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Old 01-24-2012, 11:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I really need your detailed opinions on this one. I've been sitting on the fence on this question for quite sometime and have looked over varying arguments for both sides. But the question remains which Mustangs are best when it comes to diecast 1/72 scale.

I heard that Corgi Mustangs have an issue with the front fuselage being shaped incorrectly. I honestly do not see that problem from the pictures i've compared their models with to the real thing. As well I heard they lacked detail when compared to the Dragon models.

When it comes to the Dragon models, while the sculpts are amazing (from what i've heard) with details up the whazoo....including bolts and rivet details on the body, the fact remains that Dragon P-51s are not perfect. According to some owners they are also not really durable, with reports of fogged up canopies, wings and wing flaps falling off. Plus from what i've observed, the Dragon P-51s dont seem as shiny and well polished as Corgi P-51s.

So what the deal here? I want every collector that owns one of these, either Corgi or Dragon, or perhaps both to comment here in this thread. I need to pick up either a Corgi or Dragon 1/72 scale diecast model for a dear friend of mine in a few weeks time. Honestly my patience is thining and I'm just plain confused right now.

A little help here guys? Pictures always welcome too!

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Old 01-25-2012, 12:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I do not recommend Corgi Mustangs...go for the Dragon version...you won't regret it...
Corgi Mustangs is one of their first diecast tooling which is very crude with lots of panel gaps and other problems.
They tried again by retooling and releasing the B variant but missed...again...
Dragon version is the other hand is an excellent D variant of the Mustang. Great lines, excellent details, opening detailed canopy and moving flaps and up/down landing gear...just great.
If you really want a super detailed Mustang in 1:72 scale you might want to consider AEROArt...
Gemini Aces relased the best B version of the Mustang which I highly recommend too.
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I asked the same question on the forums a few years ago.

Here is the advice I received and that I completely agree with.

P-51D - Dragon is the best.

P-51B/C - Gemini Aces is the best.

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Old 01-25-2012, 01:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The only thing holding me back from getting the Dragon P-51s is the QC issues. Foggy canopies, wings and flaps falling apart. Has anyone here heard of experienced these problems first hand with Dragon's Mustangs?
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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To my knowledge the issue with Corgi's front fuselage is that the prop spinner to the engine cowling line should be more seamless (am I making sense? it's late night)

For me, it's not so much the front fuselage but rather the rear fuselage that's more the issue with the Corgi. Compare the entire rear bottom between the Corgi and Dragon. You'll notice that the Corgi looks a bit shorter and has a more upward-like angle whereas the Dragon looks longer and straighter.

Between the 2, the Dragon model is much more accurate. The only issue I've had with Dragon P-51s is with the landing gears. They need glue to stay on. But then that was the same with the Corgi. The workmanship (paint app & build feel) is slightly better on the Corgi, but personally I'd have to give nod to the Dragon model (it's just so much more correct looking).
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The only thing holding me back from getting the Dragon P-51s is the QC issues. Foggy canopies, wings and flaps falling apart. Has anyone here heard of experienced these problems first hand with Dragon's Mustangs?

Not sure where you are hearing this Sachiel.

I've been following the various forums for years now and the only criticism I have ever heard concerning Dragon Mustangs are that white glue is required for the landing gear and that sometimes the flaps can become loose and won't stay up if you play with them too much.

Never heard of Dragon having an issue with Fogging canopies or falling apart wings.

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Not sure where you are hearing this Sachiel.
I was being influenced by this place.....

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Apparently the guy who posted the reviews above said he had some serious issues with the Dragon P-51s. Hence my hesitation with getting one. Well glad to say thats no longer true. Just placed an order for two Glamorous Glennis P-51s from Tigers Den. They still have some in-stock suprisingly. Can't wait....
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Agree with what most have been said, the Corgi P51D is inferior to the Dragon version, but the fiddly bits really annoy me. Atleast the Corgi is well built. I've only kept a couple of the Corgi models though, Twilight Tear and the RAF version. Got the Witty Wings Ferocious Frankie which is a cracker, but has its undercarriage fixed down.

