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I wonder if they'll carry out swift justice onboard for anyone not obeying the rules. I'm sorry , but this is beyond crazy.

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I guess the women passengers are not allowed to wear makeup or show their ankles to board the plane? Can't wait to see this so-called 'decent uniform' for non-muslims.

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So if I help myself to an extra bag of peanuts, does this mean off with my hand?
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So if I help myself to an extra bag of peanuts, does this mean off with my hand?
That depends on the discretion of the captain. It's either your 'hand' or your 'head'. If it was the last bag of peanuts and the captain had not yet received his bag of peanuts = definitely your head!
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interesting that such a nation has chosen to be sharia law compliant when none of the arab nations has. i guess it poses a dilemma for moslems to fly on non-sharia compliant airlines, eh?
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That depends on the discretion of the captain. It's either your 'hand' or your 'head'. If it was the last bag of peanuts and the captain had not yet received his bag of peanuts = definitely your head!
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On a lighter note ,kudos to the airline for going with a nice cheatline.
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Iran Air operates like this already, doesn't it? And isn't El Al run according to religious edicts too? All the Egyptair flights I've ever taken, have had pre flight prayers played over the PA.
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I want to know if they provide prayer rugs for the passengers, separate sections for the women to pray, if everyone takes their shoes off before boarding and if the airliner has to turn toward Mecca every so often.
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So if I help myself to an extra bag of peanuts, does this mean off with my hand?
And you cannot take the what to do in an emergency card on the back of the seat as I known some here on this forum do.
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So if I help myself to an extra bag of peanuts, does this mean off with my hand?
And you cannot take the what to do in an emergency card on the back of the seat as I known some here on this forum do.
There is a push in Indonesia from some in politics to do the same with Grauda, as it's a cash cow for western dollars the proposal is being resisted, except for flights to Saudi
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And you cannot take the what to do in an emergency card on the back of the seat as I known some here on this forum do.
And i've been known to take a Safety Card or two myself! I would be nothing but a torso and a head by now!
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And you cannot take the what to do in an emergency card on the back of the seat as I known some here on this forum do.
That is considered theft. By sharia law, that means a body part must be severed or by extreme luck....only a helluva whipping.

Intelligence and Humanity is failing on this planet. To even allow such a thing to be airborne is ridiculous.
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Seems weird that in the 21st century, we still share a planet with these sort of people as well as the likes of the North Koreans some people are just stuck in another time. It's a shame we are not at an age where we could build supermassive starships and terraform planets, we could then leave the earth to these luddite types
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Seems weird that in the 21st century, we still share a planet with these sort of people as well as the likes of the North Koreans some people are just stuck in another time. It's a shame we are not at an age where we could build supermassive starships and terraform planets, we could then leave the earth to these luddite types
You are wrong, the way western politics and the corporate world is going into the future, it will eventually model itself on the North Korean system.
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You are wrong, the way western politics and the corporate world is going into the future, it will eventually model itself on the North Korean system.
Unfortunately, you may be near the mark on that. The Haves and the Have-Nots will make up the New World Order...and there will be far more Have-Nots than there are now.
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Seems weird that in the 21st century, we still share a planet with these sort of people as well as the likes of the North Koreans some people are just stuck in another time. It's a shame we are not at an age where we could build supermassive starships and terraform planets, we could then leave the earth to these luddite types
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Some stock exchange listed companies copy the happy clappy and love of their leader approach of North Korea for their staff, Apple, Facebook etc etc.
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Great, yet another excuse found to criticize even when there isn't really anything there to criticize. I mean comments like 'carry out swift justice on board'.......seriously where do you come up with these things?? Its like just look for any excuse or ammunition to use. It may come as quite a shock to know that this airline was founded by non other than an ethnic Hindu couple:

Ethnic Indian couple launches Malaysia?s 1st Islamic airline - The Hindu

Furthermore, the fact that they do not serve alcohol or meals containing pork and the crew have to keep their heads covered does not make this airline any different from the likes of Saudia, Iran Air or Royal Brunei.

And meanwhile in other news (which is obviously and conveniently ignored by everyone including the mainstream media):

Montreal man charged with inciting hatred after anti-Muslim video emerges - Montreal - CBC News

Eric Freight gets 8 years for trying to kill Muslims with X-rays - CBS News

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Seasons Greetings, Moin!

I really think that the word 'Sharia' is automatically connected to 'Sharia Law' or 'Sharia Compliant'; which really does not sit well with the Non-Muslim/Western parts of the world. Due, to it's very strict and harsh actions that are handed out to people when they don't comply with Sharia Law.

Please correct me if I am mistaken on how it's perceived by the overwhelming majority of Non-Muslims.

