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Old 09-21-2014, 12:33 PM   #51
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Here's my new delta dart Dart, next to my Delta Dagger:
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Loads of metal in that

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I have a 1/72 Vulcan made by Executive Display Models, in the anti flash scheme. Like some others on here, I've been fascinated by the Vulcan since childhood, and back when I had this model made, there were no 'over the counter' 1/72 Vulcan models around.

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The Vulcan has landed! Despite my trepidation over the news that the model is mostly plastic, I didn't cancel my order. Now that I've gotten a good look at it, I'm happy with the model after all...and didn't have to talk myself into that. It's solid and very well made, although with the typical Corgi gaps we all know and love. Don't know that it's quite worth $200, but eh, it's only money. Wish I had a functioning camera to show pics, but I don't.
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Sounds positive. Mine is on its way to me. Having read your comments, I'm really looking forward to handling it

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Old 09-24-2014, 12:47 AM   #55
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The beast has arrived. Look at that box.



Photos and impressions will follow soon!
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:37 AM   #56
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Well here it is.



Despite the colour issues I really like it. The wings are plastic, but it's an extremely hefty model and doesn't feel like a kit at all. The nose, rear section and belly are all metal, including parts of the lower wings which you can pretty much see from below:



It's a little bigger than I was expecting, especially the fuselage. The whole thing creaks and groans when you lift it.



The nose joint is probably the worst one on the whole model, but it's really not bad in person, depends where the light hits it. Also as you can see here there's a bit of paint smearing on my version.



The windshield wipers and pilots are a nice touch.



Overall quite happy with it. It looks pretty damn imposing in my collection!




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The box was HUGE. Big enough to bury a large dog or small child in...not that you'd want to, of course...heh. I think Corgi did the best they could with this beast, and you will NEVER, ever ever find anyone else that will make the Vulcan in this scale. Plus, some of the profit from the sales of this model will go to help the real Vulcan continue to fly, and that's worth something, right?
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Thanks for the pics. I got mine today and can't wait to put it on display.
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I need a bigger shelf! At least I can get it in there though.

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Love the Vulcan's shadow!!
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Oooo, I can't wait for mine to get here from ARD

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Re the camo colours, it looks like the green has been matched to a tin of Humrol #30 matt dark green, instead of matching it to British Standard 381C #220 Olive Green.
However, having said that, a few Vulcans towards the end of their career were painted in a darker grey and similar green, so it's not that far out to represent one of those, although this one is supposed to represent XH558 as it is today.
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Re the camo colours, it looks like the green has been matched to a tin of Humrol #30 matt dark green, instead of matching it to British Standard 381C #220 Olive Green.
However, having said that, a few Vulcans towards the end of their career were painted in a darker grey and similar green, so it's not that far out to represent one of those, although this one is supposed to represent XH558 as it is today.

Yes, try XL426.

I suspect this will dump....so I might buy this model when it does and change the tail number. Have to double check but not to much more needs to changed I think.
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I think theres to many negative comments here, the model is a beast, the detail is fantastic, yes its plasticy but still think its worth the money, limited addition aswell, it will be a long long time before you see that 100% diecast
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I dont have a problem with the plastic.

What I have a problem with is a 150 pound model with the wrong colours.

Also, they manufactured 4000 of them. Yes limited, technically...but good luck selling 4000 150 pound models, particularly when there will be more releases (if Corgi and/or Aviation Archive survive ).

Other than that, its a speccy model with a ton of GRAVITAS.
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I dont have a problem with the plastic.

What I have a problem with is a 150 pound model with the wrong colours.

Also, they manufactured 4000 of them. Yes limited, technically...but good luck selling 4000 150 pound models, particularly when there will be more releases (if Corgi and/or Aviation Archive survive ).

Other than that, its a speccy model with a ton of GRAVITAS.
if you think the posts here are negative, that's nothng- over on the DAF, having had a pop about the colours, some are now starting to bash the model itself, nit-picking & rivet-counting minor details like the panel lines, tail pipes, u/c, etc.
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The windshield wipers and pilots are a nice touch.
Where did you get the pilots? My Vulcan did not come with them.
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Where did you get the pilots? My Vulcan did not come with them.
No mine were already in there. Are you sure you don't have them? They're pretty hard to spot unless the light is right on them.
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No mine were already in there. Are you sure you don't have them? They're pretty hard to spot unless the light is right on them.
Sorry, I meant the two figures you have standing next to the aircraft.
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Ah, no those are from a box of NATO pilots that I painted up. I just use them for scale.
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Ah, no those are from a box of NATO pilots that I painted up. I just use them for scale.
Ah, in that case I will refrain from registering a complaint with my retailer. Thanks for the clarification!
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This may have already been noted, but I think there can be no doubt that there will be follow-on models. The evidence, if it were required, is in the polystyrene packaging. A redundant recess in the distinct shape of a Blue Steel stand off missile is there!
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Assuming Aviation Archive survives.

