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Old 06-29-2014, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default Oxford Westland Lysander RCAF Target Tug (AC050)

As displayed at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum at the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport in Hamilton, Ontario.



I'm not sure how this one snuck under the radar for me. I did a search of the forums and couldn't find it in here. This is the only picture I've been able to find of the model - no side profiles.

Here are a few photos of the actual aircraft though:







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Old 06-30-2014, 05:53 AM   #2
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The cheapie lines do supply some of the planes you guys want, but it sometimes takes a bit of effort to mod them into a desirable configuration. This 1:72nd scale Arado 234 is a case in point. They did the four engined job but I knocked the engines off and replaced them with two from a kit with this result:
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Sorry, guys, I posted my reply, above, in the wrong thread. I meant it to go in the one about new 1:72nd scale models.
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Ooooh, that looks very nice! How is the Oxford Lysander?
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I haven't actually seen an Oxford Lysander yet. Typically, the Oxford stuff is pretty basic (fixed landing gear, no options for open or closed canopy, etc), but they do offer some cool planes that nobody else is doing. I'm looking forward to their Anson as well.
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I haven't actually seen an Oxford Lysander yet. Typically, the Oxford stuff is pretty basic (fixed landing gear, no options for open or closed canopy, etc), but they do offer some cool planes that nobody else is doing. I'm looking forward to their Anson as well.
Good thing the Lysander itself has fixed landing gear. :-)
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Good thing the Lysander itself has fixed landing gear. :-)
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Now showing in stock at some retailers.

Photo is from Jumblies.

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Interesting release, look forward to seeing more Oxford Lysanders in the future
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Looks pretty good! I think the colours may be a touch muted, but that's a bit picky and it looks like they've got all the main details right. Nice looking model!
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Upon closer inspection, the real one doesn't have the antenna on top of the canopy or on the engine cowling (both present on the model), but it does have one on the right wing (missing on the model). I can live with those details though. Certainly not a deal breaker by any means.
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Is the antenna fit on the flying Lysander related to modern avionics maybe? Either way, this is a colourful addition to the Canadian collection--- thanks Oxford!

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Reg has published his photos of this release over at the Pub.

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Oxford Aviation 1:72 AC050 Westland Lysander Target Tug - CWHM Canada in OXFORD Forum
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Looks like the shade of yellow is far too bright and there's an unfortunate fuzziness to the edges of the stripes. I'm sure I'll pick one up, but I hoped it would be a little nicer.
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From the CWH website.

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I will call it Mini-Me".

Museum Lysander pilot Rick Rickards shows off his latest purchase from the Gift Shop - a 1/72 scale Oxford diecast of our Lysander 2363.

Info/purchase online: Westland Lysander, CWHM #2363, Diecast Model | Canadian Warplane Museum online Gift Shop






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Love it! Must be fun for those guys to recollect all the planes they've collected. 😉
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Picked this one up at Hobby Co in Sydney for $35 Australian.

Not great quality, of note is the particularly poor fitting canopy. However, if you remove the canopy a couple of Hobby Master Pilot figures can be used (rear seat gunner needs both legs amputated however). Propeller is fixed and a display stand is included.


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Thanks Dan.

I rather like it, although the overspray does detract from the overall look of the model. But for the price, ya get what ya pays for.
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I saw this at the Hamilton Airshow, a week or so back, and was tempted to go and find this one in the Gift Shop, but time was against me. Now I'm sort of glad I didn't go looking after looking at Dan's shots. I should be happy with my 2 Corgi gems. Those ARE really first rate examples!

That said, the Anson still tempts . . .
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I'll add it because it's cheap and it's the only Canadian Lysander out there, but it could have been a lot better. Ah well.
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I'll add it because it's cheap and it's the only Canadian Lysander out there, but it could have been a lot better. Ah well.
Looks decent enough on the Canadian WWII shelf.

The Corgi Lysander would certainly be better - but no RCAF version available.

