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Palmyra's Baalshamin temple 'blown up by IS' - BBC News

I cannot understand why the world's only superpower, USA, doesn't nuke these ****ing stone aged cavemen. Just see what they have done to Palmyra.

In fact, Israel has the military might and the perfect geographical location to destroy these Islamic lunatics.

Yet, USA and Israel are such cowards. Why?

If ISIS and radical Islam is not destroyed now, believe me there will be a bearded madman residing in the White House and the world will be run by these cavemen.
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another example of the deluded world of ISIS... the animals need putting down for good... its going to continue getting worse and worse and little will be done about it... it appears that there is no reasoning with ISIS so they need exterminating...
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Another barbaric act for sure. Could the rise of IS/ISIL/ISIS be the result of what to me looks like the declining influence of the western powers in the region? I'm not saying that, that's what it is, it's just a thought. Could this also be playing a large part of what seems, on the surface at least, to be a 'softly, softly' approach to dealing with ISIS?
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All these brave young men that fought and died to liberate Europe from the evil of Nazi Facism.

60 years later we already forgot how we got this freedom.

People of Europe need to rise to Arms ones more.

This time your EU loving government is your enemy.
They keep the floodgates open to fullfill their multi culti dream.

Next we need to close all borders and actually start kicking people out iso letting them in.
We need to change the law on Freedom of religion in order to safe gaurd any religion can root itself in politics.

Also no more double passports , you choose or you leave.
A complete ban on import marriages or family reunion from country of origin.

No acces to social securities till 10 years of active labor history.

It is not difficult at all.
But we are beeing ruled by EU utopians.

The EU is going to lead us to widespread civil war.
It was put upon us in a non democratic mannor.

We never got to vote on it, and a referendum were 65% of the people voted against EU law was stepped right over without even a twitch.

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I cannot understand why the world's only superpower, USA, doesn't nuke these ****ing stone aged cavemen. Just see what they have done to Palmyra.

In fact, Israel has the military might and the perfect geographical location to destroy these Islamic lunatics.

Yet, USA and Israel are such cowards. Why?

If ISIS and radical Islam is not destroyed now, believe me there will be a bearded madman residing in the White House and the world will be run by these cavemen.
Maybe if we get a president such as Donald Trump, then nuking ISIS may in fact become a reality, it seems he even has a plan on how to defeat them...

And I would never ever call Israel a coward because they just don't wanna get involved is my first guess, perhaps they take a defensive stance & only attack if the get provoked, you must also understand where Israel is coming from, they don't have a very good relationship with their neighbors and to attack ISIS might be seen by other arab nations as an attack on Islam itself (and not ISIS) by a Jewish state they already hate...
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Maybe if we get a president such as Donald Trump, then nuking ISIS may in fact become a reality, it seems he even has a plan on how to defeat them...
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I cannot understand why the world's only superpower, USA, doesn't nuke these ****ing stone aged cavemen. Just see what they have done to Palmyra.

In fact, Israel has the military might and the perfect geographical location to destroy these Islamic lunatics.

Yet, USA and Israel are such cowards. Why?

If ISIS and radical Islam is not destroyed now, believe me there will be a bearded madman residing in the White House and the world will be run by these cavemen.
Interesting that polls in the U.S. show people disapprove of Obama's handling of ISIS, yet polls also show few people want us to send in troops. In addition, the U.S. and most western nations are in such financial trouble that it would be difficult to afford another war (then again that never stopped us before!).