I am hearing that the next CAT was supposed to be out last week and Blighty Trade have no idea whats happening with it??

I think there is a bit of churn going on at Hornby/Corgi HQ!!.
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Here is a "plastic" review, if you haven't already seen it:

Dora 9 Diecast: Regtheveg on DHP reviews the Corgi AA27201 Vulcan XH558.
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Assuming Aviation Archive survives.

I am hearing that the next CAT was supposed to be out last week and Blighty Trade have no idea whats happening with it??

I think there is a bit of churn going on at Hornby/Corgi HQ!!.
Maybe Corgi are just restructuring their business in order to ensure quality diecast that are on time, for years to come
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Maybe Corgi are just restructuring their business in order to ensure quality diecast that are on time, for years to come

Another one!!!

Thats what happens when you only cater to a market that has full cabinets and does nothing but reminisce about the good old days of dumps.

There is a whole wide world out there full collectors but Corgi are stuck on stupid.

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Well I can dream.........
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Well I can dream.........
I have been doing that for years "Dear Boy'.

I once had a exchange on the forums to one Corgi spokesman/cheerleader about a, say a RAAF 2 SQN Canberra Phan Rang Bay AFB, South Vietnam 68. I pointed out the sales of RAAF jets such as the F111, F18F and F4. I pointed out it was a Vietnam War Bomber, it was the last RAAF Jet Bombers to be released, 2 SQN had more continuous operational time than any other Canberra unit globally and it could be argued that it had more continuous operational time than any bomber unit...globally and so it goes on.

The only person who could not see the potential was was Corgi's spokesman/cheerleader (imagine my surprise ).

At anyrate, what we ended up getting was the Argie Canberra (which I was rather enthusiastic about), which was cancelled.

As I say Corgi are stuck on stupid.

This obsession lead to releasing "the big one" for the Blighty market....in order to have Britons flock back to Aviation Archive........only to **** it up.

Meanwhile, those that argue relentlessly that Corgi concentrate on the ever shrinking Blighty market (the Vulcan was supposed to be the most anticipated release ever in the Hobby)....AKA senior membership of DAF, are now the one's who are doing the most to tear the damn thing apart.....along with Corgi's name (hiding DAF from non-members wont hide that fact, but then that action was just a result of some perverse paranoia....and all it did was damage the Hobby in Britain (Corgi must be thrilled).....and clearly it has not achieved what it was suppose to achieve ).

As I say....stuck on stupid.

The quicker they understand (and listen) there is a global market (the Commonwealth and USA)....that is likely to much more appreciative of Corgi releases....the better off it will be.

Whether it is too late....time will tell. Should have a better idea, early this week.

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Here is a "plastic" review, if you haven't already seen it:

Dora 9 Diecast: Regtheveg on DHP reviews the Corgi AA27201 Vulcan XH558.
interesting first post given stats, but it was a good read. On the same hand I've seen alot of diecast that look very ERTLish, though they weren't asking over 200 for them. Is a detailed plastic with minimal diecast worse or better than a true diecast that looks worse or on par with an 80's-90's diecast toy?
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I agree with you PBR, and I am a massive fan of Corgi, they were the reason I got into collecting in the first place.
the Brit market is shrinking, most have been done to death and Corgi need to widen their horizons a bit. But if Corgi don't do the Brit stuff, who is? HM have their own market, Witty/Sky Guardians have gone to the wall. I know 72 Aviation and Oxford do, but generally their models leave me a bit cold.

I would love to see this Vulcan do well, to be quickly followed by an announcement the the other 2 V force aircraft were to follow, or even the white anti-flash Vulcan, but I think a lot of collectors felt a bit let down with this one; months late and too much plastic, particularly with the massive price tag.

I did hear that parts of Hornby/Corgi production were coming back from China (the Humbrol paints in particular) whether this sees an improvement, only time wil tell.
But from the bottom of my heart, I hope Corgi are around for years to come
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So do I........I have over a hundred Corgi AA and none of them are single engined WW aircraft (I prefer 1:48) so you can imagine the coin I have spent on them.

Keep and eye on Oxford. The Anson (which in my view is a fantastic release) wont be the last.

They have their own factory....and for the first time when it comes to Diecast of the quality of Corgi, there is another manufacturer catering to Blighty.

But cheaper.

Hopefully Oxford will think outside of Blighty in the next year or two.

