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Old 10-19-2013, 01:44 PM   #1
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Oxford Diecast History of Flight 72AA001
Avro Anson Mk I Diecast Model
RAF No.500 Sqn, RAF Detling, England, 1940



I hadn't seen this discussed here yet and I think this is a pretty interesting plane for Oxford to produce. Plus there's always the option of a Canadian version.
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So many schemes, if they nail the mould they'll make a fortune as it's a plane many have been hankering for for a while. It's gonna have a wheel up and down option which is great, just hope they get the engine detail spot on and it doesn't look too clunky or toy like. Praying it'll be as good as their Rapide, then I'll be having a few.

Also great seeing Oxford bringing out these types, the Hornet looks good as well along with the PussMoth.
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So many schemes, if they nail the mould they'll make a fortune as it's a plane many have been hankering for for a while. It's gonna have a wheel up and down option which is great, just hope they get the engine detail spot on and it doesn't look too clunky or toy like. Praying it'll be as good as their Rapide, then I'll be having a few.

Also great seeing Oxford bringing out these types, the Hornet looks good as well along with the PussMoth.
Agreed! I think this is an excellent choice.
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It will be interesting to see some pre-prodution prototypes of this model. It is hard to judge from a line drawing. But if they do it well, they surely will have a winner on their hands. I hope that they build enough flexibility into the mold to do some of the later marks
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Nice little early war edition

Where does it say that it'll be a wheels up or down option ? I really feel that is what is holding Oxford back. I can live with the inaccuracies at those prices and their QC is not bad
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Oxford's Avro Anson Mk.1 RAF No.500 Squadron Coastal Command RAF Detling
Model is based on this RAF Coastal Command Anson Mk.I, which was involved in the attack by nine Bf 109’s, off the French coast. Flown by P.O Phillip Peters, from No.500 squadron at Detling, he and his crew claimed the two destroyed and one damaged enemy Me 109’s, in a 10 minute engagement, having already ordered the other two Ansons to return to base.
Nice write up on the history of this model. 'Deadly Avro Anson'
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The tail's a bit clunky, but on the whole, that's not bad for an Oxford model. It doesn't offend me at all.
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I've been waiting for this for awhile now but does it look like Oxford used two different shades of brown ?
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I can't tell, but with all that glass, is there any decent interior detail? I find it surprising that with over 11,000 Ansons produced, there wasn't anyone making it before now. Maybe because it wasn't a glamorous war machine, mostly used as a trainer and transport.
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I can't tell, but with all that glass, is there any decent interior detail? I find it surprising that with over 11,000 Ansons produced, there wasn't anyone making it before now. Maybe because it wasn't a glamorous war machine, mostly used as a trainer and transport.
I agree....I put this in the same class as the Hudson and early MK Boston/Havoc . This class being, large numbers utilised in the war...multiple users - specifically the US and Commonwealth (the Anson was utilised in the USAAF), multiple theatres with multiple schemes......that have yet to be converted to Diecast.

The Anson is the first of the three.

The landing gear from front maybe a tad thick (I think from the side they are fine) and the balance thingy on the tail is a bit too.

Other than that...its a beaut little tooling. In my view its the tooling of the year for 2014 (the Vulcan may have got it except they cocked it up rather badly). I know its an odd choice maybe (its a subjective view after all)...but I love WW2 twins. Certainly the Anson will be prominent in my Hanger with two out of the first three announced a certainty.

I hope it goes great guns....because if it does Oxford will continue to churn little beauties like the Rapide, Hornet and Anson.

Excellent pictures Triumph.....as is the usual for you mate.
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Now I'm waiting for an Oxford "British Commonwealth Air Training Plan" RCAF Anson and an appropriate Harvard to match from Hobby Master:

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Now I'm waiting for an Oxford "British Commonwealth Air Training Plan" RCAF Anson and an appropriate Harvard to match from Hobby Master:

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I'd love a Yellow trainer.

