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Old 01-19-2013, 06:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Folks!
As you will have gathered from the title I need a little advice, I'm relatively new to collecting die-cast aircraft (currently the owner of 4) and really I'm looking for suggestions from you chaps who have a little more knowledge.

Bein a Brit/Limey/Pommy (I’ll leave that up to you guys) I'm kind of partial to RAF/RN birds but I'm really open to any suggestions you might have. I currently have the Hobby Master Desert Storm F/A-18, Century Wings ‘Ichiban’ and Corgis tragically promising TSR.2 (XR-219) with its incredibly successful forerunner, the EE Canberra (1956 Suez Crisis), a perfect pairing in my eyes

I've been on the wall about corgi’s buccaneer for a while now, couple of issues. The models seem a little ‘gappy’ compared to for instance my HM F/A-18 and if I did buy one would I go with the HMS Victorious model or the gulf war bucc. I'm not really a fan of the glossy paint jobs and it seems the HMS Victorious model has exactly that, but I would ideally like a RN bucc... Two words: Please, Help!

If I did go with the RN bucc I’d quite fancy a spey powered phantom to keep it company, love the paint job on the Gemini one but among other things the lack of crew and the fact that (as far as I have been able to see) the canopy doesn't seem to be quite capable of closing properly have again had me on the wall. HM’s phantoms look bloody brilliant! Do you guys think they will ever produce a RN spey powered phantom? Obviously the intakes would have to change along with the exhaust and nose; I'm not exactly sure what else would be required to make it accurate but the above seem to be do-able looking at the (few) gaps in HM’s models.

Anyway thanks in advance chaps please fire away with all your suggestions (favourite models) and sorry it’s a bit of a long post, I'll look forward to hearing from you!

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the best way i think is to take time and read some threads that might interest you....there are dozens or hundreds of threads here that Im sure will satisfy your needs on what particular model you like accompanied with pictures, suggestions and ideas of fellow collectors, A-Holt.....it cant surely be better.....cheers...
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Welcome to the forum. In regards to your question about the RN Phantom, it's unlikely that HM will produce a version in the foreseeable future, considering the mould revision. The GJ version is the best available, and it's not bad at all. The Corgi Buccs are also all you're going to see from any manufacturers anytime soon. I have the light blue Lossiemouth version and I'm pleased with it despite the little imperfections typical of Corgi. I also have a Sea Vixen from Witty that I'm impressed with, even with its issues (minor, IMO)...and once again, where else will you find one in 1/72? I enjoy collecting mostly US, but I have a number of British aircraft: The Bucc and Vixen, a Hunter, a Meteor, a Vampyre, a Harrier, a Canberra with the fighter cockpit, a Jaguar and a Lightning. I highly recommend the Corgi EE Lightning, very nice! Bit fiddly with the landing gear, though. I also have a few helies...a Lynx, an HC2 Chinook and a Wessex. There's quite a list of British aircraft available from several sources, so happy collecting.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the quick responses gents, just having a look at the various threads it appears you both speak words of wisdom

The problem now created is with each thread I look at I add another one or two models to the wish list... Definitely got a lot of thinking to do about the next purchase, cheers guys.
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Welcome A-Holt.

Sorry I won't be able to help you much with the RAF jets. I only have a HM Phantom and a Harrier. Gemini definitely has some nice ones. Corgi is going to be your best source for a variety of models, but like you said, they can be gappy and vary in quality.

HM does have some RAF F4s with the J79.

Hobby Master Exclusive 1/72 HA1920 McDonnnell-Douglas F-4J(UK) Phantom II RAF 74 Squadron "Tiger Meet' 1988

I have this one: Hobby Master Exclusive 1/72 HA1917 - F-4J UK Phantom II 74 Squadron, RAF 1990 ZE354

Some with Brit history:

Hobby Master 1/72 Air Power Series Jet Power HA1954 - McDonnell Douglas RF- 4C 64-1077, 10th TRW, RAF Alconbury, 1967

Hobby Master 1/72 Air Power Series (Jet Powered) HA1962 - McDonnell Douglas F-4B VMFA-531, USS Forrestal cross operating on HMS Ark Royal

My UK birds are mostly WW2 era, and are great, especially the Corgi Short Stirling.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Scott thanks for the suggestions, I'm quite liking the Forrestal/Ark Royal Phantom. Always loved the Phantom anyway, first jet I ever saw on reheat.

