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Old 08-13-2014, 04:51 PM   #1
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Evening all,
I heard a rumour (got it from a guy that was at RIAT, who talked to the Corgi Rep there) that the next planned 1:72 Vulcan release was to be the anti-flash white version.
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1. anyone else heard this
2. how well would it sell(I think it would go like hot cakes)
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For me, it will be a 100% yes!!! :-)
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It's the one I'm waiting for. Carrying Blue Steel of course.
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The rumour is doing the rounds and would make sense after the first release being a camo version. Reckon they'll need keep the run size lowish, no way they'll shift 3000 of them like the first one of XH558.
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I have to be honest, I'm split over this rumour. On one hand, I've just spent close to £180 on a vulcan that I thought may be a one off, something really special from Corgi and I'm a bit disappointed that they may release another shortly after.
But on the other hand, its 1:72 scale vulcan in anti flash white!!!!!
I will probably get one if it comes along, and the way corgi is releasing models at the moment, i'll have plenty of time to save for it!
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If its Anti-Flash, with a Blue Steel....sold.
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I have to be honest, I'm split over this rumour. On one hand, I've just spent close to £180 on a vulcan that I thought may be a one off, something really special from Corgi and I'm a bit disappointed that they may release another shortly after.
But on the other hand, its 1:72 scale vulcan in anti flash white!!!!!
I will probably get one if it comes along, and the way corgi is releasing models at the moment, i'll have plenty of time to save for it!
With the amount a new mould cost there is no way this would be a one off from Corgi, especially for the size of the model. My only worry is they'll rush out releases which would actually devalue the first release, as it'll be overkill and end up in the dump bins as in the past. Someone on DAF was saying there could be as many as 8 unique schemes for the model, so maybe one every 8-12 months, so hopefully Corgi will get a profit out of it.
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If they don't get a profit out of this, they're fools.
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Well, so far there have been two pre-pros and both were wrong. At a manufacturing run of 3000 and a price range likely at the wrong end of 200 pounds, they really can't afford to muck it up too much.

I can just see it, as punters look at the real thing with its big arse parked on the tarmac in front of them and they turn around to see a 200 pound or so model with the wrong colours.

Then there is the upcoming CAT next month. Hopefully its unlikely, but can you imagine if they announce the next one next month....white anti-flash with Blue Steel and the first one isn't right.

Certainly the above is all doomsday scenarios and very unlikely......hopefully??

But it is Corgi we are talking about and "fool" is an apt adjective for them on occasion.
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at 200 euros priced in holland....i pass////would rather buy 3 or 4 models for the price
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I just read on the Motorpool that XH558 will be released in the first week of September. Although a hefty price tag I can't wait for it.
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I just read on the Motorpool that XH558 will be released in the first week of September. Although a hefty price tag I can't wait for it.

I got really lucky, my local model shop reserved their last one for me AND allowed me to pay up for it, so its already paid for. Good news on the firm date, mine should be around the same time then
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I just read on the Motorpool that XH558 will be released in the first week of September. Although a hefty price tag I can't wait for it.
Really??

Mmm, the Corgi newsletters have not mentioned that, hence I had assumed Oct now.

The US first???

Has happened before, but, in my view, odd if it happened with this release.
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I've been told by the Mule it'll be in by September. I'm gladly shelling out over $200 for this bird, and after a year and a half of waiting, it better be worth it. A kick in the arse would be the decision to make ALL of the V-Bombers in 1/72. I'd be all in for the Victor.
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A Victor? Yes please!!
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Uh-huh. Those lines...
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A Victor? Yes please!!
It would be a nice partner for the Vulcan.......
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Yep it sure would. Definitely not the most beautiful design ever, but what an impressive machine. Still remember hearing the noise of those engines and what an impressive sight when it landed with a huuuuge drag chute...
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Uh-huh. Those lines...
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Yes, beautiful and extraordinary.