Just love the tooling.
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as i have a slight personal connection with this particular aircraft, I will certainly add this to my collection before too long. Howeve, as all oxford models eventually dump, I am in no rush. Probaly try to dremel that rudder balance / whatever it is down a bit and if that doesn't work rebuild it with wire and styrene.

/ who am i kidding where will i find the time it will sit in its box.

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Seems to me there's plenty options for Ansons to make. Also the Dutch air force flew them, mostly without the turrets, but with glass and closed nose, in RAF camo and in training yellow. It won't be that popular over here, but there's at least 5 different ones to make, just to represent the Dutch fleet, never mind all the Canadians, RAF and plenty other countries.
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It's interesting that the museum decided to go with Pete Peters' V MK markings, but used the wrong roundels and a different registration.
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as i have a slight personal connection with this particular aircraft, I will certainly add this to my collection before too long. Howeve, as all oxford models eventually dump, I am in no rush. Probaly try to dremel that rudder balance / whatever it is down a bit and if that doesn't work rebuild it with wire and styrene.

/ who am i kidding where will i find the time it will sit in its box.

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More boorish drivel from this [email protected], what utter bollocks
Oxford have re-released many of their blue box Dragons due to demand & I understand the Arado floatplane has now had three production runs.

Try working with facts instead of BS you sanctimonious plonker
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I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Anson, but I must say that the "shortcut" of molding the balance as part of the tail, which is an obvious attempt to cut costs, was a poor decision. Some may not care but I'm going to file down this monstrosity so it resembles the real thing or, failing that, get rid of it and try to fashion a new part. Hopefully Oxford will learn from this experience when making its next tooling decision.
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Clearly, my use of the word "dump" was deserving of such an adult response. By which I mean "thank you for reminding me to put you on my ignore list."

What I should have said is that the price most or all oxford models has decreased significantly since the initial release and they have all shown themselves readily available on the aftermarket, and I fully expect this one to be no different. I'm more than happy to pay the asking price if it comes to this, but no blue box oxford model that I know of has ever shown itself to be HTF yet so there's no particular rush. It's a pity since Oxford are some of the nicest and hardest working people in diecast, but they're not terribly cutthroat about their marketing and release schedule, which is good for the consumer.

as far as the museum anson goes, I don't know anything about the specifics of it, but I do have a bit of a familiarity with the process, politics, finances, and flamewars that have gone into scheme issues there, and it's not always pretty. particularly frustrating is when scheme and paint issues distract or even compromise an otherwise world-class conservation effort, such as on the American Air Museum static B-17.

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Clearly, my use of the word "dump" was deserving of such an adult response. By which I mean "thank you for reminding me to put you on my ignore list."
I see "Metal Wings" is still making friends here.

Eventually that ignore list of yours will be so long you'll only be able to read your own posts here.

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I see "Metal Wings" is still making friends here.

Eventually that ignore list of yours will be so long you'll only be able to read your own posts here.

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Fortunate son/metal wings or whoever you want to be, as long as you keep posting for you, and as long as you keep posting as if you are The Expert without actually being one, you'll keep on getting responses like that.

It can't be too hard to change your tone of voice and style of writing? Even if you think differently we don't have to know it.
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Fortunate son/metal wings or whoever you want to be, as long as you keep posting for you, and as long as you keep posting as if you are The Expert without actually being one, you'll keep on getting responses like that.

It can't be too hard to change your tone of voice and style of writing? Even if you think differently we don't have to know it.


Good Luck. I and others have been suggesting that for years.

It was a great thread too.

Great release......did I say this is my tooling of 2014??

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It consists of two people. But you know, thanks for stirring the pot, captain.
I feel robbed Mental One, I thought I was already on your ignore list

On a more 'adult note' dollar for dollar the Oxford line represent some of the best value diecast models ever, right alongside the highly regarded (& much missed) Skymax.
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On a more 'adult note' dollar for dollar the Oxford line represent some of the best value diecast models ever, right alongside the highly regarded (& much missed) Skymax.
I reckon thats a pretty fair statement.

