hear HM's version get talked about, it's like the first diecast version of the F-15.

I know Witty has never been perfect, as far as I can tell the air brake could fit better and the exhaust nozzels look better but overall I though it was good... I'm sure the canopy has an issue to anyone in the know but to me it looks like a F-15 through and through
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Really general question here but everyone has been excited about HM's F-15 yeah ? Why no love for the Witty F-15 ? I just get the sense that the way I hear HM's version get talked about, it's like the first diecast version of the F-15.

I know Witty has never been perfect, as far as I can tell the air brake could fit better and the exhaust nozzels look better but overall I though it was good... I'm sure the canopy has an issue to anyone in the know but to me it looks like a F-15 through and through
I personally like the Witty single seat version of the F-15 and have one in my collection.

However the Witty dual F-15E has an absolutely horrible canopy which completely ruins the model. I'm glad I waited for the Hobby Master Strike Eagle.

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i have absolutely no issues with all of my witty f15s! they're excellent for what they are, odd-shaped canopy and all

my take is that the only reason why hm gets the lion share of air time on this forum is simply because they keep churning out new releases (and also how inaccurate the colour scheme, gun port and exhaust petals are)
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The Witty F15A/C is fine and to be frank HM will have to churn out a star to beat Witty's version. But the Witty Mudhen...forget it. Its not just the canopy but the vast majority of the releases had no CFT's or wpns on the fuselage.

I think the last two releases including a Lakenheath release did have them...or a version of them but apart from that it was a poor rendition.

So when it comes to the Mudhen...I think HM wins the biccies.
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Phew, ok well the one I have on order has the CFT's and a tonne of weapons

What exactly is wrong with the canopy ?

I'm with you Tomcatter, I think they look good despite the inaccurate canopy and cheaper also

But I wouldn't say no to a HM Eagle either

Thanks for the explanation guys
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i'm also with you ukrainian falcons. my mudhens have cfts and are also armed to the teeth...
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The overall shape of the nose section of the Witty (Dual/Strike) Eagle was completely warped if you ask me. Seen their Strike Eagle in Model Zone shops in the UK and I was not impressed.
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Really general question here but everyone has been excited about HM's F-15 yeah ? Why no love for the Witty F-15 ? I just get the sense that the way I hear HM's version get talked about, it's like the first diecast version of the F-15.
I wouldn’t say that there is not much love for the Witty F-15 (the single seat at least), I think it’s just more that the Witty mould is over & done with now, whereas HM’s is only just beginning & is therefore generating more excitement and anticipation.

I have 2 Witty F-15C’s & do like them, sure they have their flaws but I find them a more than acceptable model. With a fresh tooling on the way though, the hope is that HM can now raise the bar and correct the flaws of the Witty rendition & produce a model with better accuracy in both mould and colour. They have to, especially as you alluded to there is already so many Witty's out there & cheaper as well.
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I'm sure the canopy has an issue to anyone in the know but to me it looks like a F-15 through and through
I don't disagree that the 'overall' look is good, but the canopy/cockpit is just not right, from the shape to the proportions of the pilot/seat (below photo credit to SKF from another thread). But obviously it's an issue to some people more than others & that's fair enough.

Don't look at the photo too much though, you might not ever look at your Witty Eagle the same way again

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I'd say your spot on Rhino, the Witty Eagles are older releases, they've had their time and now it's up to HM to step up and make something even better.

I see what you mean about the shape, HM's is a lot closer to the real thing but I'll still love my Witty even after staring at the comparison for 5 minutes (hugs F-15 box )

But one thing I think Witty did good and it's probably down to a pure fluke due to their heavier then usual / double coat of paint process, the panel lines are wayyyyyyyy more subtle then on HM's and this I think, maybe why Witty can say overall, their effort is still decent

Now put a comparison of the HM nose section up and see if you still like your HM
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subtle panel lines are not an advantage on that scale, because then where the two halves meet will look very ugly. With deeper panel lines the seams are fudged, and you will have a fine looking model from a distance of one to two feets.
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