HMS Ark Royal (R09) USN Phantom on Deck, Malta Grand Harbour 1973 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Seems to support the 'Urban legend' what with the US markings having been covered.

The WW2 era corgi aircraft do seem very appealing, I see what you mean about the Short Sterling, absolute beauty! A lot of fond memories from my childhood of speaking to an uncle who served on Lancs and the Beaufighter all the way through the war so I would probably be more inclined towards a Lanc for those reasons, S for Sugar looks very attractive, not sure about the black bomb load though (an earlier release I assume?), the Cheshire Lanc looks very good.

If there are any particular USAAF/USN etc moulds you'd particularly recommend I'd be all ears too, the interest/passion is in aircraft if they're British it's just an added bonus
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If there are any particular USAAF/USN etc moulds you'd particularly recommend I'd be all ears too, the interest/passion is in aircraft if they're British it's just an added bonus
While it is not RAF or Fleet Air Arm, perhaps you can also check out USAFE aircraft that were based at RAF stations like Alconbury, Upper Heyford, Lakenheath, etc. Hobby Master has an A-10 that was based at Bent.waters and a F-111 from Upper Heyford. Also a F-102 from RAF Wethersfield.

As for British aircraft, check out Hobby Master's Harriers. They just recently released a Sea Harrier FA.2. Hobby Master also has a nice Beaufighter.

Check out all Hobby Master models at hobbymastercollector.com

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If there are any particular USAAF/USN etc moulds you'd particularly recommend I'd be all ears too, the interest/passion is in aircraft if they're British it's just an added bonus
I'd recommend one of each of the CW molds. They are all great... A-6 especially, A-7, F-8, F-14. Just be aware that they have some in 1:144 scale as well.

This website is having a 35% off sale of all in-stock items (promo code: 2013WINTER35)

Here is an awesome deal: http://www.collectablejets.com/Century%20Wings/CW601482

Some of my favorites that are still available are:

Hobby Master HA3706 - F-101 Voodoo Diecast Model, USAF 148th FG MN ANG, #58-0275: The Flying Mule

Hobby Master HA3109 - F-102 Delta Dagger Diecast Model, USAF 57th FIS, NAS Keflavik, Iceland, 1963: The Flying Mule

Hobby Master HA3010 - F-111 Aardvark Diecast Model, USAF 20th TFW, #68-0020 "The Chief": The Flying Mule

Hobby Master HA1931 - F-4 Phantom II Diecast Model, #68-0339 "Chico the Gunfighter": The Flying Mule

Corgi AA32619 - Lancaster Diecast Model, RAF No.9 Sqn, "Johnny Walker": The Flying Mule

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EA-18G Growler - ?VAQ?-141? 1:72 Witty Wings WTY-72029-1 - Aiken's Airplanes Store

A-10A Thunderbolt II Chopper Popper, 23rd TFW, Operation Desert Storm, 1991 1:72 Hobby Master HM-HA1312 - Aiken's Airplanes Store

A-1H Skyraider 56th Special Operations Wing 1:72 Hobby Master HM-HA2904 - Aiken's Airplanes Store

F-100D Super Sabre 188th Tactical Fighter Group, Arkansas Air National Guard 1:72 Hobby Master HM-HA2111 - Aiken's Airplanes Store

To see where all my money went: http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ollection.html

Great threads (just a couple to start with):

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...t-collect.html

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ur-models.html


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I'm not much of a jet-head when it comes to RAF, more concentrated on ww2 birds, but I do collect one each of the camo scheme RAF jets. The Corgi RAF Bucc is a cracking little plane and whilst there are some joint lines its still a brilliant casting considering its around 15 years old now. I'm no rivet counter and can't swear to how uber accurate the ordinance is, but others on the DAF forum are complimentary about it.