Hopefully Skymax is just dormant...and not dead.
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You guys are really funny, I used to say Oxford weren't too bad and everyone was bagging them out, someone sez the word "dump", it gets taken out of context and Oxford is now heralded as being awesome

Make up your mind peoples

I see what the problem is here..... Not enough diecast is being released and the natives are getting restless (puts hand up)

And in the case of this model, too bl00dy long to release, wasn't this meant to be a September release ? At least according to the mule, at this pace Hobbyco will probably have it in stock earlier
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You guys are really funny, I used to say Oxford weren't too bad and everyone was bagging them out, someone sez the word "dump", it gets taken out of context and Oxford is now heralded as being awesome

Make up your mind peoples

I see what the problem is here..... Not enough diecast is being released and the natives are getting restless (puts hand up)

And in the case of this model, too bl00dy long to release, wasn't this meant to be a September release ? At least according to the mule, at this pace Hobbyco will probably have it in stock earlier
Not taken out of context at all mate, the whack-job that made that comment has form so really a case of taking him to task as he really is the Neville Bartosh of posters

Yep - it was pretty overdue but worth the wait I reckon. I'll pass on this first release and am presently lobbying for the worlds only flying Mk.1 which resides in NZ. Bill Reid has done a truly magnificent job on this restoration & having seen her at a couple of airshows this is the one I want in my fleet




Photo by Gavin Conroy.

The first RAF Combat loss of WWII (as being actually shot down in air-to-air dogfighting) was 206 Squadron Anson I, K6183,VX-B that attacked a German He.115 (M2+FH of 1./KuFlGr 106) off the Friesian Islands and was shot down by return fire. Of the four crew, three were killed, and one was taken as a POW.

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P/O 31687 L.H. Edwards RAF PoW No.16 (1st WWII British officer POW)
Sgt 566050 Alexander Oliver Heslop 23 RAF (9 Sqn.) killed.
AC1 552231 Geoffrey Sheffield 18 RAF killed.
LAC 524808 John Quilter 22 RAF killed.

Pilot Officer Edwards (a New Zealander) was the first RAF Officer to be taken POW in WWII. Ironically, it was the floatplane-equipped Heinkel He115 that shot him down that also came to his rescue, landing on the sea to retrieve him from the waves!
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Hope what your lobbying for is made, I'd get it, especially if they fix the balance and antenna

May pass on this one and wait, even if I miss out on it from the mule, I'm sure they'll "dump" at Hobbyco

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Gawd...when was the last time something dumped at Hobbyco?????
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Gawd...when was the last time something dumped at Hobbyco?????
I believe never lol they won't even give a discount for displayed models which have clearly seen a few dents and scratches over the years
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I see "Metal Wings" is still making friends here.

Eventually that ignore list of yours will be so long you'll only be able to read your own posts here.

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Not taken out of context at all mate, the whack-job that made that comment has form so really a case of taking him to task as he really is the Neville Bartosh of posters
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Bein' a (bleedin') "Pom" here, I'm not conversant with Neville Bartosh !

But I "do" know some guy named 'Bartosh' who lugs a large 4 x engined trash-hauler around...
(for the USAF )

Pretty jealous you've seen that Kiwi beaut' at the airshows....
(lucky git)

I saw one (flying) at RAF Marham this August (2014), a "surprise visitor"

More's the pity it wuz painted in bloody 'Two-Tone-Blue' civvie colours (Yuk)

On the plus side tho', at least I "did" get to see & hear an Anson flying....

(Saw my first flying Avro Anson back in 1981)

That picture you posted is a scorcher BTW !


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I've been waiting for this for awhile now but does it look like Oxford used two different shades of brown ?
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I've bought TWO of this little model
~ One 'perfect', the other has a "wonky-eye" A.1 roundel
(sadly)

HOWEVER = BOTH have an excellent paint finish & the "brown" (Re: "Dk.Earth") is just fine.

Uniform in both shade AND application, the Oxford spray-job is fine & compares very well with the hundreds of 'other' RAF aircraft that I have in my collection (Corgi, Hobbymaster, Gemini, etc)

Not sure what YOU meant by "two different shades of brown ?"