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Sharia Law and it's impact on the following aspects of people's lives:

- Being compatible with democracy
- Human Rights
- Freedom of Speech
- Freedom of thought, conscience and religion
- Women's Rights
- Domestic Violence
- Personal status laws and child marriage
- LGBT Rights

Let's just say that the above are not 'welcomed/compatible' within Sharia Law from a 'Western/Non-Muslim' perspective.

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The only country where there might be any semblance of Sharia Law is Saudi Arabia and everyone knows how the world sees that country. Now Brunei seems to be following suit as well. If it were that 'acceptable' every Muslim country would have implemented it by their Govt or an act of parliament, not just now, but ever since the inception of that country. You don't just decide overnight (like Brunei) oh lets implement SL. You either have it from the start or you don't. You have 2 Muslim countries out of the entire lot where its implemented, that in itself should indicate how attractive it looks to them.

As for this airline, there is nothing different about its product, appearance and services that distinguish it from Saudia (an airline steeped in internal and administrative corruption which is kept well under wraps), Iran Air or Royal Brunei. Sudan Airways may be the same but I'm not sure. The women's hair may be covered up yet they still employ women who show their faces, wear makeup, nail polish and somewhat figure hugging pant suits. If this were a SC airline in the strictest (and I mean strictest and most extreme) sense of the word, there would 1. be no women employed at all, 2. if women were employed their faces would be completely covered with only their eyes showing and wearing gloves and 3. they'd be dressed in shuttlecocks, not those pant suits.

If that Hindu couple hadn't come up with the idea, it probably would never have been conceived or even thought of but seeing that it has, coming up with comments such as 'carrying out swift justice on board' or 'losing a hand if a bread roll is pinched' is downright immature and denotes a stereotyped tunnel vision which has been indoctrinated into one's mind to solely find fault and cause to criticize even when no harm is being done to anyone. If they're happy thinking their new airline is SC, then let them do it. Its not effecting me or anyone else in any way and if certain conservative passengers enjoy it too, let them do so, but playing judge, jury and executioner and surmising punishments and executions on board an airline 'as part of its services' is just downright ludicrous. Of course if it was meant as a joke then that's another matter.

As for KU suspending its JFK-LHR route, the reasoning behind that is solely political not religious. There is a distinction.



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If that Hindu couple hadn't come up with the idea, it probably would never have been conceived or even thought of but seeing that it has, coming up with comments such as 'carrying out swift justice on board' or 'losing a hand if a bread roll is pinched' is downright immature and denotes a stereotyped tunnel vision which has been indoctrinated into one's mind to solely find fault and cause to criticize even when no harm is being done to anyone. If they're happy thinking their new airline is SC, then let them do it. Its not effecting me or anyone else in any way and if certain conservative passengers enjoy it too, let them do so, but playing judge, jury and executioner and surmising punishments and executions on board an airline 'as part of its services' is just downright ludicrous. Of course if it was meant as a joke then that's another matter.

As for KU suspending its JFK-LHR route, the reasoning behind that is solely political not religious. There is a distinction.
Finally some sense and lack of bigotry on this forum. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Yep. We all have a choice in flying. I personally would never support an airline that 'supports' Sharia Law/Compliance. I also think Sharia Law has no place in the Western World or be 'imposed' on non-muslims when they have to fly on that airline as a last resort.

I have no shame in making this statement! Seasons Greetings! Also, would not support an airline that discriminates passengers based on their 'Political' passports. Never knew they handed out 'political' passports to people, always understood that your 'country' of citizenship was the entity that issued passports.

Good day, sir. It is my understanding you would like a 'political' passport; your choices are the following:

1. Liberal (comes in RED)
2. Progressive Conservative (comes in BLUE)
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Yep. We all have a choice in flying. I personally would never support an airline that 'supports' Sharia Law/Compliance. I also think Sharia Law has no place in the Western World or be 'imposed' on non-muslims when they have to fly on that airline as a last resort.

I have no shame in making this statement! Seasons Greetings! Also, would not support an airline that discriminates passengers based on their 'Political' passports. Never knew they handed out 'political' passports to people, always understood that your 'country' of citizenship was the entity that issued passports.
totally agree. it's our choice. always
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Finally some sense and lack of bigotry on this forum. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
All of us? I resent that, another sweeping generalisation. Some on here are getting very good at that.
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The only country where there might be any semblance of Sharia Law is Saudi Arabia and everyone knows how the world sees that country. Now Brunei seems to be following suit as well.
Seasons Greetings! Moin! Chalk up another country that has let Sharia Law take hold.

Looks like a certain part of Indonesia (Aceh province) has implemented Sharia Law as well.