You won't regret picking up a Corgi Bucc, still relatively cheap (£30ish) if you are patient on eBay, especially the gulf war version.
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Hobby Master also has a nice Beaufighter.
Looks very nice indeed, I think HA2308 the Malta bird would go well with Corgi's AA38404 based in Greece, two well made representatives of an important theatre of the war. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Absolutely stunning! Very inspiring collection, love your display cabinet(s) and combination of books and models.

Johnny Walker is looking very tempting! I think the wish list at present is as follows: HA2308 - Malta Beau, AA38404 - Paramythia Blenheim, AA32801 - The 'Grim Reaper' Mosquito and then as a nice little trio display, Corgi's new Johnny Walker with their Ark Royal/Bismark Stringbag and HM's sinking Yamato Avenger.

Probably get a Gulf War Bucc and HM's Ark Royal/Forrestal Phantom too.

Only problem now is tracking the Ark royal Swordfish down and the cost when and if I do...

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You won't regret picking up a Corgi Bucc, still relatively cheap (£30ish) if you are patient on eBay, especially the gulf war version.
Think you've sold me on the gulf war bucc and so off to evilbay I must go
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The Ark Royal Stringbag pops up all the time on eBay and I honestly wouldn't pay over £40 for it. The way Corgi have done the rigging is an absolute joy to behold on such a smallish model. As with all their bi-planes (barring the Pattle Gladiator) they've nailed them spot on. The new HMS Courageous Swordfish are finally due middle of Feb after nearly a 2 year wait. They look superb!

The Greek Blenheim is lovely and again you should be able to pick it up for about £30 from retailers still. The HM Malta Beaufighter has issues from what I remember, but I have it and it looks fab on display.

Also if you're thinking of desert aircraft the new Gemini Aces Spitfire is a stunner, though watch the quality control when buying as GA planes are notoriously hit and miss.

Happy hunting, its one of the fun bits of the hobby
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Cheers Grizz I meant to ask for a price guide for the Swordfish, £40 sounds pretty reasonable to me for what appears to be such an attractive model. I hadn't clocked onto the HMS Courageous release, quite interested in the floatplane version too but it'll be a battle between one from HMS Courageous or HMS Malaya, always loved the Queen Elizabeth Class battleships (especially Warspite) so I'll probably go with the Malaya one.

I'll also probably go with Battle of Britain participants when the time comes for a spitfire and hurricane, I'd (ideally) like a range of aircraft which together represent every theatre of the war, of which of course, there were many.

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Absolutely, there's so many to choose from especially BoB, so if you need any further help as to what's on offer or prices then give us a shout. Luckily with the BoB theatre its the Luftwaffe birds that command huge prices rather than RAF.
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Hi gents, I just received HA1962 HMs Forrestal/Ark Royal Phantom, after reading through the various threads on here I had very high hopes and I must say I'm not in the least bit disappointed, a truly beautiful model, so thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Continuing with the hunt as it were, I've been looking at Corgi's Lightnings. I was wondering if any of you chaps know anything about the Lightning T5 being produced. "Planecrazy has been busy with a number of projects. The Lightning T5 is progressing well and "production" will commence shortly. Unfortunately due to amazing interest and demand the order book is now full for this model." - Taken from the Plane Crazy news page, I can't find anything about potential liveries or a facility to pre-order. Any advice on the topic would be much appreciated.
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A-holt, may I suggest you have a word with Chris Lem the owner of planecrazy. Chris commissioned the code 3 Lightnings.
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One word of advice for you. I am an American. Most of my purchases (95%) are done on-line from Bad Cat, Flying Mule, or Aiken's Airplanes here in the U.S., so I never see the models until I get my hands on them. The better quality kits are, of course, Hobby Master, Corgi (whose WW I birds are unequalled), Century, Gemini, Falcon and Skymax. I find that the aircraft in hand almost always look better than the posted photos of them. I have a couple of the Buccaneers you mentioned, andI was quite pleased with them, especially the sand cammouflage scheme. I have hundreds of models now, and a most understanding wife. My disappointments have been very few, and my pleasures many. Generally, if I am unhappy with a product, the company does not get a second chance. A useful tip, if your cockpit canopies look foggy, try dipping them in a good acrylic floor wax product. I did that with the new F-11 Tiger, and it went from blurry to clear as glass in a heartbeat.