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Just had a quick look fir the Oxford Anson, I could only find drawings.
A couple of things would elevate Oxford, I think:
turning props and interchangeable gear(they may already have these)
Limited editions
pilot figures
And ( I know this sounds this sounds corny) but improved packaging that caches the eye. I think packaging is as much part of the collecting as the model is, and good packaging would help to sell the aircraft and brand.
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The first release should be out soon. The second release 1st quarter next year. They have the undercarriage option and I think turning props.

Limited Editions is an interesting one. I personally have no issue with it.

As for the packaging......the Blue Box releases are wonderfully packed.

Oxford have two types of releases. The ones in the plastic bubble (the basic and original releases) and the Blue Box models.

The Blue Box model series are quality Diecast...as good as Corgi in my view. Similar house style. They include the Rapide, Hornet and Anson.

But cheaper.

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As a Yank, WTF is Blighty? I don't get it.

Wycoff, I read your post and couldn't agree more. I won't pay $200plus for a plastic model. I would pay, oh...120 or so. But you're absolutely correct, it was always presented as a die-cast model, I mean a little plastic I can understand but this was bait and switch. And if it's plastic what's up with those huge section join gaps? Boy am I glad I didn't pre-order this!!!
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OK PBR, You've got me, I've just pre-ordered the Anson
I have the breaking strain of a kit kat
To be honest, I haven't come across the Blue Box releases, just the clear plastic window ones, and they always have the feel of Corgi Showcase or Corgi Flight models.
Looking forward to it now
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Wycoff, I read your post and couldn't agree more. I won't pay $200plus for a plastic model. I would pay, oh...120 or so. But you're absolutely correct, it was always presented as a die-cast model, I mean a little plastic I can understand but this was bait and switch. And if it's plastic what's up with those huge section join gaps? Boy am I glad I didn't pre-order this!!!

Blighty is slang for Britain.

In WW1 on the Western Front, when Australian Soldiers were allowed leave in Britain, it was known as "Blighty Leave".

If you spent a night with a lady on "Blighty Leave" it was known as "kicking a goal".
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OK PBR, You've got me, I've just pre-ordered the Anson
I have the breaking strain of a kit kat
To be honest, I haven't come across the Blue Box releases, just the clear plastic window ones, and they always have the feel of Corgi Showcase or Corgi Flight models.
Looking forward to it now



That was not my intention...but good for you.
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Well, i like my Vulcan! I'd got it last week. Its a beauty and a biest!!! :-)

I think, Corgi made a good job with that... ok, not full of metal, but in 1:72...
A full metal 1:72 Vulcan would be too heavy and a bit more expensive. I expected that a big part of the wings will not be in diecast when i ordered this 1 1/2 years ago...

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I really have a disliking for merchants who crap all over the products they sell. If they feel that strongly, they should cancel the orders or keep their mouths shut. It's a bit like a disdaining of the customers for buying this product...anyone who sells anything has to be behind the product or don't offer it. Let the customers decide if they like it without adding your opinion. (Not referring to the original poster of this article.)
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Ha, if the Vulcan's a toy then so is everything else on my shelf going by the definition of the word. I really don't get the plastic/metal argument. I certainly wouldn't want it any heavier.
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I really have a disliking for merchants who crap all over the products they sell. If they feel that strongly, they should cancel the orders or keep their mouths shut. It's a bit like a disdaining of the customers for buying this product...anyone who sells anything has to be behind the product or don't offer it. Let the customers decide if they like it without adding your opinion. (Not referring to the original poster of this article.)
The review was written for members of another forum... who know & respect his opinions on diecast models so no - your opinion is way off the mark. 'Reg' is a decent bloke who tells it like it is, runs a fantastic online business & is a genuine aviation / model nutter like the rest of us.

That's why he's a member of our Pub forum, he participates well & does Corgi reviews for us amongst others... without the sugar coating
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I just received my Corgi Vulcan, so I am going to weigh in here, too. (Why not, right?!) First, some background on my experience with Corgi. I am fortunate to own many Corgi models and have been collecting them since I was a kid. (I won't go into how long ago that was. Suffice it to say I saw "Star Wars" when it first came out.)

I have generally been impressed with Corgi's models. They have come a long way in quality and detail over the decades. Yes, they sometimes have large gaps and deep panel lines, but they generally make good representations of the real thing. Does Hobby Master beat them in the detail department sometimes? Absolutely. But HM doesn't tackle every subject and, as we all know, they have quality control issues, too.

As for this Vulcan, I can sympathize with the arguments on both sides. I, too, feel let down by Corgi, not because of the amount of detail on this model--I think it's actually quite good--but because I was expecting a "diecast metal model with some plastic parts," not a plastic model with some diecast metal parts. And I suspect "Reg" is right in that any number of manufacturers could have produced this model. I can't imagine the "engineering challenges" were significantly greater for this than they were for, say, Corgi's fine mostly-diecast Lancaster, Liberator, and B-17. And I'd love to hear a good explanation as to why the colors are off. (Though, honestly, I may not have noticed had it not been pointed out.)