There are too many unanswered questions about how to defeat these animals. Who really supports them? What can be done to truly eliminate them, knowing the ideology attracts young people all over the globe? What happens in Syria if we throw out Assad? Clearly western powers are clueless about how to manage countries after we throw out previous dictators. The list goes on and on... And IMO that's why no one really takes it to these barbarians. No one really knows what to do. The middle eastern countries most effected by this should be spending the money to defeat them, but they choose not to. Why? What is it we don't know... There are numerous hidden agendas going on related to ISIS, the middle east, etc... As usual, follow the money... I'm sure that's part of the hidden agenda... It always is.
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It a mystery to me why they are allowed in at any port of entry. None of them have any paperwork. I'm a Brit lived here all my life, born and bred. Have you guys heard of the Schengen Agreement? Its the lunatic idea of free access across all European borders. UK did not sign up for it so we have show passports if we directly land in France or Germany from the UK. That's right ! Unbelievable. And we are EEC members paying a fortune each year to Europe. Yet these boat people can arrive in Europe without even a cigarette packet, be allowed to march up through France to Calais and make trouble. I think the French should give them a whipping like soccer hooligans get in Spain. The world has gone friggin' mad. Google up Enoch Powell speech Rivers of Blood. He was a man with great insight.
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It a mystery to me why they are allowed in at any port of entry. None of them have any paperwork. I'm a Brit lived here all my life, born and bred. Have you guys heard of the Schengen Agreement? Its the lunatic idea of free access across all European borders. UK did not sign up for it so we have show passports if we directly land in France or Germany from the UK. That's right ! Unbelievable. And we are EEC members paying a fortune each year to Europe. Yet these boat people can arrive in Europe without even a cigarette packet, be allowed to march up through France to Calais and make trouble. I think the French should give them a whipping like soccer hooligans get in Spain. The world has gone friggin' mad. Google up Enoch Powell speech Rivers of Blood. He was a man with great insight.
YES, the world has gone friggin' mad on many, many levels. You really have to wonder how much of the madness is controllable and how much is taking on its own steam.

I truly fear for my children and what we're leaving them. Unchecked population growth, horrific income inequality, dwindling resources, and a massive assault on the planet itself. Nature has a way of self-correcting... It's coming one way or another - it always does. Of course the great equalizer is some massive event such as a super volcano, coronal mass ejection, gamma ray burst, etc. So much for human "ingenuity" if one of those happens. There are theories that very few super intelligent civilizations are in the universe since it's so hard for creatures to get past technology, greed, and violence. I wish one of those civilizations that did get through it would show up here quickly and give us a hand! We need it - badly!
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I cannot understand why the world's only superpower, USA, doesn't nuke these ****ing stone aged cavemen. Just see what they have done to Palmyra.

In fact, Israel has the military might and the perfect geographical location to destroy these Islamic lunatics.

Yet, USA and Israel are such cowards. Why?

If ISIS and radical Islam is not destroyed now, believe me there will be a bearded madman residing in the White House and the world will be run by these cavemen.
Israel? What does Israel have to do with it? Don't you know any better? If Israel would attack Isis it would be seen as a non-proportionate attack. If Israel would attack Isis and kill innocent civilians as well the World would condemn Israel without a doubt. If Israel would attack Isis on another Arab country's soil, surely you'll see the U.N. and worldwide demonstrations against Israeli aggression. Surely you know better than that.
And as Surinam said, Israel will only fight in a defensive situation and when provoked.

BTW, The White House already has a madman residing there.
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Israel? What does Israel have to do with it? Don't you know any better? If Israel would attack Isis it would be seen as a non-proportionate attack. If Israel would attack Isis and kill innocent civilians as well the World would condemn Israel without a doubt. If Israel would attack Isis on another Arab country's soil, surely you'll see the U.N. and worldwide demonstrations against Israeli aggression. Surely you know better than that.
And as Surinam said, Israel will only fight in a defensive situation and when provoked.

BTW, The White House already has a madman residing there.
Israel's mere existence provides enough fuel for the fire to all the crazies out there, let alone them becoming actively involved in the fight against ISIS. I'm sure behind the scenes they are providing help to others in the region, despite their claims to the contrary. Although I think it's a safe bet that help does NOT extend to Hezbollah - another group of crazies that are no better than ISIS. Speaking of crazies, it's tough to get updates on the "not so secret" talks between Israel and Hamas... The tanking financial markets are ruling the day. There's another group of terrorists - the traders that control world markets. short-term gains trump long term planning all day long. The financialization of the world so a few very rich people can dictate how everyone else's life works out. Crazy!