I assume that refers to what you've seen in pictures....
(rather than having the model in front of you ?)
Changes in light Re; Digital photography being misleading perhaps ?



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Wouldn't that then suggest to you that it's (perhaps) NOT the Peter's 'MK-V' you describe ?

The "different registration" would suggest that alone.

I've been studying military a/c myself since the very late 1960's (old git, yeah, I know)

However, even with my limited-knowledge I've seen instances where the same 'squadron-codes" have been used by no-less than 5-6 different a/c (spread over time) with ONE same squadron, due to losses, attrition, etc.


Those roundels you see there (on the Ex-'Skyfame-museum Anson') denote 1938-1939

(Type 'B' roundels, as WE now refer to them 'post-war' adorned the likes of Fairy Hendons at that time)

I'm NOT claiming to be an expert on Pilot Officer Phillip Peters 'MK-V' that fought the 109's on 1st June 1940.


But I've forgotten enough to KNOW that the markings shown on the Oxford Anson ARE 100% period correct....
(YES, including the 'unusual' old Type.A upper-wing roundels that adorn the model)

If you're in ANY doubt, just check-out some Armstrong Whitworth Whitleys of THAT same period.
(or Mk.I Blenheims, Vickers Wellingtons & Fairey Hendons before that)

I also noticed that no-one picked-up on the different cowlings, too....

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Posted below is the (sickly) coloured Anson I photographed in August '14 as it wuz landing
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I've bought TWO of this little model
~ One 'perfect', the other has a "wonky-eye" A.1 roundel
(sadly)

HOWEVER = BOTH have an excellent paint finish & the "brown" (Re: "Dk.Earth") is just fine.

Uniform in both shade AND application, the Oxford spray-job is fine & compares very well with the hundreds of 'other' RAF aircraft that I have in my collection (Corgi, Hobbymaster, Gemini, etc)

Not sure what YOU meant by "two different shades of brown ?"

I assume that refers to what you've seen in pictures....
(rather than having the model in front of you ?)
Changes in light Re; Digital photography being misleading perhaps ?
Yeah I'm referring to the photos posted here, it's still not in stock anyway I purchase models from

This is what I mean but by the sounds of it, it's just the lighting. Really happy about that because now I'll get one

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Yeah I'm referring to the photos posted here, it's still not in stock anyway I purchase models from

This is what I mean, but by the sounds of it, it's just the lighting.

Really happy about that because now I'll get one
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Hi Uk-F,

Yeah, honestly mate, you WON'T be disappointed with the paint-job (it's sweet)

I just hope you DON'T get the "wonky-eye" A.1 fuselage roundel that occured on ONE of mine.

To explain....

Of the TWO = One is 100% perfect ~ The other is 'fine' except for the Port-side fuselage.

Don't get me wrong, I "could" fix it with a decal ~ (I have dozens of RAF sheets)

"If" you ARE lucky enough to "see before you buy", then just check BOTH fuselage roundels.

Mine were bought blind, on the strength of the pictures found HERE....

http://tmwcf.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?t=1616

That fella's pix were certainly enough to convince me to buy the model....

But as I bought my ('brace'/pair) from Ebay UK, they were 'unseen' in the post from Warehouse.

Good luck with yours ~ I honestly think you'll be impressed with the li'l model
(rudder-horn-balance aside !)
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Might pick it up from my local hobby shop, once they get around to stocking it
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Pilot Officer Edwards (a New Zealander) was the first RAF Officer to be taken POW in WWII. Ironically, it was the floatplane-equipped Heinkel He115 that shot him down that also came to his rescue, landing on the sea to retrieve him from the waves!
Good theme. Let's hope Oxford's next twin-engine shall be the He115. A wonderful aircraft well liked by its crews. Gentlemen pilots obviously, too...

Oxford does, after all, have the Arado 196 in their inventory.

The He115's made some pretty daring rescues. Once the crew of of a torpedo-carrying one was rescued by another He115 after having been shot down by ships in a Murmansk convoy in the Polar Sea - only some hundred meters from the convoy, escorts and all.

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