Try [email protected]. Just did my annual jumpseat ORD-SFO-ORD on a 747-400 both ways, upgaged from a 777! A great cockpit for observation! Had a GJS (Gojets) 12 year old captain (well, he looked that young!) as our "bunkie" coming off a 4 day trip. We don't get much opportunity to ride the -400 on domestic ops. We spent a great 4 days in SFO (right downtown) with excellent food, wine, and cheer with friends. Sorry to hear the NAL 727's have crap stabs. My first ever airline flight was on NAL DCA-MCO in 1968, in the new Sunking colors. Nevertheless I've waited for years for this model. Cheers, Don.