I have to confess if I had to pick between the Vulcan and Victor....then the Victor wins hands down.

Not that I am unhappy with the Vulcan as I am thrilled, but a Victor in 1:72 would be speccy indeed.

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I'm really hoping they eventually do a Operation Black Buck release, from what I understand the camo is very similar to X558 just with a black or dark grey bottom.
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just got email from corgi! vulcan touchdown next friday 19th!!! not sure about overseas! it inckuded a video clip!

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I've pre-ordered this and consider myself quite tolerant, but that join line at the cockpit looks.. pretty bad and the detail in places is a bit thin, though overall it looks the part. I'm not complaining about the color though others will.
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Looking at the video, that looks like quite a small stand to balance a big bit of aircraft on. I guess I'll be having mine gear down

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I've pre-ordered this and consider myself quite tolerant, but that join line at the cockpit looks.. pretty bad and the detail in places is a bit thin, though overall it looks the part. I'm not complaining about the color though others will.
The colours have been endlessly mentioned to them, hoping they did act on it and that one in the vid is the same incorrect sample we saw 2 months ago
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Looking at the video, that looks like quite a small stand to balance a big bit of aircraft on. I guess I'll be having mine gear down
He did say it might be lighter than you expect, and the way he holds it it does look quite light. Hope it doesn't feel too plasticy.
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He did say it might be lighter than you expect, and the way he holds it it does look quite light. Hope it doesn't feel too plasticy.
For $200+ it better not feel too plasticy. As a rule, I don't mind plastic models, on the shelf you can't tell the difference with a well-made model...but this was promised to be mostly diecast...and spending the best part of a day's wage on a 1/72 plastic model isn't my idea of a great buy.
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The Mule has charged my card, so either it's on the way or they're just checking my balance.
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Looks like they made a mess of the colours.

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A better picture from the "Mule".

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No sale ;(
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Mine's currently flying over the Pacific. Will probably need refueling.
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Unfortunate that they couldn't nail that grey but I'll be interested to see collectors views on the tooling itself. As I've said the one for me will be the anti-flash white which one would hope they'd have a difficult time to get wrong. May well prove to be a little more friendly on the gaps too but time shall tell.

Think they'll struggle shifting these anyway.
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We're gonna need a bigger shelf.
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I've always been bemused when diecast manufactuerrs announce a run size and then modify it. NOt that diecast aircraft are serious investmens (they're not), but when a run size is announced without disclaimer or hedge, pre-orderes are placed based on that announced run size and then the run size is increased, well, that's false advertising and/or fraud. now, of course, it's a piddly unimportant type of fraud, but it's still more than legally sufficient for anybody who wanted to to cancel a pre-order even from those "your pre-order is non-cancellable" vendors.

Why do i mentiont this? i am not 100% sure, but havent we heard that the run size has been increased from 3000 to 4000 here?

about corgi's strategey on this one: first, i dont think it willl sell very much outside of the UK. It's a big aircraft and given the glut of good diecast out thee, its global appeal may be limited. however, i think they are spot on in making a ton of them. economies of scale lower the unit production cost, of course, but most importantly, the xh558 'vulcan to the sky' trust has every intention of going from airshow to airshow for years to come selling all sorts of swag to raise money and thiis is exactly the sort of non-perishable (even t-shirts are more perishable) big ticket item that the need to have in stock to appeal to not just collectors, but *donors* and casual visitos. i sure hope they have come into agreement with corgi to take at least a thousand of these which will be stored in some storage unit somewhere with a few being taken to each airshow for sale. this will keep the aftermarket prices low, but will be a steady stream of revenue for xh558.

as for the color, it correctly conveys the appearance of the aircraft oin a tpical grey english day. at night. both the grey and the green are quite badly done. the below image shows the colors closer than most of the other images (that is, the below image is maximally kind fo the model).