The Corgi B/C version is pretty pants and I've not bought any. The Gemini version is a lovely model, got Princess Elizabeth, which was a lovely commission from Flying Tigers.
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Dragon is the recommendation for a P-51D. The Corgi model is mediocre and usually bought for the livery. Big Beautiful Doll is quoted as the one to buy. Aeroart is alright however be aware it is a two seater.
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The only thing holding me back from getting the Dragon P-51s is the QC issues. Foggy canopies, wings and flaps falling apart. Has anyone here heard of experienced these problems first hand with Dragon's Mustangs?
I have Dragons P-51D "The Millie G" and the only QC issue are the loose moveable flaps, but thats a common problem with moving parts on diecast-models
I have no foggy canopies and the undercarriage / landing gear is (surprisingly for a Dragon Warbird) staying well in its place without any glue

I also have a Gemini P-51B and it is a real beauty, too!

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Where can I get dragon's P-51 in the states? Seems like flyingmule doesn't have them anymore. Thanks in advance.
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Where can I get dragon's P-51 in the states? Seems like flyingmule doesn't have them anymore. Thanks in advance.
Tigers Den is the only place where you can still get these online. Aside from Ebay of course! Good luck.

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Just placed an order for two Glamorous Glennis P-51s from Tigers Den. They still have some in-stock suprisingly. Can't wait....
So how's the Glamorous Glennis? Any major problems? Seeing how rare Dragon's P-51s are today and for 39.99 a piece, I won't hesitate to get one.
Just to add on, are their landing gears interchangeable? Thanks again Sachiel

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So how's the Glamorous Glennis? Any major problems? Seeing how rare Dragon's P-51s are today and for 39.99 a piece, I won't hesitate to get one.
Just to add on, are their landing gears interchangeable? Thanks again Sachiel
Unlike Witty Wings, the landing gear is interchangable for the Dragon P-51s. I ordered two Glamourous Glennis P-51s from the website. They have yet to arrive at my home. Probably wont get to play around with them until the end of next week.
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So how's the Glamorous Glennis? Any major problems? Seeing how rare Dragon's P-51s are today and for 39.99 a piece, I won't hesitate to get one.
Just to add on, are their landing gears interchangeable? Thanks again Sachiel
The Glamorous Glennis is one great model...
Well done, excellent details, minimum plastic parts, it has moving flaps, opening canopy with detailed cockpit and interchangeable landing gear (up/down) that fit well. It aslo comes with fuel tanks that can be attached under wings...
I'm very satisfied with it. Hard to believe that these models were released in 2003...
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The flaps on my Dragon P-51 fall off all the time. Yes, off, not "doop down". Laying in a pile under the plane. I've tried all the common fixes (nail polish or super glue in the hinges) and still haven't been able to get them to stay.

And the landing gear is very fiddly--you can get it to stay in place and support the weight, but you'll never get it "locked" into position, where you can say "this is perfectly aligned and is the intended angle". You just press it in hard at whatever angle you think both looks right and that it'll hold without collapsing.
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The flaps on my Dragon P-51 fall off all the time. Yes, off, not "doop down". Laying in a pile under the plane. I've tried all the common fixes (nail polish or super glue in the hinges) and still haven't been able to get them to stay.

And the landing gear is very fiddly--you can get it to stay in place and support the weight, but you'll never get it "locked" into position, where you can say "this is perfectly aligned and is the intended angle". You just press it in hard at whatever angle you think both looks right and that it'll hold without collapsing.
Exactly. I believe the it may have been a mistake for me to order one of the Dragon P-51s "Glamourous Glennis". Seems the QC issues are rather terrible for these P-51s. I talked with another collector in my home city who has a bunch of them. He owns 4 of em' and all of them Dragon P-51s have faulty wing flaps that fall off at the slightest touch. I thnk I may just stick with Corgi Mustangs for now. At least those are solidly built and have more consistent quality control.
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Exactly. I believe the it may have been a mistake for me to order one of the Dragon P-51s "Glamourous Glennis"....
Not all models are built the same...just because of a few bad examples discussed here...doesn't mean they are all like that...
Mine for example does not have any of these QC issues...
Have faith and trust...yours may be a great one!
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