Woman and Man Brutally Caned in Public in Indonesia For Crime of Affectionate Contact

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Seasons Greetings! Moin! Chalk up another country that has let Sharia Law take hold.

Looks like a certain part of Indonesia (Aceh province) has implemented Sharia Law as well.

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Yes...and in Africa Christian ministers still burn witches at the stake, gays are also persecuted, imprisoned, and even murdered. In Srebenica Bosnia 5000 Muslims were massacred by Serb orthodox Christians for just living there. Hindus have basically legalized public gang-rape in India (technically its illegal but rarely prosecuted) and even marrying above/below your caste in certain communities can carry a death sentence. Palestinians (Christians and Muslims alike) in the Occupied Territories are treated as second class citizens by the Orthodox Jewish community and the IDF who protects them.

You really think acting like a barbarian is solely a muslim thing?

Don't get into a religious/cultural pissing contest, whatever your religion/cultural is, trust me your s**t stinks just as bad.

BTW...Why do you all really care? Its a private local airline, if you don't like how its run, don't fly with them. I certainly won't be.

Personally I don't have any problem with Sharia law AS LONG AS ITS NOT FORCIBLE IMPOSED ON THE UNWILLING. Which is not the case here, as nobody is forcing anyone to fly with this airline. Therefore they are free to run their airline as they want.

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Yes...and in Africa Christian ministers still burn witches at the stake, gays are also persecuted, imprisoned, and even murdered. In Srebenica Bosnia 5000 Muslims were massacred by Serb orthodox Christians for just living there. Hindus have basically legalized public gang-rape in India (technically its illegal but rarely prosecuted) and even marrying above/below your caste in certain communities can carry a death sentence. Palestinians (Christians and Muslims alike) in the Occupied Territories are treated as second class citizens by the Orthodox Jewish community and the IDF who protects them.

You really think acting like a barbarian is solely a muslim thing?

Don't get into a religious/cultural pissing contest, whatever your religion/cultural is, trust me your s**t stinks just as bad.

BTW...Why do you all really care? Its a private local airline, if you don't like how its run, don't fly with them. I certainly won't be.

Personally I don't have any problem with Sharia law AS LONG AS ITS NOT FORCIBLE IMPOSED ON THE UNWILLING. Which is not the case here, as nobody is forcing anyone to fly with this airline. Therefore they are free to run their airline as they want.
Yeah, my particular religion is a just bit more tolerant when it concerns human beings acting decently and not harming anyone in public.

Glad you are onboard with Sharia Law, no pun intended! Happy New Year! T7
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Yeah, my particular religion is a just bit more tolerant when it concerns human beings acting decently and not harming anyone in public.

Glad you are on-board with Sharia Law, no pun intended! Happy New Year! T7
I assume that's Christianity? Did you even read what I wrote about witch burnings, terrorist attacks in Northern Ireland, and genocide in the Balkans? Yeah such a harmless peaceful religion my mistake!

Lets be honest here: You are a bigot.

I am not on board with Sharia or any religion, they all suck. I am on board with the last of George Carlin's 3 Commandment's:

"Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself".

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I assume thats Chrisitianity? Would you like a history lesson on Christian "Tolerence"? You could fill an ocean with the blood your so called "tolerant" religion that respects human beings has split over the centuries.

You are a bigot, and its obvious.

I am not on board with Sharia or any religion, I am on board with the 3rd of George Carlin's 3 Commandment's:

"Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself".
I am a big fan of the late great Mr. Carlin and my fav is baseball vs football.

Yep, I am the biggest bigot on the DAC since I joined.

When you state you have no problems with Sharia Law = that means you condone it = you support it. You did state = I personally have no problem with it.

But you attempted an out for yourself = NOT imposed on the unwilling. Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Please, get your head/mind into the present day = 2016 in 2 days. It seems some religions have evolved for the better IMO. However, Sharia Law is something that belongs back in the 'Stone Age' not 2016 and beyond.

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I am a big fan of the late great Mr. Carlin and my fav is baseball vs football.

Yep, I am the biggest bigot on the DAC since I joined.

When you state you have no problems with Sharia Law = that means you condone it = you support it. You did state = I personally have no problem with it.

Please, get your head/mind into the present day = 2016 in 2 days. It seems some religions have evolved for the better IMO. However, Sharia Law is something that belongs back in the 'Stone Age' not 2016.
Condone does not mean support. It means to tolerate or allow. I tolerate it on the unique condition that "ITS NOT IMPOSED ON THE UNWILLING". The problem I have with Sharia (and any religious law) is when people start to force it on others, and I got news for you: Christianity is no better. Go look at the war in Bosnia that was present day too, Northern Ireland as well. If you are just picking a single year to prove your point then that's simply selective history and I can do the same.