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It a mystery to me why they are allowed in at any port of entry. None of them have any paperwork. I'm a Brit lived here all my life, born and bred. Have you guys heard of the Schengen Agreement? Its the lunatic idea of free access across all European borders. UK did not sign up for it so we have show passports if we directly land in France or Germany from the UK. That's right ! Unbelievable. And we are EEC members paying a fortune each year to Europe. Yet these boat people can arrive in Europe without even a cigarette packet, be allowed to march up through France to Calais and make trouble. I think the French should give them a whipping like soccer hooligans get in Spain. The world has gone friggin' mad. Google up Enoch Powell speech Rivers of Blood. He was a man with great insight.
I highlighted the Schengen Agreement a couple of days ago on the thread relating to the terrorist attack on the French train. The Schengen Agreement is bad news, and it's coming back to haunt the leaderships of those governments who were daft enough to have signed it. The trouble is, the damage has already been done, and indeed continues to be done. The UK is fortunate in that it never signed up for it, but the fact that other governments have done so, is making it more difficult for all the non signatories to maintain effective border controls, and I can't see that changing anytime soon, and that's a damn shame.
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Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it.

This whole Middle East mess started with the end of World War One, when the allies split up the Ottoman Empire, cutting up the arab areas into countries that split up century old tribes and sects. The allies put in place dictators with grand titles who kept power by brutal force. We may not remember what damage this did to Arabia, but the people do and hate the West for it to this day.

The Gulf War and invasion of Iraq not only removed one of these dictators but Westerners could not impose a government between three factions that hate one another. The minority Sunnies were displaced by people they had brutalized for decades. The Bathists were the military power and were now out of work and now compose the military expertise of I.S.I.S.

If the West went in with ground troops, it would be Vietnam all over again, killing and wounding innocents in larger numbers than the guilty. If we, "nuke" I.S.I.S., we will only give them millions of more followers all over the world because of the slaughter of innocents.

The mess in the Middle East will have to be resolved by the people of the area themselves. As to the refugees some plan must be made to return them to the Middle East, and I have no clue how that can be done other than setting up camps in Northern Iraq and Syria and let the people govern themselves there or return to their homes and fight I.S.I.S. I believe Europe and anywhere else will have to strictly refuse entry of these refugees into their countries, but that is their decisions to make.
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Israel? What does Israel have to do with it? Don't you know any better? If Israel would attack Isis it would be seen as a non-proportionate attack. If Israel would attack Isis and kill innocent civilians as well the World would condemn Israel without a doubt. If Israel would attack Isis on another Arab country's soil, surely you'll see the U.N. and worldwide demonstrations against Israeli aggression. Surely you know better than that.
And as Surinam said, Israel will only fight in a defensive situation and when provoked.

BTW, The White House already has a madman residing there.
You forgot to mention the "crimes against humanity" Israel would be charged with for taking action against the worst mankind has yet to offer!!

As for that madman occupying the White House, his removal can't come soon enough!!
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You forgot to mention the "crimes against humanity" Israel would be charged with for taking action against the worst mankind has yet to offer!!

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Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it.

This whole Middle East mess started with the end of World War One, when the allies split up the Ottoman Empire, cutting up the arab areas into countries that split up century old tribes and sects. The allies put in place dictators with grand titles who kept power by brutal force. We may not remember what damage this did to Arabia, but the people do and hate the West for it to this day.

The Gulf War and invasion of Iraq not only removed one of these dictators but Westerners could not impose a government between three factions that hate one another. The minority Sunnies were displaced by people they had brutalized for decades. The Bathists were the military power and were now out of work and now compose the military expertise of I.S.I.S.

If the West went in with ground troops, it would be Vietnam all over again, killing and wounding innocents in larger numbers than the guilty. If we, "nuke" I.S.I.S., we will only give them millions of more followers all over the world because of the slaughter of innocents.

The mess in the Middle East will have to be resolved by the people of the area themselves. As to the refugees some plan must be made to return them to the Middle East, and I have no clue how that can be done other than setting up camps in Northern Iraq and Syria and let the people govern themselves there or return to their homes and fight I.S.I.S. I believe Europe and anywhere else will have to strictly refuse entry of these refugees into their countries, but that is their decisions to make.
There's little political desire to do the right thing in Europe or North America. It's one thing to immigrate elsewhere for a better life, but this mass exodus of the middle east will do nothing to help the EU. It WILL ultimately cause a lot of trouble for them, as it is already starting to do. The entire region of the middle east has the potential to be the end of humanity if we're not careful. Take away the oil and those bastards would have NOTHING.
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Lets not forget who got us in this mess.
(If i write US i also meant EU , to me they are one.)
The US wanted Assad removed.
So the US did what the US always does...Stirr up the hornets Nest by supporting small group of rebels against Assad.