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Is that a City of Vancouver P-40??
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Is that a City of Vancouver P-40??
I too would be interested in the answer. I show no Canadian P-40 in diecast being available.
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Is that a City of Vancouver P-40??
Plastic gap filler picked up from a modeller that was selling his collection.

No.111(F) Squadron was originally based at Pat Bay (Victoria) and later sent to the Aleutians in Alaska to counter the Japanese occupation.

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Plastic gap filler picked up from a modeller that was selling his collection.
Thanks Dan. Thought my research had failed me.

But now I have some reading to do on the RCAF in Alaska.
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Yes, some excellent reading here.

No. 111 (f) Squadron, RCAF - Home

Interesting is the fact that Squadron Leader Ken Boomer shot down a Rufe (float equipped Zero) during a raid on Kiska on September 25, 1942. This was the only victory by a Canadian Home Defence Squadron during the War.

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^^ There's an excellent reason to push for Boomer's P-40 to be released! ^^
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Yes, some excellent reading here.

No. 111 (f) Squadron, RCAF - Home

Interesting is the fact that Squadron Leader Ken Boomer shot down a Zuke (float equipped Zero) during a raid on Kiska on September 25, 1942. This was the only victory by a Canadian Home Defence Squadron during the War.

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I believe you mean the RUFE also known as by the designation A6M2-N

The Lysander is on my list, but I am going to wait for the SOE version.

I also so the Anson in a shop in London, however the salesperson told me his Oxford rep they were going to do a Coastal Command version of it next.

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I saw this at the Hamilton Airshow, a week or so back, and was tempted to go and find this one in the Gift Shop, but time was against me. Now I'm sort of glad I didn't go looking after looking at Dan's shots. I should be happy with my 2 Corgi gems. Those ARE really first rate examples!

The seam along the fuselage on the Corgi is just as obvious - however the shape of the seam is different which confirms that these are two separate toolings.

I actually prefer the Oxford join line rather than Corgi's obvious step crack. At least the Oxford join line appears to follow actual panel lines on the aircraft (see last photo below).

The Corgi Canopy seems just as poorly fitting as the Oxford (before I removed it and glued it back in place).

That being said, I believe the Corgi would have a superior paint finish.

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The seam along the fuselage on the Corgi is just as obvious - however the shape of the seam is different which confirms that these are two separate toolings.

I actually prefer the Oxford join line rather than Corgi's obvious step crack. At least the Oxford join line appears to follow actual panel lines on the aircraft (see last photo below).

The Corgi Canopy seems just as poorly fitting as the Oxford (before I removed it and glued it back in place).

That being said, I believe the Corgi would have a superior paint finish.

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I only have Corgi's two SOE Lysanders (AA36804 MA•B 'black' & AA36806 MA•J 'black/camo'), so given their colour schemes, those odd stepped seams are virtually invisible. I agree; Corgi's seam is very unfortunate and ham-fisted looking on lighter schemes. I will also agree that Oxford's seam is FAR more refined by comparison. Regarding Corgi's canopies, I too had to glue mine, but that was to facilitate a permanent fixed ladder MA•B. I noticed no issues with fit otherwise, or with MA•J. I'm confident this Oxford one could be sorted.

I think the thing I find visually disappointing with this Oxford Lysander is the very obvious use of plastic. It is everywhere. Sure, plastic is inevitable, but we shouldn't have to see it in anything other than the clear parts. If Oxford had just painted the model in yellow, then add the black stripes, (even though the plastic is yellow) I think they could have arrived at something less toy-looking, and perhaps more desirable. In the cold light of day though, we have to remember Oxford is positioned as a 'value' product.

Even though the cost of the Corgi Lysander is more expensive, I find much more to recommend -- especially with the SOE models. Although, I will admit, this yellow/black striped target tug scheme would challenge them as well.
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I just noticed the Canadian civil registration under the horizontal stabilizer. Interesting decision to include that and the "Canadian Warplane Heritage" museum name rather than to release it as an operational military aircraft.

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