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Hi Folks!
As you will have gathered from the title I need a little advice, I'm relatively new to collecting die-cast aircraft (currently the owner of 4) and really I'm looking for suggestions from you chaps who have a little more knowledge.

Bein a Brit/Limey/Pommy (I’ll leave that up to you guys) I'm kind of partial to RAF/RN birds but I'm really open to any suggestions you might have. I currently have the Hobby Master Desert Storm F/A-18, Century Wings ‘Ichiban’ and Corgis tragically promising TSR.2 (XR-219) with its incredibly successful forerunner, the EE Canberra (1956 Suez Crisis), a perfect pairing in my eyes

I've been on the wall about corgi’s buccaneer for a while now, couple of issues. The models seem a little ‘gappy’ compared to for instance my HM F/A-18 and if I did buy one would I go with the HMS Victorious model or the gulf war bucc. I'm not really a fan of the glossy paint jobs and it seems the HMS Victorious model has exactly that, but I would ideally like a RN bucc... Two words: Please, Help!

If I did go with the RN bucc I’d quite fancy a spey powered phantom to keep it company, love the paint job on the Gemini one but among other things the lack of crew and the fact that (as far as I have been able to see) the canopy doesn't seem to be quite capable of closing properly have again had me on the wall. HM’s phantoms look bloody brilliant! Do you guys think they will ever produce a RN spey powered phantom? Obviously the intakes would have to change along with the exhaust and nose; I'm not exactly sure what else would be required to make it accurate but the above seem to be do-able looking at the (few) gaps in HM’s models.

Anyway thanks in advance chaps please fire away with all your suggestions (favourite models) and sorry it’s a bit of a long post, I'll look forward to hearing from you!

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I think that there are so many models available, with so many issues and redundancies due to competing manufacturers, that the best advice I can offer is to to a real study of your own interests as to scales, eras, genres, specific battles of interest, etc. before seeking advice about which models might be bought. For example, if you find the Battle of Britain, Battle of Midway, Attack on Pearl Harbor, or the North African campaigns to be of prime WW2 interest, then those of us who care to can offer more specific and focused recommendations. The same thing goes for post WW2 warbirds. Otherwise you will find yourself pulled and tugged in many directions, which may lead you to make hasty buying decisions that are regretted later.

When I got back into the warbird collecting business about 17-18 years ago, I bought a number of books and studied them as well as my reactions to what they were telling me. Later, I found the Internet and forums like this, plus others, to be very informative, as well as the websites of online vendors like The Flying Mule, which published many pictures of the models as well as descriptions of the planes from a historical perspective.

Just trying to be helpful. Good luck.
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I can only advise you to narrow down your collection to certain types, period or air force when you start collecting, especially if you're not on an unlimited budget.

I myself started collecting Dutch airforce diecast in 1/72 and 1/48 (HM and Corgi), USAFE (primarily jets I have seen in active service myself), HM F-104s, and some sideward collections, one of every type Century Series Fighters, F-14s of units that I have seen operational, and the Century Wings jets of the movie Final Countdown (in other words their 1970s AJ coded jets).

I am mainly collecting aircraft that I have actually seen flying, but only when they are of a decent quality. I've had one or two Corgi Hunters (single seat) that I've sold again because I didn't like the wide gaps between upper and lower fuselages.

I do like the Lakenheath F-111Fs by HM, but I will never buy a Witty LN coded Strike Eagle because I think it looks horrible.

I guess my guide line is something like "how would it look when I would build it as a plastic kit?" If it looks same (meaning crappy) I wouldn't buy it as die cast. If it looks better, I will get it.

Some collectors have a "just in case" reasoning in buying the lesser quality models, just in case no other brand will make a better rendering. For me, if I don't like the looks first hand, I won't buy it.
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