Isis took advantage of the power vacuum that formed right after the rebel uprise.
Again a serious miss calculation by the Obama admin.

Russias government warned the world that exactly this would happend if the US tried to topple Assad. But offcourse the west was quick to point out Russia's good relationship with Syria.

It is unfortunate that the USA is a bit to far for all this refugees to sail too.
But maybe we Europeans should fill up cruise ships and send them to the US?
A bit fair wouldnt you say to divide the fugees over both our continents?

Oooh now you have your own migratory problems at the southern borders right?

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Lets not forget who got us in this mess.
(If i write US i also meant EU , to me they are one.)
The US wanted Assad removed.
So the US did what the US always does...Stirr up the hornets Nest by supporting small group of rebels against Assad.

Isis took advantage of the power vacuum that formed right after the rebel uprise.
Again a serious miss calculation by the Obama admin.

Russias government warned the world that exactly this would happend if the US tried to topple Assad. But offcourse the west was quick to point out Russia's good relationship with Syria.

It is unfortunate that the USA is a bit to far for all this refugees to sail too.
But maybe we Europeans should fill up cruise ships and send them to the US?
A bit fair wouldnt you say to divide the fugees over both our continents?

Oooh now you have your own migratory problems at the southern borders right?
Not quite sure I'd cast the Russians in any positive way. They are not any better than the US/EU in terms of getting involved in things that stir up the hornet's nest.
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US and Israel cowards? Nope...I don't think so.
I think the real cowards are these so called allies like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. Why does the same countries have to invade and disable this extremist groups? I would love to see Pakistan blow these radicals straight to hell but that's wishful thinking. Not to mention those lazy Saudis who just sit there and enjoy there wealth thinking everything is ok
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The sooner we can develop a cheap electric powered car (not far off that either), the sooner we can forget the Saudi's the Iraqi's the Iranians and so forth. Their oil money won't last forever.
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I think the real cowards are these so called allies like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. Why does the same countries have to invade and disable this extremist groups? I would love to see Pakistan blow these radicals straight to hell but that's wishful thinking. Not to mention those lazy Saudis who just sit there and enjoy there wealth thinking everything is ok
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The USA are not cowards. Our President is the coward. Our U.S. Military, could easily wipe ISIS off the map, and the people of the USA would support it. But we have a commander and chief with no balls.
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However not long now till Donald Trump is heading up USA politics. I'm sure he'll nuke all the trouble spots around the world once he becomes President. With the added advantage that global warming will be a thing of the past with a nuclear winter bearing down on us all...
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However not long now till Donald Trump is heading up USA politics. I'm sure he'll nuke all the trouble spots around the world once he becomes President. With the added advantage that global warming will be a thing of the past with a nuclear winter bearing down on us all...
Maybe he'll create a budget for research in to a Koranic virus that only infects the selected DNA structures of hard-line cavemen.......?
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Nuclear bombs are a bit overated.
You only need a few Tactical waheads to clean up most of the worlds mess.
Most likely the enviroment (Global) wont even twitch.

remember we tested about 2119 nukes already ...and we are still walking around.
Of wich 500+ above ground
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It a mystery to me why they are allowed in at any port of entry. None of them have any paperwork. I'm a Brit lived here all my life, born and bred. Have you guys heard of the Schengen Agreement? Its the lunatic idea of free access across all European borders. UK did not sign up for it so we have show passports if we directly land in France or Germany from the UK. That's right ! Unbelievable. And we are EEC members paying a fortune each year to Europe. Yet these boat people can arrive in Europe without even a cigarette packet, be allowed to march up through France to Calais and make trouble. I think the French should give them a whipping like soccer hooligans get in Spain. The world has gone friggin' mad. Google up Enoch Powell speech Rivers of Blood. He was a man with great insight.
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Nuclear bombs are a bit overated.
You only need a few Tactical waheads to clean up most of the worlds mess.
Most likely the enviroment (Global) wont even twitch.

remember we tested about 2119 nukes already ...and we are still walking around.
Of wich 500+ above ground
An interesting point you make. All those tests, and yet the world is not the radioactive wasteland many felt it would become. Partly because they weren't all detonated at the same time, and most were small yield bombs of 10kt or less. Except the Tsar Bomba, that was impressive. The US was far and away the biggest culprit exploding those bombs, and they killed John Wayne.
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