If you read the article, it says the airline is offering a service that caters to those that fellow Sharia, but that it not imposing Sharia on non-muslims. The fact you can't order a ham and cheese sandwich or the flight attendants is wearing a Niqab is not an imposition. Moreover, its hardly the only airline in Malaysia. People are free to fly another airline. Your outrage is groundless, and based only on bigotry (but don't worry you are hardly the only one here doing that).

If people want to fellow Sharia on their own without imposing it on others then its none of your or my business. Most people who follow Sharia are NOT terrorists. The same goes with YOUR Religion as well. if you think Sharia belongs in the Stone Age, then by your logic Catholic Doctrine should be banned too because of the IRA.

As I stated, my view is simply that everyone should just mind their own affairs, especially when it concerns religion.

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Greetings, mmarsh

I have to run around today for some errands (put my winter tires on my Imperial Star Destroyer; ship off some models I sold and some stuff for my kids). So I'll be MIA for a few hours today after this post.

It's a free world aka democracy where I live and we can 'freely' make posts/create threads on the DAC where others can join in and express their thoughts, humor, beliefs, etc.

If you take exception to other DACers posts, you are welcome to post your opinions and I respect that. However, don't come down as GOD/ALLAH 'everyone should just mind their own affairs, especially when it's none of their business' on others on this thread.

Lordy, that's the point/objective of a forum = to exchange thoughts/humor/beliefs on matters that DAC members bring up. There are no 'rights' or 'wrongs' IMO.

Unfortunately, Sharia Law has been rearing it's head in North America (USA and CANADA) and has already done so in Europe. This religion just cannot exist within a Secular Democracy/Law which Western Civilizations abide to.

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Greetings, mmarsh

I have to run around today for some errands (put my winter tires on my Imperial Star Destroyer; ship off some models I sold and some stuff for my kids). So I'll be MIA for a few hours today after this post.

It's a free world aka democracy where I live and we can 'freely' make posts/create threads on the DAC where others can join in and express their thoughts, humor, beliefs, etc.

If you take exception to other DACers posts, you are welcome to post your opinions and I respect that. However, don't come down as GOD/ALLAH 'everyone should just mind their own affairs, especially when it's none of their business' on others on this thread.

Lordy, that's the point/objective of a forum = to exchange thoughts/humor/beliefs on matters that DAC members bring up. There are no 'rights' or 'wrongs' IMO.

Unfortunately, Sharia Law has been rearing it's head in North America (USA and CANADA) and has already done so in Europe. This religion just cannot exist within a Secular Democracy/Law which Western Civilizations abide to.

Cheers! T7 (TBBoDAC)
Of course, but I am not required to agree with those opinions am I? Part of my opinion is to tell you I think your opinion is wrong.

Why not? As Carlin Stated, I think the world would be a MUCH better place if people minded their own business especially about how others view GOD/Allah. You'd probably eliminate about 70% of all wars in the world by just doing just that. Personally, I think its a fantastic idea.

Do you know how many Islamic Extremists there are in the world, my rough estimate is about 100,000 and its probably a lot less. There are over 1 Billion Muslims in the world. Admittedly, math isn't my strong suite but off the top of my head that's like 1/10 of 1%.

So for that you are going to condemn over a billion people because of a very, very, small group of nutcases?

3 weeks ago a (likely) Christian nutcase killed 3 people in a Planned Parenthood office. Shall we blame Christians for that? Its the same logic, only the scale of the carnage is different.

Again, the fact that people practice Sharia in US/Canada/Europe doesn't mean they are terrorist or incompatible with us. If people want to live in the 13th Century and don't try and impose it on others, then i have no problem with it. The US constitution is very explicit on that, people are free to worship as they choose as long as they do not violate the rights of others. PERIOD.

The people we need to watch for are those who think their religion entitles them to use violence to push their religious view, like what happened in Paris. That's a very different kettle of fish. I have no tolerance for that, these people need to be exterminated.

Otherwise, Live and let live.

Enjoy the STAR WARS! (I certainly did).

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The people we need to watch for are those who think their religion entitles them to use violence to push their religious view, like what happened in Paris. That's a very different kettle of fish. I have no tolerance for that, these people need to be exterminated.
I tend to agree, however to coin a phrase, therein lies the rub.

The problem is many of the so-called "moderates" and "progressives" are flying "just under the radar" on this, and while they may not be ready to use violence to achieve their goals just yet, neither are they opposed to it in the long run, and I'm not just talking about this being aimed at Christians alone, but Jews and a host of others as well.
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[takes a deep breath and jumps in]

...and retaliatory attacks against sikhs just goes to show how shallow some people are...

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