All that said, it still seems to be the best non-kit scale representation of a Vulcan out there. Hopefully now that Corgi has made this investment, they will (1) get the colors right next time and (2) drop the price on future Vulcan releases. As a big fan of the Vulcan ever since I saw one at an air show back in the 1980s, this would make me a happier camper. If not, this will likely be my first and last 1/72 Corgi Vulcan.

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Old 09-29-2014, 09:05 PM   #93
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The review was written for members of another forum... who know & respect his opinions on diecast models so no - your opinion is way off the mark. 'Reg' is a decent bloke who tells it like it is, runs a fantastic online business & is a genuine aviation / model nutter like the rest of us.

That's why he's a member of our Pub forum, he participates well & does Corgi reviews for us amongst others... without the sugar coating
I understand and apologize. But...if a salesman sold you a car that has been highly anticipated, and you got it home and rang the salesman about how pleased you were, and the salesman told you, "Yeah, well, it's actually a piece of crap that I wouldn't touch with a stick, but sure, you go ahead and enjoy it", wouldn't that make you angry? If he actually felt badly about the product, would he still be anxious to sell it to you? Or would he hold back, tell you about the faults, then let you decide if you still want it? (I know that's not his job.) There's where I'm going with that. I don't want to diss the man, I'm sure he's a great guy, but this bad review from a man who sells these models could make those who buy it feel like chumps. Personally, I like the model despite its flaws and plastic...Herpa is selling plastic airplanes, has been for years, and they are seriously prized by collectors. Even with the yellowing plastic.
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I think theres to many negative comments here, the model is a beast, the detail is fantastic, yes its plasticy but still think its worth the money, limited addition aswell, it will be a long long time before you see that 100% diecast
well if I was selling them on ebay Now in stock Corgi 1:72 RAF Avro Vulcan Bomber "Vulcan to the Sky" XH558 | eBay then i think I'd be praising it but otherwise many think it's overpriced, wrong color and theres 4000 of them.
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I am not a huge collector of Corgi although I have a few models by them. I collect them because I wanted a good model of what was made and Corgi fit that bill. My 1:72 collection is mainly made up of HM models because HM does a relatively good job and makes the models I want. But if something better came out, you can bet I would be looking to get the best of the best for my collection. That being said...

I think this is a nice model. A replica this large with this quality is a very nice piece. If I collected British aircraft, I would definitely want one in my collection, just as much as I would love to have a 1:72 scale of a B-1 or B-2 being here in the US. There are no glaring mistakes and it is a pretty decent model. I would love a good scale replica like that in my 1:72 collection. As much as there are some points to complain about, it is a good representation of the Vulcan and that is something to be very happy about for many collectors.
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I understand and apologize. But...if a salesman sold you a car that has been highly anticipated, and you got it home and rang the salesman about how pleased you were, and the salesman told you, "Yeah, well, it's actually a piece of crap that I wouldn't touch with a stick, but sure, you go ahead and enjoy it", wouldn't that make you angry? If he actually felt badly about the product, would he still be anxious to sell it to you? Or would he hold back, tell you about the faults, then let you decide if you still want it? (I know that's not his job.) There's where I'm going with that. I don't want to diss the man, I'm sure he's a great guy, but this bad review from a man who sells these models could make those who buy it feel like chumps. Personally, I like the model despite its flaws and plastic...Herpa is selling plastic airplanes, has been for years, and they are seriously prized by collectors. Even with the yellowing plastic.


Its funny because over at DAF if he said it was a good model he would have been abused relentlessly.....and I mean abused relentlessly.

I can assure you Steve, trade in Britain is not dependent on the forumites of various forums to go out and make money for them off this model. And his review is actually even handed. Gotta remember Corgi is not Herpa and what Corgi told trade and the collector and what the Vulcan actually is are two different things.
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The review was written for members of another forum... who know & respect his opinions on diecast models so no - your opinion is way off the mark. 'Reg' is a decent bloke who tells it like it is, runs a fantastic online business & is a genuine aviation / model nutter like the rest of us.

That's why he's a member of our Pub forum, he participates well & does Corgi reviews for us amongst others... without the sugar coating

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In WW1 on the Western Front, when Australian Soldiers were allowed leave in Britain, it was known as "Blighty Leave".

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Whether it is too late....time will tell. Should have a better idea, early this week.
Apparently not.

Getting a bit with the silence. A couple of lads are asking on their facebook page...silence so far.

Mmm, one wonders just how important the Vulcan is??
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