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I can't see the problem, no literally I can't see the problem, I only have a black and white monitor.
I hope this means that plans are under way to produce a Valiant and Victor in the same scale.
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A BLACK AND WHITE MONITOR,do those even exist?
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For $200+ it better not feel too plasticy. As a rule, I don't mind plastic models, on the shelf you can't tell the difference with a well-made model...but this was promised to be mostly diecast...and spending the best part of a day's wage on a 1/72 plastic model isn't my idea of a great buy.
I got to see one of these in ARD today and was prepared to flex my muscles to lift it - what a shock, I would say it's about 90% PLASTIC!
Only diecast metal parts are the tail cone, engine nozzles and undercarriage parts. Some large seam line joints at the wing leading edge didn't look too hot either. £180 for a diecast 1/72 Vulcan maybe, but a plastic one......quite happy with my Airfix kit at a fraction of the price!
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I got to see one of these in ARD today and was prepared to flex my muscles to lift it - what a shock, I would say it's about 90% PLASTIC!
Only diecast metal parts are the tail cone, engine nozzles and undercarriage parts. Some large seam line joints at the wing leading edge didn't look too hot either. £180 for a diecast 1/72 Vulcan maybe, but a plastic one......quite happy with my Airfix kit at a fraction of the price!
Oh No! this news, alongside The Photos from Fortunate Son may well be the straw that broke the camels back.
I'm due to pick this up tomorrow from my local model shop.
I'm sure if I decide against it, I'll be able to trade my £170 for something else
Maybe a 1:32 mosquito may numb the disappointment
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I haven't seen it "in the flesh" yet, but I most definitely never judge a model by pictures from the Mule as they are always over saturated.

What I gathered from pictures of the first pre-pros the aircraft should have been made with way more metal than Adrian describes. But of course Corgi might have gone and changed this.

As for appeal: the Vulcan is probably on par with the SR-71, it is an iconic bird of the cold war. And a war bird, albeit with a not so sexy story of course...
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I hope somebody here who is getting one can post some up close pictures of theres and there impressions/review of the Vulcan
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well check this video from corgi themselves on this page making the model itself!

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ive always wanted the Vulcan from the day i saw it in one of James Bonds film in my younger days.....seeing the price and the quality....i wont regret not getting one
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Only the nose & tail section are diecast - the rest is a made up Airfix kit!!

Total Weight including all packaging is 3.4 kg.
Stand weight about 600 grams
Box 1400 grams
Basic model without the bits attached is 990 grams!!


Really can't see them moving 4000 at £179 recommended retail
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They were fools.

Were it all metal, I'd pay the sticker price. That much plastic? No way.

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I hope somebody here who is getting one can post some up close pictures of theres and there impressions/review of the Vulcan
I will be taking photos of mine, but probably won't be here until not this week but the week after (from US to NZ).

I'm sure someone will put up photos before then.
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Well Gents,
I took the plunge and cancelled my Vulcan!! I think I'll wait for the all white anti flash one, if it ever gets made.
However, with the refund, I bought a HM Delta Dart 'Spittin Kittens', a 1:72 Airfix Valiant and I still have enough change to buy a 1:32 Mossie, so that has eased my pain a little.
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Well Gents,
I took the plunge and cancelled my Vulcan!! I think I'll wait for the all white anti flash one, if it ever gets made.
However, with the refund, I bought a HM Delta Dart 'Spittin Kittens', a 1:72 Airfix Valiant and I still have enough change to buy a 1:32 Mossie, so that has eased my pain a little.
Better decision all around I think mate.

I was actually down at RAF Cosford a few weeks ago ogling the Valiant there, XD818. Those clean, elegant lines in it's anti-flash Christmas island scheme are quite a contrast to it's two sisters. Beautiful thing anyway, stole the show a little for me
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Thanks A-holt.
I love Cosford, I have to take the students there quite often, I love the place. The V force are all great, only the way they are displayed its hard to get the full majesty of them.
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