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Old 07-29-2020, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Welcome to The Aircraft Manufacturers Recommendation Thread. The purpose of this thread is to compile information regarding improvements aircraft manufacturers can implement into their models. By having a master thread such as this one, the producers can reference this thread instead of digging for feedback/complaints throughout the entire forum.

"Bashing" of manufacturers is not the purpose of this thread. I truly believe that hearing out collectors with passion and knowledge can improve model realism and ultimately create a larger and more satisfied market.

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I will begin with the landing gear produced by Gemini/JC Wings.

Once upon a time, the 757 series featured incredible realistic landing gear.





Fast forward a few years, and the quality/detailing has decreased significantly.





Issue: Cheap, bulky and unrealistic landing gear.
Recommendation: Go back to the original landing gears, or innovate from them to include the same wheel well detailing and shading.

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Next up is the A330 and A340-200/300 series. I have always found the landing gear (particularly the nose gear) to be oversized and misrepresented. Compare it with a real photo it's easy to see the problem.






Inflight's gear isn't perfect, but it is much more proportional to the model.


Issue: Nose gear is oversized and bulky.
Recommendation: Landing gear and bay door needs to be reduced in size and be produced in finer detail.

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The 777 series. Used to be ok, then good, then bad again. I'll focus on just the landing gear in this segment.

IMO, this was the most accurate tooling of the 777's ever released. Why they deviated from it is a mystery.





Recent releases...





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Issue: Nose gear is too tall and causes the model to sit upright. Overall landing gear material/detailing is cheap and bulky. Does not match the finer detail of the 777 itself.
Recommendation: Go back to the previous series (as pictured) or improve them from that version.

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Jan I have received 2 complaints from retailers that you are using their pictures unauthorized and I have deleted them. I caution you to use copyrighted photos without permission.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ohh boyy. Jean Pierre might just have a thing or two to post here




Gonna go against the grain here.... Gemini's original 757 gear is OVERRATED , especially the front. I believe it looks like globs of grey plastic, and it just got worse as time went on. To me, it always looked like a Jane Fonda 1980s workout sock.



Suggestion to the producer: do it cleaner, please Define this mechanical piece of art! The main gear debacle around the time of the darker UA battleship was the low point. At least those terribly crooked bogies were due to long gear doors were corrected on future models.



Include a landing configuration of gears and flaps, like you did with the 747 flaps down.


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Excellent idea, Jan! Looking forward to reading your upcoming input. May be I will add some things myself one day. Don‘t know why a retailer could’ve any problems with a collector using his/her stock photo on a discussion forum like this one, in a thread aiming at nothing but constructive criticism. But... so what.
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Excellent idea, Jan! Looking forward to reading your upcoming input. May be I will add some things myself one day. Don‘t know why a retailer could’ve any problems with a collector using his/her stock photo on a discussion forum like this one, in a thread aiming at nothing but constructive criticism. But... so what.
I’m not sure either but it was requested ..Both retailers had their name in the photo ..
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I’m not sure either but it was requested ..Both retailers had their name in the photo ..
Good promotion for their name and retail shop too... but, it's their decision.

Concerning the Gemini 757, I do have a general question: did Gemini just revise the landing gear or did they manufacture a completely new mould (for what reason ever)?
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Good promotion for their name and retail shop too... but, it's their decision.

Concerning the Gemini 757, I do have a general question: did Gemini just revise the landing gear or did they manufacture a completely new mould (for what reason ever)?
I agree on the comment about why a retailer would want their picture removed it is free advertising. Maybe they don't support the topic at hand..

As for the 757 mould it has been tweeked over the years slightly. Yes the gears have always been an issue from day one. The original nose gear was very complex fragile and weak, and was subject to damage and or breaking during installation, in addition the small sponge insulator would wear away and the nose gear would be lose and fall out. As Jan mentions the gear was modified and doing so it became less detailed however much more durable in the long run.
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I’ve had that little translucent orange cube fall off! What’s funny, is all my old 757 gear breakdowns are on the main gear. Talk about fragile..

Just to be clear, I’ll buy a Gemini or JCW 757 in a heartbeat as long as it fits my criteria. So gear critics.... ehhh, more like nitpicking on my end.
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Thank you Jan, for creating this thread. Excellent idea. I starting collecting intensively not long time ago so I don't have the knowledge to participate yet. But maybe one day... In the meantime, the info really helps me. And hopefully it can benefit to everyone.
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Here is an example of the major problem with the 767... The 767-200 shape issue has been mentioned for years, yet have a look at that nose.








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Here is an example of the major problem with the 767... The 767-200 shape issue has been mentioned for years, yet have a look at that nose.
Another bad example of a Boeing B767 nose shape...This is a JC Wings release (LH2014)
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What the hell this nose is? Is it the JC new release in 1/200 scale? Damn I have ordered it...
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What the hell this nose is? Is it the JC new release in 1/200 scale? Damn I have ordered it...
The AC 762 was released back in 2017...unfortunately very poorly done...
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